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Made in kr
Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun





Nebraska, USA

Ive noticed the community on dakkadakka is rather small for WMH, since its mainly a 40k site.
However, for some reason it is taking for EVER to add me to the forum roster in privateerpressforums, and its getting irritating not being able to post.
Are there any other big sites for this game?

An ork with an idea tends to end with a bang.

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Houston

Privateer press pretty much eliminated the need for a smattering of forums by hosting their own.

Edit: derp. I don't know man, It usually doesn't take long... Perhaps their was a burp in the system , try registering again?

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Fantasy: 4000 - WoC, 1500 - VC, 1500 - Beastmen
40k: 2000 - White Scars
Hordes: 5/100 - Circle of Orboros
 
   
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While it is definitely true that this is a small section on Dakka it has been growing with the changes GW has been making. It seems a lot of people are picking up Warmachine.

I have a forum account over at Privateer Press but there is not nearly the response you would expect from a forum which is hosted by the company who the game belongs to. I mean I have posted countless lists there and many of my posts either saw no response at all or 1 person responding with a sentence or two.

Not saying it isn't worth it but I see more responses here than I do on that site sometimes. Just strikes me as rather odd.

 
   
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TheMostWize wrote:
While it is definitely true that this is a small section on Dakka it has been growing with the changes GW has been making. It seems a lot of people are picking up Warmachine.

I have a forum account over at Privateer Press but there is not nearly the response you would expect from a forum which is hosted by the company who the game belongs to. I mean I have posted countless lists there and many of my posts either saw no response at all or 1 person responding with a sentence or two.

Not saying it isn't worth it but I see more responses here than I do on that site sometimes. Just strikes me as rather odd.

I've found that people don't tend to find list discussion all that interesting in WM. It's much more common to discuss models and the uses thereof.
   
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BoardroomHero wrote:
TheMostWize wrote:
While it is definitely true that this is a small section on Dakka it has been growing with the changes GW has been making. It seems a lot of people are picking up Warmachine.

I have a forum account over at Privateer Press but there is not nearly the response you would expect from a forum which is hosted by the company who the game belongs to. I mean I have posted countless lists there and many of my posts either saw no response at all or 1 person responding with a sentence or two.

Not saying it isn't worth it but I see more responses here than I do on that site sometimes. Just strikes me as rather odd.

I've found that people don't tend to find list discussion all that interesting in WM. It's much more common to discuss models and the uses thereof.


Yes that is certainly true. Which could pose a problem for new players trying to find help with building lists that will help them learn the game more effectively. Not saying it is a bad place to go just saying don't expect much help in the way of list building.

 
   
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Most, if not all, of the faction fora contain a subsection for lists and the critique thereof. Just go to the specific faction you are interested in and start posting.
   
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Paingiver







Check out the muse on minis forum. It is probably the second-most active wm/h forum right now. It is slanted toward more established players but I haven't seen anything to indicate hostility or neglect towards new players.

   
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TheMostWize wrote:While it is definitely true that this is a small section on Dakka it has been growing with the changes GW has been making. It seems a lot of people are picking up Warmachine.

I have a forum account over at Privateer Press but there is not nearly the response you would expect from a forum which is hosted by the company who the game belongs to. I mean I have posted countless lists there and many of my posts either saw no response at all or 1 person responding with a sentence or two.

Not saying it isn't worth it but I see more responses here than I do on that site sometimes. Just strikes me as rather odd.


TheMostWize wrote:
Yes that is certainly true. Which could pose a problem for new players trying to find help with building lists that will help them learn the game more effectively. Not saying it is a bad place to go just saying don't expect much help in the way of list building.


counter point: its not odd, its merely the nature of warmahordes. that list building mentality is a hangover from 40k. to be honest, its a lot less "your list" and a lot more "how you play", as everything can be built into a viable winning strategy. "lists" wont really help you learn to play, or help you along to wins like the infamous "netlists" that the 40k community has to endure. . thats why folks show very little interest in the lists section. However, post a thread asking about a synnergy between x,y, and z and you'll get a totally different response.

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Deadnight wrote:

counter point: its not odd, its merely the nature of warmahordes. that list building mentality is a hangover from 40k. to be honest, its a lot less "your list" and a lot more "how you play", as everything can be built into a viable winning strategy. "lists" wont really help you learn to play, or help you along to wins like the infamous "netlists" that the 40k community has to endure. . thats why folks show very little interest in the lists section. However, post a thread asking about a synnergy between x,y, and z and you'll get a totally different response.

I'll second this.

Generally, when you put a list together, you just want to make sure that you have all the basic answers to 'questions' your opponent may ask, or have some ability to ask a 'question' yourself. The exact elements in the list are likely to vary a bit from person to person. Probably the best way to get a discussion on lists going is to present a list, present a quick battlereport on its performance, than ask what people think of specific elements and how they're used, along with your thoughts on the matter. At that point, it can be easier to pick out the stronger/weaker elements of what you have, what weaknesses the list as a whole has, and where you might be applying things wrong.
   
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I definitely agree with the fact that Warmachine/Hordes does in fact not have steamroller lists like 40k. There is no doubt about that and because of that I switched games.

I am simply stating that a newer player posting a list I would think would garner some sort of response as to synergy between the models. I mean in all honesty you cannot just grab anything and think you are giving yourself the best chance to win. There are combinations that are essential to making armies work and play to their potential. So while there are no set in stone lists there are still lists that will not if you opponent has any idea what they are doing simply because synergy and support is so important in Warmachine. That was my only point a comment on a list posted by someone can easily lean towards the side of explain synergy or lack thereof between the unit choices. Veteran players will be able to look at a list and say why take units x y and z they do not work well together. You would be better off using x y and z because of a b and c.

Meh. I understand your point and there is definitely truth in the statement. I guess for me I always break down a list when responding to people and tell them what unit choices might not work the best or what other options are viable without them asking specifically if x y and z will work together.

 
   
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TheMostWize wrote:
I definitely agree with the fact that Warmachine/Hordes does in fact not have steamroller lists like 40k. There is no doubt about that and because of that I switched games.

I am simply stating that a newer player posting a list I would think would garner some sort of response as to synergy between the models. I mean in all honesty you cannot just grab anything and think you are giving yourself the best chance to win. There are combinations that are essential to making armies work and play to their potential. So while there are no set in stone lists there are still lists that will not if you opponent has any idea what they are doing simply because synergy and support is so important in Warmachine. That was my only point a comment on a list posted by someone can easily lean towards the side of explain synergy or lack thereof between the unit choices. Veteran players will be able to look at a list and say why take units x y and z they do not work well together. You would be better off using x y and z because of a b and c.

Meh. I understand your point and there is definitely truth in the statement. I guess for me I always break down a list when responding to people and tell them what unit choices might not work the best or what other options are viable without them asking specifically if x y and z will work together.

Oh, I hear ya', and completely agree that it'd be useful for newer players. Unfortunately, the question itself isn't very interesting for people with experience, so it's more likely to get passed over.

I think one of the best ways to go about it would be to pin some threads with 'example' lists, with a point-by-point on why each choice was made.
   
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TheMostWize wrote:
I definitely agree with the fact that Warmachine/Hordes does in fact not have steamroller lists like 40k. There is no doubt about that and because of that I switched games.

I am simply stating that a newer player posting a list I would think would garner some sort of response as to synergy between the models. I mean in all honesty you cannot just grab anything and think you are giving yourself the best chance to win. There are combinations that are essential to making armies work and play to their potential. So while there are no set in stone lists there are still lists that will not if you opponent has any idea what they are doing simply because synergy and support is so important in Warmachine. That was my only point a comment on a list posted by someone can easily lean towards the side of explain synergy or lack thereof between the unit choices. Veteran players will be able to look at a list and say why take units x y and z they do not work well together. You would be better off using x y and z because of a b and c.

Meh. I understand your point and there is definitely truth in the statement. I guess for me I always break down a list when responding to people and tell them what unit choices might not work the best or what other options are viable without them asking specifically if x y and z will work together.


To an extent. I think its more of a different culture than anything else.

noobs get advice, and ask questions frequently. but there are smart ways of doing it. they garner a better response in the main faction forum with a "hi im new and ive just picked up the [faction] starter and some [faction unit]. We're doing a journeyman league here soon - any advice for a budding warnoun? " or "how can i get the best use of of my [faction unut]?" than with a thread with names and silly numbers on it in a subforum going with "warnoun x, warjackbeastnoun x,y,z, unit, unit, solo. comments?" nothing about what you suggest wouldnt get commented on. But like i said, a specific question on tactics will get more of a talk going than a list.

Like i said, and as you concede, there are so many combinations and variables, both on your side of the tavbe, and encounting against his side of the table that simply commenting on a list is pointless. offering specific advice like this is hard. very,very hard, considering all the variables. i dont know what you have, or what youre facing. Whats good advice in one situation is terrible advice isn another. Furthermore, a lot of warmachine/hordes players stay away from the notion of "here is a list that will get you wins" because thats not necessarily how the game works. its not your list, its how you play.

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Nebraska, USA

Ironically i finally got access to ppforums lol.

I am a bit the same way, the list-building mentality lingers over me when i play Hordes. Which is good and bad, bad because if i fail i think "these units suck i need to revamp my list" not "ok i did a huge blunder with this model...oops"
Flipside, its good because i look for synergy between units. I dont just grab 1-2 models that work together and run them, i try to keep the entire army with a playstyle. I imagine at larger games i'd have two instead of one playstyles, but ive only played a couple games so far lol

40k isnt just about the lists either though....but i will admit its a large chunk of it. Not just any idiot can take a tourny list with an easy race (necrons) and win, they need to target prioritize properly. But there are way more games that go like THIS instead of THAT:
THIS: Rock paper scissors. My long-range gunline wrecked your backfield vehicles before they got to do anything just because thats what they do and i didint miss.
THAT: We kept missing attacks that mattered, things that normally shouldnt kill certain units managed to kill them, and i only won because i knew i either took out this/that unit quickly or it was game over regardless.

My last 40k game was a Tau-only anti-marine list....and i went against CSM w/o vehicle spam. Thats a rock-paper-scissors victory lol he stood no chance against my craptons of AP2 weapons. That happens, sadly, more than i'd like to...which is why im getting into WMH

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6000pts Admech/Knights
7500pts Necron Goldboys 
   
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BoardroomHero wrote:


I think one of the best ways to go about it would be to pin some threads with 'example' lists, with a point-by-point on why each choice was made.


Most of the factions have consolidated Tactica stickies at this point with just this kind of information, though not likely to contain entire lists, there are usually a good listing of the units and solos that function well with specific casters. I think some things you just have to figure out by playing, and seeing what your local meta is like though.

   
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Focus and fury and muse on minis are the two alternatives that I know of to the official PP forums.

List discussions are really hit or miss in all of the WM/H forums though. Too often you have to preface any list discussion with "It depends on what you plan to do with it."



   
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I would recommend http://museonminis.com/forums/index.php
Lots of good discussion and lots of the best players tend to frequent that forum.

 
   
 
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