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Now can you use fateweaver re roll while he is in reserve?, only thing i found while looking is you count as being destroyed if at the end of the game he is in reserve nothing about any abliites.

Whats the precedent like, can imohtek use his lightening attacks while he is in reserve?, any other comparsions out there?.

Also a thing to note, I have seen this mentioned a few times but you cannot use fateweavers re roll to re roll one die from the warpstorm table and then re roll the other die if you dont get what you want.

Does it say "while he's alive" or "while he's on the table"?

Being in reserves is horribly undefined. They spend so much ink on who and how many can be in it, they forgot to mention what to do with the models that are there.

Strictly RAW speaking, you still have permission to move, You have permission to shoot (and there are precedents for using wargear) so then you can assault as well for that matter.

so discuss it ahead of time with your opponent or TO.

 juraigamer wrote:
Does it say "while he's alive" or "while he's on the table"?

While he is alive.

Then as other abilities like Hive COmmander, which is also "while alive", work, so should this.

Bump, any other insight would be helpful have had a few other people question it.

I have established warlord traits work while in reserve. Fateys re roll while he is alive is granted by wargear, would this affect it?, I cannot find anything that says it would but I have a feeling this was from a old edition?.

Again - the qualifier is "while alive". Are yo alive while in reserves?

nosferatu1001 wrote:
Again - the qualifier is "while alive". Are yo alive while in reserves?

When the game ends you're not, but otherwise yes.

Nos, I do totally agree but a few people have argued the point and I havent got a conrete rule either way. I do believe I can do it as like you said and Raven said you are only counted as being killed/destroyed for victory/kill pt purposes when the game ends.

As I plan to use this quite a bit in a tourny list it would be a killer for someone to say heres this rule that says you cannot use the re roll while in reserve. I dont think there is one though but more then likey someone will argue the point and get a ref over I would like to be in the best position to say heres x x x x and x nothing restricts it etc.

I plan on using scriers gaze to keep fatey off the board so yes it could become important.

How about astropaths for IG, they are used while off the table. Have you checked their FAQ?

Logans High King rule explicitly works when he turns up from reserves

Nothing in the guard FAQ I could find, I was mainly looking for imotheks lightening, is that used while he is in reserve?,

Logans high king FAQ just lets him get around the start of turn /reserves thing.

MarkyMark wrote:
Nos, I do totally agree but a few people have argued the point and I havent got a conrete rule either way. I do believe I can do it as like you said and Raven said you are only counted as being killed/destroyed for victory/kill pt purposes when the game ends.

You have permission to reroll a die. Someone has to find a way to remove that permission.

As I plan to use this quite a bit in a tourny list it would be a killer for someone to say heres this rule that says you cannot use the re roll while in reserve. I dont think there is one though but more then likey someone will argue the point and get a ref over I would like to be in the best position to say heres x x x x and x nothing restricts it etc.

Clarify with the TO prior to the first match. If you have a tactic that relies on rules that people disagree with, it's the best thing to do.
While setting up armies, let your opponent know the rule, let him know you've talked to the judge, and have him come over then - it's rare that judges are busy in the first couple minutes of a round.

The staff does not say while alive, that statement in the warp storm table result. The staffs re roll does NOT state while alive or on the table. Just the rules on when and how the staff works.

Lungpickle wrote:
The staff does not say while alive, that statement in the warp storm table result. The staffs re roll does NOT state while alive or on the table. Just the rules on when and how the staff works.

Right - so the staff gives him the re-roll.
Find denial.