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I gotta travel for work and I'm gonna have a long layover in Milwaukee, gonna try to pick-up a game at the GW shop there, here's the most "compact" list I could think of:

Belial, TH/SS
Librarian, TDA, force axe

DW Termies x5, CML
DW Termies x5, HF
DW Termies x5, TH/SS sgt, PC

1000pts on the dot.

Thinking of keeping the CML squad on the board on the home objective, cast Prescience on them for turn 1 twin-linkage while Belial + HF-squad and the PC-squad drops-in on the enemy.
The whole army fits in a todler shoe-box!

This is mainly for fun, but I think it can still hold its own, wadayathink?

Its probably the best army you will fit in such a small box. You will suffer against flyers but aside from replacing the librarian for a small tactical squad, or scouts with a Flak ML i cant really think of alternatives.

Looks alright, although the Sgt in squad 3 can't have a TH/SS (stupid FAQ...).

Ok, thanks guys.
Are people really that anal about the sgt options?

After the FAQ theres not that much room to advocate any other opinions...

Just re-read the faq... I see what the wording issue is now.

Stupid really. Specially since now a bunch of people probably have sergeant with the TH/SS and the CML modeled already...

Thus Magnets. Although that ain't much help to people who've already glued things.

17 Termi's is going to be hard for a lot of people to deal with at that points, I've had people be troubled by 11 of them (Belial & co).
I'd see if you could try to fit in some more TH/SS's, they really help when people decide that they really want to try out their new vindicator/executioner or classic nascar guard.
To do that you *could* drop a squad, bring a dread w/ 2* TL/AC, pimp out the weapons a bit and bring a couple more bodies with any left over points.

I thought about bringing a dread but I like having the 3rd scoring unit better.

Won 3 out of 3 (first 2 against RW, last one against DE).

Gj. You might find that eldar and dark eldar give you some worry with psychic powers and those high str AP2 shots, however the libraarian should counteract those. Which powers do you use for the libby?

 phoenix darkus wrote:
Won 3 out of 3 (first 2 against RW, last one against DE).

So, I have the Horus Heresy book and am contemplating a renegade anti-Deathwing army and I'd really like to see how you would change your list if you knew you were going against a TDA heavy (exclusive, perhaps) list...

As a preview of the HH list I will post soon, I can get a (non named) HQ that unlocks Termies as troops (but no DS) for 167 points... or a young Abadon for 215 points (giving me termies and vets as troops & DS)

I look forward to your thoughts

Hey, I would be interested in a small 1000 DW army thats affordable. Would you change this list if ya had more room, and with what? Thanks, and btw nice job on the three wins

Good job, that many DW is just overpowering.

Ok, so here's my take at an anti-Deathwing HH Terminator list, though, FWIW I have not maxed out for anti TEQ, this is at least close to what I'd run as a take all comers HH deathwing (perhaps I should say ante-Deathwing, as in a precursor) with Sons of Horus:

HQ -- 167 -- Praetor
Cataphractii Term armor (2+ 4++ Slow & purposful)
1 LC, Digital Laser (+1A) Combi wep

Elite (or HQ bodyguard) -- 374 -- Justaerin Terminator squad
(5 in Cataphractii armor (above) + furious charge + stubborn)
Multi Melta + Power wep (thinking maul, but could go sword)
2x 1LC
1 Chain fist
2x combi wep (probably meltas)
(model w/o LC/CF has a power wep, maul/sword/axe)
(models w/o Combi/Heavy have combi bolters)

Troop -- 229 -- Cataphractii Terminators
(5 in Cataphractii armor)
Plasma blaster (18" assault 2) & power sword
2x 1 LC
1 PF
2x Combi melta
Grenade Harness (1 use assault grenades)
(model w/o LC/CF has a power wep, maul/sword/axe)
(models w/o Combi/Heavy have combi bolters)

Troop -- 219 -- Standard terminators
(TDA 2+ 5++ Relentless)
Reaper AC & Power maul
2x 1 LC
1x PF
2x Combi plas
(model w/o LC/CF has a power wep, maul/sword/axe)
(models w/o Combi/Heavy have combi bolters)

Total: 989 (enough to swap a PW for a TH somewhere or add another combi-plas to the standard terminators)

How do you think the Deathwing would fare against this list, and note, I would not be able to teleport these guys, so you would have something of an advantage there...

If you ever get into combat with DW you won't last long if you take mauls and swords. sure you'll swing first, but then you've got PF's coming at you.

I'd try this:
Praetor, Iron Halo, Paragon Blade, PF, Digital Lasers, 185
Centurion, Moritat, 2* PP, Artificer, Jump Pack, 145

Terminators, Cataphractii, Grenade Harness, 2*Combi-Melta, 1* CF, Reaper AC or Plasma Blaster, 4* Power Axes, 224
Terminators, Cataphractii, Grenade Harness, 2*Combi-Melta, 1* CF, Reaper AC or Plasma Blaster, 4* Power Axes, 224
Terminators, Cataphractii, Grenade Harness, 2* PF, 1* CF, Reaper AC or Plasma Blaster, 2* Power Axes, 220

998 points there. I was trying to think of a way of putting in Volkite Chargers and more combi-weapons but as soon as you start doing that they get very expensive.
The Centurion hides out in cover, hopping here and there using his gunslinger shiz to wreck face, would prefer it if he were on a jetbike but points.
The Praetor here would be a combat god, 6 attacks base (S5 AP2 at I5 or S8 AP2 at I1). Put him with the PF wielders and watch them eat lots of things. If there were points I'd give the last two power axes lightning claws.

Edit: mislisted Praetor cost.