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 TechmarineNic wrote:
Recently bought two boxes am I better have 10 of a particular or 5 of both?

Sorry to tell you, but bikes are better than either. I converted my raptors into bikes.


Raptors work alright as 5 man melta teams if you face armor. Termicide is probably better but the raptors will get a second shot if they arent killed.

Warptalons arent great. They are the worst unit in the FA section for chaos. Compared to some of the things in elite, like Possessed they look alright though.

 Ailaros wrote:


Furthermore, warp talons aren't... necessarily... THAT bad. I mean, they start out as raptors, and then gain fearless, a 5++, and Ap3 for only 10 more points. With their speed, they could make a pretty good counter-attack unit. Just don't use them like the fluff tells you to - deepstriking small squads of them into your opponent's stuff.

Warptalons are not fearless
Warptalons are 13 ppm more
Warptalons lose their grenades
Warptalons lose their pistols and the ability to take special weapons
Warptalon marks are much more expensive.


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 Ailaros wrote:
I don't think raptors are straight worse than bikes, what with deepstrike being situationally more useful, and the fact that they can enter ruins, and can reroll charges, rather than always taking dangerous terrain tests.

Bikes can always re-roll charge distance, always get HoW, have 5+ cover, can turbo, have T5, have twinlinked bolters, are relentless, cost 2ppm more with VotLW

2ppm! Kelly doesnt know what he is doing.