Trayvon Martin case: All female jury picked---Verdict Not Guilty

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**Frazzled**

Interesting strategy. I see three that will default to not convict: 76, 37, E6 (especially E6), and the alternate B72.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-jury-20130620,0,3507776.story

George Zimmerman trial: Jury selected in Trayvon Martin shooting case
By Rene Stutzman and Jeff Weiner, Orlando Sentinel

3:05 p.m. EDT, June 20, 2013
SANFORD - A jury has been selected for the second-degree murder trial of George Zimmerman in the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, after more than a week of intensive jury selection in the high-profile case.

The lawyers have selected 10 Seminole County residents -- six jurors and four alternates -- to serve as jurors for a trial which is expected to last two to four weeks, and is sure to be closely watched across the nation.

Prosecutors say Zimmerman profiled, pursued and killed the unarmed teen Feb. 26, 2012, in Sanford. Zimmerman says he fired in self-defense after he was attacked by Trayvon, a high school junior from Miami Gardens.

Here are some details about the jurors selected today, which were revealed during the jury selection process:

B-29: A Hispanic nurse on an Alzheimer's ward who has several children and lived in Chicago at the time of shooting. She’s married. She said she doesn't watch the news, preferring reality television: “Right when we got here, I got cable... I love my reality shows.” During jury selection, she said she was arrested once in Chicago.

B-76: A white, middle-aged woman who said Zimmerman had an “altercation with the young man. There was a struggle and the gun went off.” Has been married 30 years, and is unemployed. She formerly worked with her husband in his construction company. Her 28-year-old son is an attorney in Seminole County. She also has a daughter, 26, has been a victim of non-violent crime and rescues “a lot of pets.” The state tried to strike her, but was denied.

B-37: A middle-aged white woman who has worked for a chiropractor for 16 years and has many pets. She described protests in Sanford as “rioting.” Her husband is an attorney. She has two daughters: A 24-year-old dog groomer and a 27-year-old who attends the University of Central Florida. B-37 used to have concealed weapons permit, but let it lapse. Her husband also has one.

B-51: A retired white woman from Oviedo who has a dog and 20-year-old cat. She knew a good deal about the case, but said “I'm not rigid in my thinking.” She has been in Seminole County for nine years, is unmarried and has no kids. B-51 previously lived in Atlanta, and used to work in real estate. She also ran a call center in Brevard County which she said had 1,200 employees.

E-6: A young white woman and mother who used to work in financial services. She used this case as an example to her two adolescent children, warning them to not go out at night. She has lived in Seminole County for eight years, and is married to an engineer. E-6 was arrested in Brevard County, but said she “was treated completely fairly.” Her husband has guns. The state tried to strike her from the jury, but was denied.

E-40: A white woman in her 60s who lived in Iowa at the time of the shooting. She heard national news reports and recalls the shooting was in a gated community and a teenager was killed. She described herself as a safety officer, is married to a chemical engineer and loves football. She has a 28-year-old son who’s out of work. She said she’s very well versed in cell phone technology, and has been a victim of crime.

These are the alternates:

E-54: A middle-aged white man with a teenage stepson who wears hoodies. He recalled seeing photos of Zimmerman's head and face that show injuries. E-54 loves golf and genealogy, and said he’s been married for five years to a technical engineer. He grew up in Seminole County and has a teenage stepson.

B-72: A young, possibly Hispanic man who does maintenance at a school and competes in arm wrestling tournaments. He said he avoids the news because he does not want to be “brainwashed.” B-72 grew up in Chicago, is single and an alumni of Phi Beta Kappa. He is very physically active, having participated in high school football, track and weightlifting. Of arm-wrestling he said, “I could talk about it all day.”

E-13: A young white woman who goes to college and works two jobs, one of them as a surgical assistant. She heard the shooting was a “racial thing.” She said she could be a fair juror “just because I don't really know that much.” She is single, has lived in Seminole County for 17 years and attends church. She also owns and rides horses.

E-28: A middle-aged white woman who has worked as a nurse for 26 years. She knew little about the case and has no opinion about Zimmerman's guilt. She has lived in Seminole County since 1985, and has been married for 28 years; her husband is a teacher. Has two adult children: 27, 23 yo kids, theme park.

**djones520**

The all female thing surprised me. I'd imagine the women would be more inclined to go with the "victim child" bent that the prosecution is going to go on.

**Dreadclaw69**

Thank you for the update

**mega_bassist**

Can they actually do that? I thought they were supposed more...diverse.

**Rented Tritium**

At this point, I don't really care what happens. My complaints stopped when he went to actual trial. I'll be fine with whatever result a fair trial produces.

**sourclams**

mega_bassist wrote:
Can they actually do that? I thought they were supposed more...diverse.

It's minorities and women. One of which might be a closet lesbian.

How much more freaking diversity do you want?

**Alfndrate**

sourclams wrote:
mega_bassist wrote:
Can they actually do that? I thought they were supposed more...diverse.

It's minorities and women. One of which might be a closet lesbian.

How much more freaking diversity do you want?

"Cis straight white male"? Do we have one of them in there

**Frazzled**

djones520 wrote:
The all female thing surprised me. I'd imagine the women would be more inclined to go with the "victim child" bent that the prosecution is going to go on.

Normally yes, but they could push - "evil doer in the dark attacking me" angle. Plus those three are a gift. We have to remember the jury can only be pulled from the jurisdiction (usually) and the available pool of that day. I think they went through something like 300 jurors to get 6. I wonder what the standard is. Self defense is usually an affirmative defense, and Captain Alzheimers can't remember what that does to the standard.

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mega_bassist wrote:
Can they actually do that? I thought they were supposed more...diverse.

They are. Knocking down a female jury is difficult. Besides the defendant would want this jury.

**daedalus**

Alfndrate wrote:
sourclams wrote:
mega_bassist wrote:
Can they actually do that? I thought they were supposed more...diverse.

It's minorities and women. One of which might be a closet lesbian.

How much more freaking diversity do you want?

"Cis straight white male"? Do we have one of them in there

"Jury of one's peers" always bothered me, for multiple reasons.

**djones520**

I'd expect to hear screams about how no one on the jury is black.

**whembly**

djones520 wrote:
I'd expect to hear screams about how no one on the jury is black.

I figured there'd be more hispanics... I thought that jurisdiction was where "little cuba" is at in Florida. o.O

**MrDwhitey**

My knowledge of jury picking is entirely from "A Time to Kill", and so this is entirely believable.

**Jihadin**

You know that's coming. More so if the defendant start winning.

**djones520**

whembly wrote:
djones520 wrote:
I'd expect to hear screams about how no one on the jury is black.

I figured there'd be more hispanics... I thought that jurisdiction was where "little cuba" is at in Florida. o.O

2 out of 10 were.

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Jihadin wrote:
You know that's coming. More so if the defendant start winning.

Yep. I'd expect to see some of the usual race baiters down there stirring things up, just like they did when this whole thing began.

**whembly**

djones520 wrote:
whembly wrote:
djones520 wrote:
I'd expect to hear screams about how no one on the jury is black.

I figured there'd be more hispanics... I thought that jurisdiction was where "little cuba" is at in Florida. o.O

2 out of 10 were.

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Jihadin wrote:
You know that's coming. More so if the defendant start winning.

Yep. I'd expect to see some of the usual race baiters down there stirring things up, just like they did when this whole thing began.

It's an interesting strategy for both the Prosecuters and Defendant... but, not a single male juror. o.O

**djones520**

2 of the alternates are male. 1 white, 1 hispanic.

**whembly**

djones520 wrote:
2 of the alternates are male. 1 white, 1 hispanic.

Missed that.. still, it's interesting.

**Alfndrate**

daedalus wrote:
Alfndrate wrote:
sourclams wrote:
mega_bassist wrote:
Can they actually do that? I thought they were supposed more...diverse.

It's minorities and women. One of which might be a closet lesbian.

How much more freaking diversity do you want?

"Cis straight white male"? Do we have one of them in there

"Jury of one's peers" always bothered me, for multiple reasons.

Should I request dakkanauts that are also in fraternities?

**Monster Rain**

You don't want me on your jury.

**Ouze**

Don't we have some jury selection consultants up in here? Lets hear their thoughts.

My personal feeling is that females are bad for Mr. Zimmerman, but clearly his attorneys feel otherwise and what the hell do I know.

**JWhex**

Well the defense and the prosecution can only pick from whatever the jury pool is and even that is limited by who actually shows up when called for jury duty.

Usually both sides have a number of auto excludes, no questions asked. I have been called to jury duty three times but never selected, which is not an uncommon result since there are not a lot of trials going on. A couple of times I didnt even have to go to the court house.

**Ouze**

JWhex wrote:
Well the defense and the prosecution can only pick from whatever the jury pool is and even that is limited by who actually shows up when called for jury duty.

Sure, but statistically they should have had at least a few men available after burning some peremptories, right? It seems to me they must have decided that an entirely female jury was OK...or perhaps they blew all of their challenges early\poorly in bouncing other jurors they considered even more undesirable, I guess.

**JWhex**

Ouze wrote:
JWhex wrote:
Well the defense and the prosecution can only pick from whatever the jury pool is and even that is limited by who actually shows up when called for jury duty.

Sure, but statistically they should have had at least a few men available after burning some peremptories, right? It seems to me they must have decided that an entirely female jury was OK...or perhaps they blew all of their challenges early\poorly in bouncing other jurors they considered even more undesirable, I guess.

No way of knowing unless you were in the room when potential jurors are being questioned and screened. Even then its not always obvious to a layman why someone was excluded. I dont think it is a big deal that the jury is all female.

**Seaward**

Jihadin wrote:
You know that's coming. More so if the defendant start winning.

Oh, it's here. Frequent the liberal blogosphere for amusement as I do, and you'll see plenty of it. Also a lot of claims that the two who have guns in the household should have been bounced because they clearly have mental disorders.

**Palindrome**

If the just was comprised of 10 men would a similar thread exist?

**Breotan**

I'm reminded of the Menendez brothers' first trial. That ended deadlocked and at least one of the female jurors said she felt sorry for them because they lost their parents.

**Ouze**

Palindrome wrote:
If the just was comprised of 10 men would a similar thread exist?

Sure. There's lots of interest in this case.

**Palindrome**

Ouze wrote:

Sure. There's lots of interest in this case.

I can all but guarantee that the sex of its memebers wouldn't be mentioned though, certainly not in the title.

**Ouze**

Well, we can't really have a meaningful conversation about the specifics of a thread that happened in a different multiverse. It's my opinion that a unisex jury for a case that's been followed as closely as this on Dakka would have been newsy enough to have gotten a thread either way, as would have either an all white or all black jury.

**Jihadin**

Maybe it was how the dice rolled on this on. That all primary jurors ended up being females. I can see the angle "mother with son" bit, "Mother who has a smiliar son" bit. Or "mother who has a son already playing in Martin lifestyle" NOtice all the pictures so far has been "good pics" and I'm sure there are bad pics of Martin posted already online as porping a "Gangbanger" life style.