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I'm curious as to whether anyone has found a viable way to take NM and PM in the same CSM army without it being a 3k point game.
I tend to play 1500 - 2000 point games and I'd love to field both but I always find it to be a huge point sink to take both and when I do I feel as if my army is trying to play in different styles.
What are other people's experiances? Can you take both and have a strong force or is it better to go mono god?

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Battleship Captain




Oregon

You can do both but it requires good point spending discipline.

I'd probably put both lords on bikes. Give them a power axe and single claw (Nurgle & Slaanesh) and an inv save. That's 230-250 points. Put them in small unmarked biker squads and use for counter assault.

Now take MSU BM NM squads and MSU plasma PM squads. Sprinkle in drakes and heavy support of choice.

Hopefully the blast masters help make up for the 2 drake max.

If you don't like bikers or want more drakes, put both lords in cultist squads as bullet catchers.

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 minigun762 wrote:
You can do both but it requires good point spending discipline.

I'd probably put both lords on bikes. Give them a power axe and single claw (Nurgle & Slaanesh) and an inv save. That's 230-250 points. Put them in small unmarked biker squads and use for counter assault.

Now take MSU BM NM squads and MSU plasma PM squads. Sprinkle in drakes and heavy support of choice.

Hopefully the blast masters help make up for the 2 drake max.

If you don't like bikers or want more drakes, put both lords in cultist squads as bullet catchers.


A powerfist and LC costs 10 points more than power axe+LC and gives you +1 attacks, str8 when using the AP2. Worth it.

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Oregon

Sorry, I wasn't clear.

I meant the Nurgle lord got an axe and the Slaanesh lord got a single claw. Cheap but still effective.
   
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Pacific NW

And really that 10 points adds up. What you were thinking Exergy (that both Lords had both weapons) would actually be 20 points from the list. That kind of stuff adds up very, very quickly. Its not uncommon to see 100-120 points spent on wargear options that are "worth it" that, taken collectively, aren't worth more than having another scoring unit.

minigun762 is on the money. Some cheap and cheerful Lords with the appropriate Marks would make this possible.

Just slapping things together:

115 pts - Chaos Lord w/ Mark of Nurgle, Bike, Power Axe
115 pts - Chaos Lord w/ Mark of Slaanesh, Bike, Lightning Claw

185 pts - Plague Marines (5) w/ (2) Plasma Gun, Rhino
185 pts - Plague Marines (5) w/ (2) Plasma Gun, Rhino
137 pts - Noise Marines (5) w/ (4) Sonic Blasters and (1) Blastmasters
299 pts - Noise Marines (10) w/ (8) Sonic Blasters and (2) Blastmasters, Rhino

108 pts - Chaos Spawn (3) w/ Mark of Nurgle
170 pts - Heldrake w/ Baleflamer
170 pts - Heldrake w/ Baleflamer

115 pts - Predator w/ Autocannon Turret, Lascannon Sponsons
115 pts - Predator w/ Autocannon Turret, Lascannon Sponsons

1749 Total Points


It is not a completely terrible list though at second glance I'd want to put in a Maulerfiend and would probably drop the 5 man Noise Marines to do it and use the extra points (12 I think) on Wargear on existing units.

So its totally possible to take both. Just keep the buy-in costs low by keeping your Lords low in cost.

   
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Oregon

I'd drop the MoN on spawn so the biker lords can join the squad. Minor change really.
   
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Pacific NW

Good point. Forgot the MoS Lord would be unable to join the Spawn.

   
 
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