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Greetings mortals. I have come up with rules for the infamous necron c'tan Void Dragon. Please comment and give suggestions.

(I am using the old necron 3rd edition codex, so use the C'tan rules for it)

Mag'ladroth The Void Dragon

WS BS S T W I A Ld Sv
7 4 10 8 5 5 5 10 - (4+ inv.)

Unit Composition: 1

Wargear: None

Unit Type: Monstrous Creature

Special Rules:

Embodiment of Devastation: As he is the most powerful of all the C'tan, his Necron warriors are gifted special enhancements to their armor. To represent this, all Necron Warrior, Immortals, and Wraith units in his army may be given Lightning Fields, for 35 pts a unit.

Molder of The Material Realm: Mag'ladroth can bend, crack, heat, chill, or throw, nearby matter. Mag'ladroth gains a ranged attack using the following profile:
Range Strength AP Type
36" 2D6 (11 or 12 counts as 10 + Instant death) D6 Assault 2

Supreme Harvester of Life: Mag'ladroth has consumed the essence of millions of souls and the pure energy of billions of stars, and if need comes, he may empty a fraction of this power against his foe. This is a shooting attack using the following profile:
Range Strength AP Type
24" 6 4 Assault 1, Blast

Supreme Harvester of Technology: Mag'ladroth is a master of power and technology and can destroy nearby machines at will. To use this power, take a Ld test, if he passes it, roll a D6. On a 5+, the target vehicle thats at least 18" close, loses 1 HP.

Living Singularity: The sheer power of this C'tan disrupts gravity and causes nearby foes or friends to be crushed if they are not careful enough. Any models (friend or foe) within 6" of Mag'ladroth count as being in Dangerous Terrain.

POINTS: ??????? IS IT FAIR?????? HELP PLEASE

I'll leave the pointing out to others, but I do have a few editorial comments for your consideration.

If he has a 4+ invul, the 4+ armor is completely superfluous. I'd just get rid of it, it's not adding anything for ya.

Molder of the Material Realm: This is fine, though I would tweak it slightly. Instead of a max S of 10 for the shot, just make rolls of 11 or 12 for the S give it some other attribute, such as Instant Death, Ignores Cover, or give it a blast profile. AP I'd just make a straight D6.

Supreme Harvester: This attack seems pretty weak actually, I'd completely drop Hazardous from it.

Thanks, Ill edit that.

Supreme Harvester could be Large Blast with rending. Where is his 4+ invuln coming from? In 6e, armor stats are usually represented by wargear or a special rule.

I'd place him around 300-325 points. He's pretty beastly in CC, and T8 with a 4++ makes him dangerous to engage at any level. (What type of unit is he? Monstrous Creature I'd assume - riptide sized )

Yes. He is a monstrous creature. He gets the invul save from the Necrodermis in the 3rd edition neuron codex.


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Yes. He is a monstrous creature. He gets the invul save from the Necrodermis in the 3rd edition neuron codex.

Change it to be clearer. Not everyone plays the 3rd ed codex, and most rather not go back to it.

Change what. all I wanna know is if this is unfair or, what points it should be.

I would say make it have something similar to Anrakyr's MitM, after all he is the basis of all the Imperium's technology.

Something like this:
Harvested for Technology: The void dragon may attempt to pull the power out of Imperial vehicles. Take a Ld test. If passed, roll a D6 On the roll of a 4+, the targetted vehicle looses D3 hull points. If the vehicle has PotMS, the roll is improved to a 3+ for it to work

As for points, 300-350 (at a push)

EDIT: Also, I would like to ask if I may steal this idea and place it in my small fandex/supplement/whatever you care to call it

Credits to you of course

Sure. Just make sure to send me the fandex when your done! Also, is 40 pts per unit to much or too little for the lightning field upgrade.


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Sure. Just make sure to send me the fandex when your done ! Also, is 40 pts per unit to much or too little for the lightning field upgrade.


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I was thinking like 400 points. Too much?

 Hadarac wrote:
Change what. all I wanna know is if this is unfair or, what points it should be.

I was talking about the invulnerable.

For example: Necrodermis: Mag'ladroth is contained within a shell of shifting metal, that phases in and out of reality. This confers to him a 4+ invulnerable save and a 4+ armor save. In addition, poison weapons must use their strength when wounding him, or require a 6+ to wound if no strength is available.

400 pts?

Yeah, that seems pretty good.

Ok. Thats swell.


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Actually I feel like it should be 380 pts. He is only a bit better in cc than the Nightbringer and his ranged attacks are not as good.

 IHateNids wrote:
I would say make it have something similar to Anrakyr's MitM, after all he is the basis of all the Imperium's technology.

Something like this:
Harvested for Technology: The void dragon may attempt to pull the power out of Imperial vehicles. Take a Ld test. If passed, roll a D6 On the roll of a 4+, the targetted vehicle looses D3 hull points. If the vehicle has PotMS, the roll is improved to a 3+ for it to work

As for points, 300-350 (at a push)

EDIT: Also, I would like to ask if I may steal this idea and place it in my small fandex/supplement/whatever you care to call it

Credits to you of course

Not sure about the d3, nor really about the 1 instant HP loss, do you really need that anyway given 'crons are very good anti armour anyway?

To be honest though, with the 1 HP loss and the stats I think he is quite well balanced depending on what final cost you add to it, but 350 region sounds about right

The C'tan at their full power could destroy solar systems with black holes and blow up stars.

So the only rule it should have is

"I win"

The C'tan detonates the sun of the system the game is taking place in or devours the planet with a black hole, automatically bringing victory to the Necron player.

HAHA. Very true.

Bearing in ind, the Void Dragon has been sapped of energy for the better part of 20000 years, so Im sure it wont quite be able to wake up and destroy half the galaxy

 Hadarac wrote:
As he is the most powerful of all the C'tan,

When C'tan existed, which they no longer do, that was the Nightbringer.

Nope. The Void Dragon is and always was the most powerful C'tan.

 DarknessEternal wrote:

 Hadarac wrote:
As he is the most powerful of all the C'tan,

When C'tan existed, which they no longer do, that was the Nightbringer.

Literally everything written on this topic says the Void Dragon was the one C'tan to rule them all.

Nightbringer's just the one who ate most of the other C'tan.