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My FLGS has a tourney coming up in a couple months and surprisingly it's 2250 with a double FOC. No Allies & no fortifications.

Autarch ...... 140
Jetbike, Banshee Mask, Shard of Anaris, Fusion Gun

Spiritseer ...... 70


3 x 5 Dire Avengers ..... 195
3 x Wave Serpent ...... 435
TL Scatterlaser, Shuriken Cannon, & Holofields

5 Wraithguard ...... 210
D-scythes
Wave Serpent ...... 135
TL Scatterlaser & Holofields

3 x Fire Prism ...... 420
Holofield

3 War Walkers ...... 210
Scatterlaser and Starcannon each

6 Shining Spears ...... 185
Exarch w/ Star Lance and Hit and Run

2 x 6 Warp Spiders ...... 228

Total: 2243

The Autarch and spiritseer go with the shining spears. Spiritseer can use conceal to give them shrouded and that stacked with skilled rider gives the shiningspear squad a 2+ cover save as long as they move.

Let me know what you guys think and if you have any ideas for a different type of list.
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List 2 (Footdar)

Avatar w/ fast shot ...... 205

Fuegan ...... 220

Warlock Council: 2 Warlocks ...... 70

20 Guardians ...... 220
2 x Starcannon

20 Guardians ...... 220
2 x Brightlance

10 Guardians ...... 110
Brightlance

10 Dire Avengers ...... 160 (Fuegan goes here)
Exarch w/ Power wep & Shimmershield

3 x 6 Warp Spiders ...... 342

6 Swooping Hawks ...... 96

Wraithknight ...... 280
2 x Scatterlaser & 2 x Heavy wraith cannon

2 x Wraithlord ...... 330
Scatterlaser, Starcannon, 2 x Flamer, ghostglaive

Total: 2253

I just need to shave off 3 points, but I thought I would go ahead and put this list up for review as well. Footdar has become as potent as mechdar and I would like to try out this list. Good amount of big stompy things and a lot of manz to back them up.

Sadly, spiritseers can't take jetbikes, they have to hoof it. You could run him with the wraithguard instead, or drop him for some points elsewhere. Alternatively, shave points somewhere to make him a farseer on a bike.

The spear exarch should take monster hunter, as it makes the squad better at what they do best, kill MC's. You even have the points to do it without changing a thing in your list. Unless your meta has no MC's it is well worth it.

My FLGS has a tourney coming up in a couple months and surprisingly it's 2250 with a double FOC. No Allies & no fortifications.

That's an interesting pattern. Eldar should always max out HS and here you have the opportunity to take six HS units. Ouch!

As stated no JB option for Spiritseer. That whole unit is s big points sink waste for me though at 410 points. I'd drop that for more Spiders and a Laughingtarch.

Dump the chin cannons from the DA Serpents and then find the 45 points it would take to up them all to guardians.

I'm not sure that TeQ and MeQ are massive problems for you so I wonder if that is the best config for the War Walkers. Wouldn't double BL be a better bet as you are likely to face quad Landraiders at this point level.

What's your plan for AA?

Might as well give Monster Hunter to the Spear Exarch if you end up with 5 points left to spare after your list remodel.

@Dr.Serling - thanks for pointing the spiritseer out. I'm kind of not feeling the shining spear hq squad anyways.

What would you guys suggest I use to replace the autarch, spiritseer, and shinging spears with? They all add up to 410 points.

@Flingitnow - I don't really like the laughingtarch that much either, he's pretty cheesy. I'm thinking of putting an autarch with a big squad of warp spiders and have a farseer on a jetbike zoom around and buff stuff. I'll see about changing a squad or two of those dire avengers into guardians as well. TEQ and MEQ are pretty big problems at my FLGS so I'll try using brightlances if the starcannons don't work well.


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I could still use some help on both of these lists; thanks for the input so far.

Your first list is solid. If you want to drop the spear squad and stuff, consider throwing that wraithknight in there and just running the autarch with the spiders.

For the second list, I like the idea of fuegan in a dire avenger squad. Having that 5++ to help tank saves is really nice. Plus, you can have fuegan double tap his pike at armor while the avengers shoot softer targets.

There is no point to have 2 scatter lasers on the wraithknight, as you should be shooting the cannonsinstead... Also since you have so much to boost it would be nice to get a farseer into the list for psychic support.

If you take out the spiritseer, your wraithguards won't be scoring. Are you sure about only 3 troops at 2250?

With the second list, break up the 20-man units and fill up your 6 troop slots instead. I'd also try to fit a farseer in there as well. Your weakness is the avatar. Once killed, the rest of your troops can start falling back. Hence why I prefer 6 troops as opposed to 4 and potentially Fortune or Invisibility on Ava.