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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/03 07:23:56
Subject: 1850 tournament list Grey Knights and Necrons
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant
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So i have a list with a few different options I am trying to figure out that's competitive, both of which are fairly similar. If there are giant changes that our needed, just let me know like if this entire army sucks or some variety of changes. Let me know!
Inquisitor w/ Terminator Armor, Psyker(divination), psycannon 110pts
x2 x10 Grey Knight Strike Squad x2 psycannon psyammo x1 demonhammer on the justicar 250pts per squad (500pts total)
x2 Nemeisis Dreadknights heavy psycannon, greatsword 195pts (390pts total)
Necron Allies
Necron Overlord with Warscythe 100pts
x2 x5 Necron Warriors in a Nightscythe 165pts (330pts in total)
This leaves me around 420pts to spend it on. So I am not sure what to take from that point on, more troops, a stormraven, maybe another dreadknight or a mix of both, or something that I am totally not thinking of. Well it is up for you guys who probably know this game better than I do to make the call.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/03 07:30:15
Subject: 1850 tournament list Grey Knights and Necrons
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Shunting Grey Knight Interceptor
Finland
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Because this is tournament list, lets improve it a bit:
-Give NDK Incinerators.
-Swap Inq for Coteaz
-Swap necron overlord to Destro lord with MSS, Sempiternal weave and 6 wraiths, at this point you should be something like
~1650p, I would add third dreadknight. Or annihilation barge and couple of acolytes in razorbacks.
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2013 Wins/Losses in Tournaments
Necrons (with various allies ): 9/3 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/03 07:39:57
Subject: 1850 tournament list Grey Knights and Necrons
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant
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My only problem with the NDK incinerators is why? if they are footslogging and do not have the teleporters? in addition why the swap for Coteaz sure it is cheaper but is it really needed and I am losing the extra psycannon.
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Same list, different army
6th Edition W 32 L 7 D:3 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/03 07:40:40
Subject: 1850 tournament list Grey Knights and Necrons
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Shan1 wrote:Because this is tournament list, lets improve it a bit:
-Give NDK Incinerators.
-Swap Inq for Coteaz
-Swap necron overlord to Destro lord with MSS, Sempiternal weave and 6 wraiths, at this point you should be something like
~1650p, I would add third dreadknight. Or annihilation barge and couple of acolytes in razorbacks.
In fact, Necrons could contribute a DLord (equipped as above), 6 Wraiths, and an Annihilation Barge.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/03 07:51:30
Subject: 1850 tournament list Grey Knights and Necrons
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant
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I was hesitant on the annihilation barge as it is my only non flyer vehicle which could get blown out of the water turn 1.
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Same list, different army
6th Edition W 32 L 7 D:3 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/03 07:55:32
Subject: 1850 tournament list Grey Knights and Necrons
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Shan1 wrote:Because this is tournament list, lets improve it a bit:
-Give NDK Incinerators.
-Swap Inq for Coteaz
-Swap necron overlord to Destro lord with MSS, Sempiternal weave and 6 wraiths, at this point you should be something like
~1650p, I would add third dreadknight. Or annihilation barge and couple of acolytes in razorbacks.
In fact, Necrons could contribute a DLord (equipped as above), 6 Wraiths, and an Annihilation Barge.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/03 08:35:09
Subject: 1850 tournament list Grey Knights and Necrons
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Shunting Grey Knight Interceptor
Finland
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necronsftw wrote:My only problem with the NDK incinerators is why? if they are footslogging and do not have the teleporters? in addition why the swap for Coteaz sure it is cheaper but is it really needed and I am losing the extra psycannon.
Psycannon is blast, and incinerator has torrent, incinerator is cheaper, teleporter isnt worth 75p. With average rolls incinerator kills more than psycannon.
Coteaz gives you cheap troops, 2 rolls on divination, wannabe-interceptor and makes sure you wont be seized (Unless your opponent is a dice god).
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2013 Wins/Losses in Tournaments
Necrons (with various allies ): 9/3 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/03 17:45:58
Subject: 1850 tournament list Grey Knights and Necrons
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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imho, you need teleporters on the NDK. They are much better with the teleport. Standard loadout for me is Incinerator, Teleporter, Sword.
With your list, I would suggest your current ally list plus an Anni Barge. It is excellent value and with AV13 is pretty hard to kill - sure it may die T1, but they'd be focussing pretty hard on it.
The main thing you seem to want from the allies is mobile scoring. Having the Warriors in scythes enables you to change one of the GKSS for interceptors and still keep the abllity to claim objectives late game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/05 16:15:38
Subject: 1850 tournament list Grey Knights and Necrons
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant
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So does this mean no to the stormraven?
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Same list, different army
6th Edition W 32 L 7 D:3 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/05 18:27:30
Subject: 1850 tournament list Grey Knights and Necrons
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Why no stormraven? You can fit it in, even if you only put teleports on 1 NDK.
What are you going to put in it though?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/06 01:54:01
Subject: 1850 tournament list Grey Knights and Necrons
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant
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I was going to get a stormraven and a strike squad as I feel I am a bit low on troops.
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Same list, different army
6th Edition W 32 L 7 D:3 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/06 02:02:32
Subject: 1850 tournament list Grey Knights and Necrons
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Psychic Novitiate selected by a Gatherer
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As the bases of the greyknight / necron I also use the 2 night scythes but I also add a doom scythe so now you have 3 scythes and a str 10 beam.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/06 03:24:08
Subject: 1850 tournament list Grey Knights and Necrons
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant
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What do you use for as the grey knights, if thats what you use as the allies. In other words what list do you use ?
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6th Edition W 32 L 7 D:3 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/06 05:09:18
Subject: 1850 tournament list Grey Knights and Necrons
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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Here's the list I saw in a recent tournament:
2x Termie Inq, Psycan, Divination
2x 10 GKSS, 2 psycan, psybolts
2x StormRaven, hurricane bolters
3x DKnights, heavy incin, 1w/ sword+teleport
Replace one StormRaven and one DKnight with your Necron allies. Take 2-3 Necron flyers. You'll have four troops, which seems like enough--especially considering the mobility of the Necron troops.
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LVO 2017 - Best GK Player
The Grimdark Future 8500 1500  6000 2000 5000
"[We have] an inheritance which is beyond the reach of change and decay." 1 Peter 1.4
"With the Emperor there is no variation or shadow due to change." James 1.17
“Fear the Emperor; do not associate with those who are given to change.” Proverbs 24.21 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/06 14:54:05
Subject: 1850 tournament list Grey Knights and Necrons
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant
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That looks pretty good, though my other thoughts are what ablut allying with either Tau or Eldar could the synergy be better, if sovwhat would I take in place of necrons?
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6th Edition W 32 L 7 D:3 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/09 03:50:13
Subject: 1850 tournament list Grey Knights and Necrons
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant
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Anythoughts ?
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6th Edition W 32 L 7 D:3 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/09 04:47:23
Subject: 1850 tournament list Grey Knights and Necrons
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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Really, "synergy" only works with Battle Bros. GK has none, thus no synergy.
There are a few weak spots in the GK, though--namely, mobile troops. Rhinos get blown away, stranding their passengers. DS a GKSS/Termies means they're not getting to shoot while in reserve. Not shooting is bad for GK. You could get scoring GKI or DKnight w/ teleport, but you don't have/want a GM.
I think the Necron flyers will give you the mobility you need. Move 36" and deploy troops on T5 to contest/control is pretty great.
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LVO 2017 - Best GK Player
The Grimdark Future 8500 1500  6000 2000 5000
"[We have] an inheritance which is beyond the reach of change and decay." 1 Peter 1.4
"With the Emperor there is no variation or shadow due to change." James 1.17
“Fear the Emperor; do not associate with those who are given to change.” Proverbs 24.21 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/10 22:40:43
Subject: 1850 tournament list Grey Knights and Necrons
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant
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So in the above list what exactly should I take?
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Same list, different army
6th Edition W 32 L 7 D:3 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/11 05:03:04
Subject: 1850 tournament list Grey Knights and Necrons
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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If we're going with your OP list...
Swap the H.psycannons for H.incins on the DKnights.
Take another DKnight with the same loadout.
Take a Vindicare and an ADL with Lascannon.
That's 1840. Give the Overlord a bit of equipment?
Put Vindi on the Lascannon to Deadshot HQ on T1 for Instant Death. March DKnights forward down centre field. You'll most definitely lose one, but the other two will wreck face. Have GKSS camp objectives; the enemy will be busy dealing with DKs. Have Necrons swoop in to contest enemy objectives.
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LVO 2017 - Best GK Player
The Grimdark Future 8500 1500  6000 2000 5000
"[We have] an inheritance which is beyond the reach of change and decay." 1 Peter 1.4
"With the Emperor there is no variation or shadow due to change." James 1.17
“Fear the Emperor; do not associate with those who are given to change.” Proverbs 24.21 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/11 15:58:37
Subject: 1850 tournament list Grey Knights and Necrons
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant
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2xInquisitor Terminator Armor divination psycannon 110 (220)
2x X10 GKSS x2 Psycannon psyammo demon hammer 250 (500)
X6 GKSS demonhammer psycannon 140pts
3x Nemesis Dreadknight Heavy Incinerator 160 (480)
Options:
A. 2x Stormravens twin linked multimelta, twinlinked assault cannon psyammo hurricane bolters 255 (510)
B. Necron lord warscythe 100pts
2x X5 warriors night scythe 165(330)
I.Drop a demonhammer and take an annihilation barge 90pts
II. Or take great swords on dreadknigts.
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I do like that idea of the assassin and defence line, that is clever.
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