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Made in us
Stealthy Grot Snipa






New England

Dear Dakka,

I was born, raised, and thrived at 1500 point games. I only played 1500 points EVER. I love 1500 points, it gives me access to anything I want while remaining reasonable. Problem is though, recently I only ever have time for maybe half of a game. So this is where you come in Dakka. I have been scratching my head trying to figure out 750 points with orkz. I know all the basics and everything, but I hardly know how to crank down and slim up. What are things to know in 750 points that I should be aware of? Be it necessities, dangers, and added spice.

I have here a list that I quickly came up with within 15 minutes, how close is this to being near acceptable? I want competitive, since I can easily find ways to make my list fun. Oh, and cut down on greentide, I used to only do that until this year. I do not know how long I need to recover before I will even think about doing that again for another 7-8 year streak.

Koptas TAC?
Spoiler:
Warboss w/ pk, cybork-95
15 Lootas - 225
17 Shootaboys, nob w/ bosspole, big choppa-128
17 Shootaboys, nob w/ bosspole, big choppa-128
10 Grots, Runtherd-40
3 Deffkopta w/ rokkits-135
-748


Battlewagon Rush
Spoiler:
Big Mek w/ KFF -85
15 Lootas - 225
17 Shootaboys, nob w/ bosspole, big choppa-128
17 Shootaboys, nob w/ bosspole, big choppa-128
2 Battlewagons-180
-746


Artillery/Gunline
Spoiler:
Big Mek w/ KFF -85
15 Lootas - 225
17 Shootaboys, nob w/ bosspole, big choppa-128
17 Shootaboys, nob w/ bosspole, big choppa-128
x3 3 Gun krews w/ kannons-180
-746


Death Star
Spoiler:
Warboss w/ bike, pk-135
4 Nobz, painboy w/ 2 pks, bosspole-285
10 grots, runtherd
x2 10 lootas-300


Any thoughts on these lists or other lists?

   
Made in us
Major




Fortress of Solitude

I like the Battlewagon list. At that point level, few will be able to deal with all that AV 14.

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Made in us
Stealthy Grot Snipa






New England

Alright, I figured everyone would like the AV14 spam, but what about the other ones?

   
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Fresh-Faced New User




Love bikers...they are just fast and in your face. I run a similar list, but run 1 squad of 10 lootas, a dakkajet and only 1 nob with a PK.
   
Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut






Madison, WI

Koptas aren't particularly good in this edition.

Gunline is OK though a bit limited with only 2 troops.

Death Star really isn't.

Find the points to give your battlewagons deffrollas and big shootas. It's by far the best/most focused list you've presented and the only list that has any possibility of dealing with AV-14.

Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."

Gitsplitta's Unified Painting Theory
 
   
Made in us
Stealthy Grot Snipa






New England

If I had the few extra models I would alter the Nob biker list to:

Warboss w/ bike, pk, cybork-135
4 Nobz, painboy w/ 2 pks, bosspole-285
4 Nobz, painboy w/ 2 pks, bosspole-285
Deffkopta w/ rokkits
-750
This list is focused on rushing the enemy with all that dakka and pks.

The deffkopta's main purpose is to outflank with the warboss and catch the enemy off guard which is too focused on stopping two mobs of nob bikers.

If for some reason the boss does not want to outflank I would either use the kopta as a weapon platform or ourflank it on its own. (Though it really reduces the point of having it I think as it is much too fragile on its own.)
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-The kopta list was not really on my list of options, it was more of an attempt to fish for kopta advice.

-Gunline I cannot do anyways I have lack of "kannons" at the moment

The two lists I am mainly looking at are the nob bikers and the battlewagon rush. Battlewagons for obvious reasons and bikers because I would like to focus on them a lot after I finish their big conversions.

   
Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut






Madison, WI

Second biker list would be tough at that point value. In my experience, nob biker lists either work brilliantly... or they fail utterly... but I think they work more often than they fail.

Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."

Gitsplitta's Unified Painting Theory
 
   
Made in us
Stealthy Grot Snipa






New England

Ah, and where would orkz be without the mind set of win big or get a grot down the throat. (Even that could be a good thing)

I like the risk factor. The list intrigues me, it puts all the cookies on one plate, but these cookies are the kind that you expect to see ONE in a 1500 point list. Two in a 750 is madness. Then again those lists also sport artillery and such, but who's talking anyways?

   
Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut






Madison, WI

*chuckle* You've got the idea man... run with it!

Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."

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