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ok, so I recently purchased a squad of eldar wraithguard ( I assembled 4 as guard and 1 as blade) just to use as an allies for my SM or GK army, but I got this months issue of white-dwarf and saw the spiritseer, wraithknight, and wraithlord. I am now considering making a small army of eldar wraith units. any thaoughts?,p.s check my threads, not many people are

For starters, don't' ask for pirated material here on Dakka, as that's the surest way to get your thread locked.

Secondly, Spiritseers make your Wraithguard/Wraith Blades troops, so if you want to run a Wraith Army they are a must.

As for the Viability, it's hard to tell. It would be a very small model count army.

I'd suggest picking up the Iyanden supplement if you choose to do this.

Also the blades and guard don't mix as a unit, they're separate.

I'm working on a wraith heavy list myself at the moment, like Sasori said it's pretty low model count so it seems best to shove them into transports and mix in some non-wraith units to support them a bit.

It's perfectly feasible. I run 10 Wraithguard standard in Wave Serpents and 5 with D-Scythes in a Serpent. Two Wraithlords and a Knight with suncannon. I also have a Hemlock flying around, but I'd reccommend against it, it's not idea. I'd drop it for a Farseer with one squad, or drop that and a lord for another knight.

It plays pretty well, though you definitely need to use the Serpents to make it work. I'd also recommend against Wraithblades in this army, as they won't be attacking til turn 3 if they are in a tank, and if they aren't they'll probably get shot to hell. I've won against Tau and Tyranids with it, though you have to play them smart.

If you want to go mostly Wraith, I'd actually avoid mixing in other units. There lower toughness will make them particularly vulnerable to all the small arms fire your other units will shrug off, and everything will be dedicated to killing them. Going with all Wraith, however, str 4 and lower is practically useless.

@tanuvein thanks for the tip/s I was thinking of having a very slow moving army with two lines of wraithgurad (10 models each) and a wedge of blades (scattersheilds, ghostaxes) and a wraithlord or two (one for killing vehicles from afar, one for destroying up close). as well as a spiritseer. any further thaugjhts on the matter? also, I was thinking of having the wraithe bone turquoise and the rest blue, the stones purple or green?

I was thinking stuff like Warp Spiders cause they're fast and can deal with flyers decently compared to the rest.

Colours sound decent. What shade of blue was it going to be?

ultramarine blue washed with drakenof nightshade. yes I do like warp spiders very much and might use one as cc support (a squad for each 10 wraith guard/blade)
p.s I like your profile picture you paint/own it yourself? (if for some reason this coment is offensive (which experiances with my local store manager would suggest ) your forgiveness Is appreciated0 lol.
p.p.s the wraithguard legs are SO ANNOYING TO POSe, I mean for

Sounds like it could be a good list, definitely screen with the shield and axe guys first, to at least give the others cover saves. I like to go with scatter lasers and starcannons on my lords, which gives you more shots and can be a threat to most armor. The main problem with this list will be enemies with speed and enemies with heavy armor. Short of of the Lords weapons, most vehicles are going to stay out of your range and just hit you, and not having lances on the Lords will mean you can't hurt them. But if you take lances, then you won't have any high volume shots to deal with hordes and your powerful Wraith army will just get tied up.

If you want to go with a foot army, I'd actually look at taking 3 lords to give anti-horde and long range, light vehicle sniping capabilities. There's no reason not to give them ghostglaives too, so they can destroy vehicles up close. A spiritseer is a must to make your guard troops. If you are ok with Forgeworld, I'd look at taking a Wraithseer to take a power that'll give your Wraithguard FnP 4+, and would consider a stock Wraithknight for anti heavy armor. Its cannons can punch through every vehicle, and if that's not enough it can still assault them to finish them off.

So to keep with a foot theme of 20 guard and 10 blades, I'd look at two lords with some sort of high volume weapon, (remember, scatter lasers make your other weapon twinlinked, so I do recommend a shuriken cannon or starcannon instead of two lasers), a stock knight and a spiritseer with farseer/wraithseer support.

ok thanks. il put up a few pics of my assembled wraithguard on Thursday night,just gotta keep this thread alive until then. I was thinking of maybe looking at forge world, but (oh man) my parants wot allow me to order stuff online, sigh.

the shrouded lord wrote:
ultramarine blue washed with drakenof nightshade. yes I do like warp spiders very much and might use one as cc support (a squad for each 10 wraith guard/blade)
p.s I like your profile picture you paint/own it yourself? (if for some reason this coment is offensive (which experiances with my local store manager would suggest ) your forgiveness Is appreciated0 lol.
p.p.s the wraithguard legs are SO ANNOYING TO POSe, I mean for

I don't mind, yes I did paint it myself. Yeah, the legs are paired up with little to no room for variation.

If you're going with a lighter blue like that, I suppose the green would work best for the gems with the turquoise. I'd also have to second the Wraithseer, it looks quite nice.

yes the wraithseer does look very nice, I might be able to con the manager at my local store (a friend of mine) into ordering it and then just buying it off him
i checked your blog, the eldar rangers camo cloakis you painted are amazing.

Oh, I forgot to address n0t_u's point of maybe taking some Warp Spiders. I agree, this will be your best anti-air but I'd probably hold them in reserves so they aren't a target early on. Deepstrike or just walk them on depending on the situation at the time. They would add some much needed speed mid to late game and provide more anti-air.

Another alternative is to take a squad of Guardians behind an Aegis Defense line with the anti-air gun or perhaps one of the new terrain pieces. This way they can provide anti-air and move to hold a nearby objective around turn 5. With a Warlock, you should be able to give them a pretty high cover save.

Can anyone tell me all of the actual stats of the eldar wraiths units and their weapons? I don't have the $82 dollars to spend on a side project (sheepish grin)

the shrouded lord wrote:
Can anyone tell me all of the actual stats of the eldar wraiths units and their weapons? I don't have the $82 dollars to spend on a side project (sheepish grin)

Dakka is not a replacement for the codex.

Fair enough.

Ok, I've spent the lest two hours trying to figure this out and its fething one o'clock in the morning so I don't want to hear gak about the damn codex! What are the options/stats of a wraithseer! You'd fething think that bloody forge world would say on the fething site! For crying out loud, it's fething rediculous

the shrouded lord wrote:
Ok, I've spent the lest two hours trying to figure this out and its fething one o'clock in the morning so I don't want to hear gak about the damn codex! What are the options/stats of a wraithseer! You'd fething think that bloody forge world would say on the fething site! For crying out loud, it's fething rediculous

Tough. The forum rules exist for a reason, unless you want GW to issue a cease-and-desist order and stop the forum from existing at all.
Just get the damn codex already. You've already wasted some money assembling your Wraithguard into a unit you can't actually take, don't make the same mistake again.

Wraithseer is in Imperial Armor 11, but you can find the PDF for those specific rules on Forgeworld's site.

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/w/wraithseer.pdf

And the pskyer FAQ is important for it:

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/p/Psykers.pdf

If you searched enough on the army list forum on this very site you can figure out most costs just by reverse calculating....5 wraith guard cost 165 points so each one costs....

in google type in 1d4 chan elder tactics, they have a good (and funny) tactics wiki that also has some good specifics for you.

Tough. The forum rules exist for a reason, unless you want GW to issue a cease-and-desist order and stop the forum from existing at all.
Just get the damn codex already. You've already wasted some money assembling your Wraithguard into a unit you can't actually take, don't make the same mistake again.

I had another look at forge world, and I'm gonna try converting a wraithlord into a wraithseer. Any ideas how I could do the spear?, also I got a necron cryptec a while a go and I finally painted (harbinger of destruction)