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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 15:23:43
Subject: How far would you go?
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
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If you found the perfect model on ebay, your favorite sculpt, painted beautifully, would be the jewel of your army, how much would you be willing to spend on it?
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angel of ecstasy wrote:
You take a dump, you flip through the Dark Eldar codex, the concept art for Lelith Hesperax shows up and you pee on the floor.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 15:26:04
Subject: How far would you go?
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Beast Lord
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None, I'd buy the boxed model and paint it myself.
Unless of course someone made a gold plated Baneblade
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 15:46:49
Subject: How far would you go?
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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Zero, I dont like having models painted by other people in my armies.
I have no criticism of people that do, as long as they dont misrepresent the work as their own or enter a tournament that has a painting component. I know the latter happens a lot and I consider it to be cheating.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 15:59:09
Subject: How far would you go?
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
Inside of a CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT
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tybg wrote:None, I'd buy the boxed model and paint it myself.
Unless of course someone made a gold plated Baneblade
Pimp my baneblade
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angel of ecstasy wrote:
You take a dump, you flip through the Dark Eldar codex, the concept art for Lelith Hesperax shows up and you pee on the floor.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 16:17:00
Subject: How far would you go?
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Same sentiment, I'd rather build my own/paint my own jewel of my army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 16:57:41
Subject: How far would you go?
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Preacher of the Emperor
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Yep, gotta agree with the others. I'd like my dudettes to really be my dudettes.
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Order of the Righteous Armour - 542 points so far. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 17:04:43
Subject: Re:How far would you go?
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Hellacious Havoc
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No problem against it at most 100 150 for the jewel of my army or cente piece. But i would much rather build and paint something myself
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 17:11:45
Subject: Re:How far would you go?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I never buy pre-sculpted models. I sculpt everything from greenstuff myself. I don't like having models sculpted by someone else in my army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 18:37:23
Subject: How far would you go?
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Rampaging Carnifex
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I only have models sculpted by myself in my army, which I make from clay that I mine personally, using tools made from materials that I have hand-excavated and forged in furnaces constructed from rainbows.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 19:10:11
Subject: Re:How far would you go?
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Douglas Bader
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Probably about 25% of retail value, if I was sure that it hadn't been damaged. Stripping paint adds extra work, so I expect a discount to match.
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There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 20:47:38
Subject: How far would you go?
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Making Stuff
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How long is a piece of string?
It's impossible to say how much I would pay for a miniature without knowing what miniature it is.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 20:51:37
Subject: How far would you go?
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Mutating Changebringer
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tybg wrote:None, I'd buy the boxed model and paint it myself.
This.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 20:58:12
Subject: Re:How far would you go?
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Confessor Of Sins
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I already have 4 of that model. Bought em myself for 17 dollars each direct from GW.
I hate painting (though I do prefer the look of painted models on a tabletop to unpainted ones, even if the paint job is sloppy) but I don't want to pay for people to paint my models either. I'd rather play with bare metal/plastic or primer-covered models. I just don't trust people to paint them right, really.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 21:25:14
Subject: Re:How far would you go?
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Mutating Changebringer
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Pouncey wrote:I already have 4 of that model. Bought em myself for 17 dollars each direct from GW.
I hate painting (though I do prefer the look of painted models on a tabletop to unpainted ones, even if the paint job is sloppy) but I don't want to pay for people to paint my models either. I'd rather play with bare metal/plastic or primer-covered models. I just don't trust people to paint them right, really.
My roommate pays me to paint his stuff.
He's very random in his pricing and expectations. $25 for the Changling... $5 apiece for Daemonettes.
But then he hands me a box of Horrors and says "Make the Champion and paint him fast. Really fast. You can keep the rest as payment".
By fast he means, white basecoat, pink wash, purple wash, some details, done.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 21:51:31
Subject: Re:How far would you go?
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Confessor Of Sins
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DeffDred wrote: Pouncey wrote:I already have 4 of that model. Bought em myself for 17 dollars each direct from GW.
I hate painting (though I do prefer the look of painted models on a tabletop to unpainted ones, even if the paint job is sloppy) but I don't want to pay for people to paint my models either. I'd rather play with bare metal/plastic or primer-covered models. I just don't trust people to paint them right, really.
My roommate pays me to paint his stuff.
He's very random in his pricing and expectations. $25 for the Changling... $5 apiece for Daemonettes.
But then he hands me a box of Horrors and says "Make the Champion and paint him fast. Really fast. You can keep the rest as payment".
By fast he means, white basecoat, pink wash, purple wash, some details, done.
That's more detail than most of my minis get. Usually it's just solid colors everywhere, maybe some drybrushing if they're really lucky. And that's the one that aren't just primer or grey/shiny grey.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 23:15:40
Subject: How far would you go?
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Missionary On A Mission
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Well I found an old unpainted metal dread on eBay. I wanted it so badly it ended up costing me $110 au Automatically Appended Next Post: Well I found an old unpainted metal dread on eBay. I wanted it so badly it ended up costing me $110 au
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: 4500pts
Lothlorien: 3500pts
Rohan: 1500pts
Serpent: 2000pts
Modor: 1500pts |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/10 00:03:48
Subject: How far would you go?
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Powerful Spawning Champion
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Okay so to answer the thread's question, even though we'd all prefer to paint and model our own gak - I'd be willing to pay up to 200 bucks for an out of print/limited print/prototype model that wasn't available anywhere else, and painted to perfection.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/10 00:09:44
Subject: How far would you go?
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Preacher of the Emperor
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Yeah, I'd go for something OOP. One of those ye olde Canonesses or a Sororitas standard bearer would be pretty cool. Doesn't matter if they're painted or not. I'd prefer unpainted, in fact.
Might be willing to pay around £16 for it. Maybe a little more. Depends.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/10 00:20:39
Subject: Re:How far would you go?
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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Pure monetary value objectively speaking:
Price of model (-20% if I can find it from a retailer, some are only from GW so it'd be GW price)
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Price of sending it to get painted professionally (which can be sometimes 20-30 dollars a model depending on the service level and size, friend of mine spent $3000 to get about 2000 points (maybe it was 3000 points of guard) painted up professionally. Looks nice as gak but I don't want to spend that much money.
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price of paint (which can run you some 30 bucks if you buy GW paints directly - but you will have plenty of paint left over however) and opportunity time which is usually zero unless you are doing it in place of work which can be high if you earn a lot. For infantry with lots of bling, it can take me some 2-3 hrs to get all the detailing in and another 1-2 hrs to do the base super well or 5 min if I just dump it in static grass.
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+ Thought of the day + Not even in death does duty end.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/10 03:16:01
Subject: How far would you go?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Angry Squig, interesting question, but here's the thing.
For a single miniature, beautifully converted, masterfully painted...I actually wouldn't buy it.
For a massive troop choice, like lots of Ork Boyz, painted consistently well...I would pay for this service.
I'd pay based on a percentage of the base model cost, 20% to maybe 50% max for that value-add.
That'd be just be a B-grade sort of painting, painted, muscles and face inked properly, teef, buckles, etc.
My reason - I like to paint, but I have limited time, and want to get an army up. So I'd rather focus on painting characters rather than do my Troops. I'd rather outsource my Troops out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/10 03:21:44
Subject: Re:How far would you go?
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Perfect Shot Black Templar Predator Pilot
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No more than retail value. I wouldn't mind having a mini painted by someone else, but I enjoy the hobby too much to pay extra for somebody else to do the hobby for me,
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/10 03:27:00
Subject: Re:How far would you go?
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Hellish Haemonculus
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Depends, is the answer.
I've seen some pretty amazing work. If, say, Lil'Loser was to approach me and offer to do a custom Vulkan He'Stan for my Salamanders army, I would be inclined to pay a hundred dollars or more, if I had it lying around.
I'll be honest, I have no problem paying for other people to do my work. I look at people like Brother SRM, Lil'Loser, and others on the Showcase forum, and there's no way I can realistically paint that well. And what's more, I despise painting. (Despise it!) I enjoy conversion work, but the painting is a pain in my fanny I could live without. The only reason I don't pay to have my whole army done is that I don't have the money. I highly suspect that the more money people have in their bank account, the less their artistic integrity when it comes to painting their own minis matters to them. Otherwise, commission painters would starve.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/10 03:32:03
Subject: How far would you go?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I would never use a model painted by another man, or even a strange female.
I paint my own models.
If the model is assembled well and I can strip the paint, then I'd pay -20% of the retail price.
NEVER more than that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/10 03:47:47
Subject: Re:How far would you go?
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Confessor Of Sins
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Jimsolo wrote:Depends, is the answer.
I've seen some pretty amazing work. If, say, Lil'Loser was to approach me and offer to do a custom Vulkan He'Stan for my Salamanders army, I would be inclined to pay a hundred dollars or more, if I had it lying around.
I'll be honest, I have no problem paying for other people to do my work. I look at people like Brother SRM, Lil'Loser, and others on the Showcase forum, and there's no way I can realistically paint that well. And what's more, I despise painting. (Despise it!) I enjoy conversion work, but the painting is a pain in my fanny I could live without. The only reason I don't pay to have my whole army done is that I don't have the money. I highly suspect that the more money people have in their bank account, the less their artistic integrity when it comes to painting their own minis matters to them. Otherwise, commission painters would starve.
Not in my case.
I have enough money to get my armies painted by a professional and still live quite comfortably at home with my parents. But I wouldn't do it anyways. It's not about artistic integrity; I just don't trust people to do it right (by which I mean get the color scheme right, not the quality of the paintjob), and I don't want to go through the hassle of dealing with a stranger.
However, if I were browsing eBay, say, looking for OOP Sisters of Battle miniatures, and I saw someone selling a masterfully-assembled, third party model which I could easily envision as being my not-Celestine character, but not an actual Celestine model, and she wasn't painted (I fear the stigma of people looking at my new centerpiece, then at the badly done rest of my army, and thinking, "What a jerk, he paid someone to paint that for him." I fear it even though I don't play at a store or club.). . .
I'd probably go as high as 40 or 50 dollars if it were OOP and I couldn't get it from a retailer. Maybe up to 100 or 120 if it was OOP and incredibly rare. But it's hard for me to know these things until I'm actually in that situation.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/10 03:52:39
Subject: Re:How far would you go?
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Hellish Haemonculus
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Pouncey wrote: Jimsolo wrote:Depends, is the answer.
I've seen some pretty amazing work. If, say, Lil'Loser was to approach me and offer to do a custom Vulkan He'Stan for my Salamanders army, I would be inclined to pay a hundred dollars or more, if I had it lying around.
I'll be honest, I have no problem paying for other people to do my work. I look at people like Brother SRM, Lil'Loser, and others on the Showcase forum, and there's no way I can realistically paint that well. And what's more, I despise painting. (Despise it!) I enjoy conversion work, but the painting is a pain in my fanny I could live without. The only reason I don't pay to have my whole army done is that I don't have the money. I highly suspect that the more money people have in their bank account, the less their artistic integrity when it comes to painting their own minis matters to them. Otherwise, commission painters would starve.
Not in my case.
I have enough money to get my armies painted by a professional and still live quite comfortably at home with my parents. But I wouldn't do it anyways. It's not about artistic integrity; I just don't trust people to do it right (by which I mean get the color scheme right, not the quality of the paintjob), and I don't want to go through the hassle of dealing with a stranger.
I'm given to understand that in the context of the question being asked, the model is already painted exactly how we want it. Am I the one confused?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/10 04:01:32
Subject: Re:How far would you go?
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Confessor Of Sins
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Jimsolo wrote: Pouncey wrote: Jimsolo wrote:Depends, is the answer.
I've seen some pretty amazing work. If, say, Lil'Loser was to approach me and offer to do a custom Vulkan He'Stan for my Salamanders army, I would be inclined to pay a hundred dollars or more, if I had it lying around.
I'll be honest, I have no problem paying for other people to do my work. I look at people like Brother SRM, Lil'Loser, and others on the Showcase forum, and there's no way I can realistically paint that well. And what's more, I despise painting. (Despise it!) I enjoy conversion work, but the painting is a pain in my fanny I could live without. The only reason I don't pay to have my whole army done is that I don't have the money. I highly suspect that the more money people have in their bank account, the less their artistic integrity when it comes to painting their own minis matters to them. Otherwise, commission painters would starve.
Not in my case.
I have enough money to get my armies painted by a professional and still live quite comfortably at home with my parents. But I wouldn't do it anyways. It's not about artistic integrity; I just don't trust people to do it right (by which I mean get the color scheme right, not the quality of the paintjob), and I don't want to go through the hassle of dealing with a stranger.
I'm given to understand that in the context of the question being asked, the model is already painted exactly how we want it. Am I the one confused?
No. It was a tangent that was about "people with enough money to have their armies painted let their artistic integrity falter."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/10 04:42:54
Subject: How far would you go?
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
Noctis Labyrinthus
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How far would I go?
I'd burn down an orphanage, purchasing the model with the blood of the innocent.
Money is not the only limiting factor. Morality, or self-preservation limits people.
There are no limits to be found here.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/10 05:39:56
Subject: How far would you go?
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
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It just wouldn't look unified, having someone else's painted model in my army, especially if it is pre-based.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/11 02:39:58
Subject: How far would you go?
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
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Void__Dragon wrote:How far would I go?
I'd burn down an orphanage, purchasing the model with the blood of the innocent.
Money is not the only limiting factor. Morality, or self-preservation limits people.
There are no limits to be found here.
Thank you for this reply. It is probably one of 3 replies I have truly found funny or helpful. You have just brightened my day
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angel of ecstasy wrote:
You take a dump, you flip through the Dark Eldar codex, the concept art for Lelith Hesperax shows up and you pee on the floor.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/11 02:49:11
Subject: How far would you go?
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Confessor Of Sins
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TheAngrySquig wrote: Void__Dragon wrote:How far would I go?
I'd burn down an orphanage, purchasing the model with the blood of the innocent.
Money is not the only limiting factor. Morality, or self-preservation limits people.
There are no limits to be found here.
Thank you for this reply. It is probably one of 3 replies I have truly found funny or helpful. You have just brightened my day
Helpful?
What did you need help with, exactly?
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