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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 00:09:42
Subject: My scratch build discussion - LS Marine in works
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I hope it turns out guys!
But I want a clear idea of it before I get into it. Automatically Appended Next Post: Automatically Appended Next Post:
Okay I know this is covered in random doodles..
But this is closer to what I'm meaning.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/04/18 00:55:59
FOR THE ALLFATHER!!!! (Oh, the Emperor guy too...)
lone dirty dog wrote:Yes, build it and they will come ……. Who I don't know and you probably wouldn't want them any way.
Ahh Rivets! -Is there nothing they can't solve? - dsteingass -- It will last longer with rivets..... - you, guys are worse than my children...... - mxwllmdr
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 08:53:14
Subject: My scratch build discussion - LS Marine in works
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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to get the better recognizable SM look i would alter the shoulderpads acordingly...those are pretty iconic for the look...
the torso and abs look very good tho...
the random doodles...wonky mixture...one resembles a david star? and the other one i wont name  might get you into trouble...
the new knight sketches tho are a giant leap in the right direction...well if i was the maker^^ as the assault gun will be one of my favoriote choices for weaponry for all time^^, also the head looks way better now..i like those rimssections specifically the best...with all those rivets! but this will be tricky to build i guess or do you have a clever plan? i hope so...because consider it then nicked^^
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 14:11:02
Subject: My scratch build discussion - LS Marine in works
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Oh Vik! I didn't even think that that looked like that...
Boo. Now thats all I can see....
I thought that it looked like a cool storm shield design....
I will look into redesigning the shoulder pads for the space marine...
I love the assult cannon! Who wouldn't love mowing down rows of infantry with those?
Thanks for the complement on the titan head!
Although I am confused on how you think the head would be hard to do. I think that it will be just as hard as the rest of the beast!
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FOR THE ALLFATHER!!!! (Oh, the Emperor guy too...)
lone dirty dog wrote:Yes, build it and they will come ……. Who I don't know and you probably wouldn't want them any way.
Ahh Rivets! -Is there nothing they can't solve? - dsteingass -- It will last longer with rivets..... - you, guys are worse than my children...... - mxwllmdr
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 14:25:02
Subject: My scratch build discussion - LS Marine in works
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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Silver, there are several classes of knights. This is the information I am using to create the model set:
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Knight
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You are waaaaay beyond crazy my friend -DSteingass
Yes, everything that changes the entire fething world is overrated..... - DSteingass
...yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose..Viktor Von Domm
...they put Space Marines in tin cans and drop them from orbit, I don't think fuel consumption or aerodynamics is a concern - DSteingass
I think once again my motormouth has brought me into deep... - Viktor Von Domm
he knows no pain...nor fear, he is a riveteer - Viktor Von Domm
We don't do generic, mainstream, normal, or anything of the sort! ^^ - Shrike
You build fething Titans Henry Ford style Max!! - DSteingass
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 14:34:47
Subject: My scratch build discussion - LS Marine in works
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Thanks Max!
This is emensly helpful!
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FOR THE ALLFATHER!!!! (Oh, the Emperor guy too...)
lone dirty dog wrote:Yes, build it and they will come ……. Who I don't know and you probably wouldn't want them any way.
Ahh Rivets! -Is there nothing they can't solve? - dsteingass -- It will last longer with rivets..... - you, guys are worse than my children...... - mxwllmdr
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 15:11:03
Subject: My scratch build discussion - LS Marine in works
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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You have planned a good amount of rivets...this pleases me.
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 18:23:50
Subject: My scratch build discussion - LS Marine in works
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I am glad to have pleased you Dave.
I have been to the hobbie store. And that pleases me. To no end.
It is better then santa's workshop...
So I got a haul! But with no camera comes the lack of haul pic's which makes me unhappy...
I will however say what I did get:
Hobbie saw & miter set from zona
4oz. Milliput
1/4 & 5/16 square plastic tube from evergreen
Armmature wire!
And some new sketch pens.
This all means that the Space Marine can start! Woot!
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FOR THE ALLFATHER!!!! (Oh, the Emperor guy too...)
lone dirty dog wrote:Yes, build it and they will come ……. Who I don't know and you probably wouldn't want them any way.
Ahh Rivets! -Is there nothing they can't solve? - dsteingass -- It will last longer with rivets..... - you, guys are worse than my children...... - mxwllmdr
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 22:00:42
Subject: My scratch build discussion - LS Marine in works
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hey mate... don´t feel bad about the above mentioned sketch...that shape somehow creeps inside us all too often... i had while plaing with the kids with lego oh so often built this shape out of bricks... somehow it is very easy to enfd up with it...
i thought the head to be difficult because of the riveted up bands... how i would aproach this i woul use "L" shaped rods of PC and this would hamper me no end... because sometimes i make myself more problems in designing than is needed^^
the hobby saw will be your next new friend... i bought me recently a micro saw and i enjoyed every cut i did with it...thse thingies saw in both directions with ease... something that really helps to get clean cuts on a very small scale!
I love the assult cannon! Who wouldn't love mowing down rows of infantry with those?
QFT!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 23:59:25
Subject: My scratch build discussion - LS Marine in works
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I think it's that it feels good simitry wise. It has balance and flow. And alot of bad associated with it...
As for the head I plan to make the base squareish shape and then to add thin strips of plasticard to it along the seams to simulate strapping and then glue the rivets to that.
It already is a very nice friend.
Assembily of the frame for the space marine is underway. I just have to wait for the putty do harden so that the rest of it can be formed.
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FOR THE ALLFATHER!!!! (Oh, the Emperor guy too...)
lone dirty dog wrote:Yes, build it and they will come ……. Who I don't know and you probably wouldn't want them any way.
Ahh Rivets! -Is there nothing they can't solve? - dsteingass -- It will last longer with rivets..... - you, guys are worse than my children...... - mxwllmdr
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/19 00:12:36
Subject: My scratch build discussion - LS Marine in works
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Excellent work
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/19 04:03:54
Subject: My scratch build discussion - LS Marine in works
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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If you can get this done. I am wondering what sort of posing it will have? I think it would make excellent statuesque scenery for a table......
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You are waaaaay beyond crazy my friend -DSteingass
Yes, everything that changes the entire fething world is overrated..... - DSteingass
...yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose..Viktor Von Domm
...they put Space Marines in tin cans and drop them from orbit, I don't think fuel consumption or aerodynamics is a concern - DSteingass
I think once again my motormouth has brought me into deep... - Viktor Von Domm
he knows no pain...nor fear, he is a riveteer - Viktor Von Domm
We don't do generic, mainstream, normal, or anything of the sort! ^^ - Shrike
You build fething Titans Henry Ford style Max!! - DSteingass
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/19 07:40:14
Subject: My scratch build discussion - LS Marine in works
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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i think that is a good idea max! what will he be wielding?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/19 15:10:11
Subject: My scratch build discussion - LS Marine in works
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I hadn't given a lot of thought to what he would carry...
hmmm...
I don't want it to be to standard. Nor to complicated. He's just going to be in a standing pose and if I like how he turns out I'm going to make another in a more action pose.
What type of weapons do you guy's think?
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FOR THE ALLFATHER!!!! (Oh, the Emperor guy too...)
lone dirty dog wrote:Yes, build it and they will come ……. Who I don't know and you probably wouldn't want them any way.
Ahh Rivets! -Is there nothing they can't solve? - dsteingass -- It will last longer with rivets..... - you, guys are worse than my children...... - mxwllmdr
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/19 22:25:51
Subject: My scratch build.... The -=L,=- rambling thread... - LS Marine in works
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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well...
you could go down this road:
or you let him lend on a really bit hammer... heads up his arms resting on the hammers head just as he would be doing if he had finished a huge battle...maybe later on you could add some orkheads on the base...slain enemies and so on...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/19 22:53:14
Subject: My scratch build.... The -=L,=- rambling thread... - LS Marine in works
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Thanks Vik that was what I was starting to invision!
That really helps to clear it up in my head!
Although mine might be alittle tall. But we can see when he's done.
What about a hammer resting on his shoulder and shield in hand? Or Hammer and bolt pistol? Or... Something else?
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FOR THE ALLFATHER!!!! (Oh, the Emperor guy too...)
lone dirty dog wrote:Yes, build it and they will come ……. Who I don't know and you probably wouldn't want them any way.
Ahh Rivets! -Is there nothing they can't solve? - dsteingass -- It will last longer with rivets..... - you, guys are worse than my children...... - mxwllmdr
My P&M Blog/-=L=- Discussion |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/19 23:02:38
Subject: My scratch build.... The -=L,=- rambling thread... - LS Marine in works
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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well...if you have a statue look in mind... i think some weapons or rather poses with these are out of option here... i think the pose should look like he is either praying, cheering, contemplating, resting, musing, or downright stiking an enemy...like st greorge that slayed the dragon... so a bolter i think is too heavy looking... boltpistol would work... but the pose then is key... shield and either sword or hammer/mace would also need a special pose...currently i am at a loss to these tho... for me the hammer is best... a nice two handed one... but that is totally my idea and yours should be your own...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/19 23:08:49
Subject: My scratch build.... The -=L,=- rambling thread... - LS Marine in works
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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"Does an Ork shiiiit green?" "...Rogue! -you rock!" "Damn you too Rogue!""[TTFN]... That means tittyfething right?""Yep, that's me, a two-dollar whore"-Dsteingass
"... but if we all fail together we can make it look like we´ve won actually.." "...to all killers out there...: my face will hit your fist so hard it´s gonna bleed...your fist that is...""lol....OMG... you are a serial""he knows no pain...nor fear^^ he is a riveteer""yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose...""er... emailsex... now that at least sounds like the perfect safer sex... but i like mine a bit more...wet""do you know what they call a quarter pounder of a buckte full of rivets in france?" "No...what?" "Rivitz royal"-Viktor von Domm
" I expected to hear gak like that from RW, not you Vik... for shame Sir, for shame"-AnUnearthlyChilde
"We are Vik's private collection of muses for the monkey on his back.....""you, guys are worse than my children......"-mxwllmdr
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/20 02:15:32
Subject: My scratch build.... The -=L,=- rambling thread... - LS Marine in works
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What about a general feel?
As if he's standing on a battle feild holding out his weapon like he's pointing directing troops or issueing a challange to an enemy?
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FOR THE ALLFATHER!!!! (Oh, the Emperor guy too...)
lone dirty dog wrote:Yes, build it and they will come ……. Who I don't know and you probably wouldn't want them any way.
Ahh Rivets! -Is there nothing they can't solve? - dsteingass -- It will last longer with rivets..... - you, guys are worse than my children...... - mxwllmdr
My P&M Blog/-=L=- Discussion |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/20 02:46:06
Subject: My scratch build.... The -=L,=- rambling thread... - LS Marine in works
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
California + Philidelphia
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^that could work, but if your going for general, is he going to be standing flat on both feet, or with one elevated on a rock or somthing, and pointing his weapon out?
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"Don't worry, Vik! You have all of your internet friends to keep you company! And, as everyone knows, internet friends are at least one step above imaginary friends "-Rawson
"Does an Ork shiiiit green?" "...Rogue! -you rock!" "Damn you too Rogue!""[TTFN]... That means tittyfething right?""Yep, that's me, a two-dollar whore"-Dsteingass
"... but if we all fail together we can make it look like we´ve won actually.." "...to all killers out there...: my face will hit your fist so hard it´s gonna bleed...your fist that is...""lol....OMG... you are a serial""he knows no pain...nor fear^^ he is a riveteer""yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose...""er... emailsex... now that at least sounds like the perfect safer sex... but i like mine a bit more...wet""do you know what they call a quarter pounder of a buckte full of rivets in france?" "No...what?" "Rivitz royal"-Viktor von Domm
" I expected to hear gak like that from RW, not you Vik... for shame Sir, for shame"-AnUnearthlyChilde
"We are Vik's private collection of muses for the monkey on his back.....""you, guys are worse than my children......"-mxwllmdr
"Singling one out as odd in a =][_= thread is like going into an asylum, pointing at someone at random and saying "that person's insane""-Shrike |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/20 08:06:51
Subject: My scratch build.... The -=L,=- rambling thread... - LS Marine in works
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SilverHayabusa wrote:What about a general feel?
As if he's standing on a battle feild holding out his weapon like he's pointing directing troops or issueing a challange to an enemy?
Rogue Wolves wrote:^that could work, but if your going for general, is he going to be standing flat on both feet, or with one elevated on a rock or somthing, and pointing his weapon out?
those two thoughts...mixém together and do a sketch mate!! i think there is win inside that idea! the pointing arm tho means you need to sculpt a power fist on him for sure...otherwise it would look too skinny for a statuesque gesture...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/20 11:57:09
Subject: My scratch build.... The -=L,=- rambling thread... - LS Marine in works
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Rogue Wolves wrote:^that could work, but if your going for general, is he going to be standing flat on both feet, or with one elevated on a rock or somthing, and pointing his weapon out?
I just had a very Captain Morgan moment.....
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You are waaaaay beyond crazy my friend -DSteingass
Yes, everything that changes the entire fething world is overrated..... - DSteingass
...yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose..Viktor Von Domm
...they put Space Marines in tin cans and drop them from orbit, I don't think fuel consumption or aerodynamics is a concern - DSteingass
I think once again my motormouth has brought me into deep... - Viktor Von Domm
he knows no pain...nor fear, he is a riveteer - Viktor Von Domm
We don't do generic, mainstream, normal, or anything of the sort! ^^ - Shrike
You build fething Titans Henry Ford style Max!! - DSteingass
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/20 13:26:43
Subject: My scratch build.... The -=L,=- rambling thread... - LS Marine in works
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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LOL...yeah right^^
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/20 16:40:12
Subject: My scratch build.... The -=L,=- rambling thread... - LS Marine in works
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He's going to have to be standing flat on the ground since thats how I have the armmature strapped down....
How do power fists work again? Is it on the free hand? The one with the weapon? Or both?
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FOR THE ALLFATHER!!!! (Oh, the Emperor guy too...)
lone dirty dog wrote:Yes, build it and they will come ……. Who I don't know and you probably wouldn't want them any way.
Ahh Rivets! -Is there nothing they can't solve? - dsteingass -- It will last longer with rivets..... - you, guys are worse than my children...... - mxwllmdr
My P&M Blog/-=L=- Discussion |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/20 16:55:00
Subject: My scratch build.... The -=L,=- rambling thread... - LS Marine in works
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I don't think you can hold a weapon in the same hand as a power fist....
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/20 16:56:21
Subject: My scratch build.... The -=L,=- rambling thread... - LS Marine in works
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Yea.. I didn't think that you could. Just was unsure..
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FOR THE ALLFATHER!!!! (Oh, the Emperor guy too...)
lone dirty dog wrote:Yes, build it and they will come ……. Who I don't know and you probably wouldn't want them any way.
Ahh Rivets! -Is there nothing they can't solve? - dsteingass -- It will last longer with rivets..... - you, guys are worse than my children...... - mxwllmdr
My P&M Blog/-=L=- Discussion |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/20 17:41:16
Subject: My scratch build.... The -=L,=- rambling thread... - LS Marine in works
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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mxwllmdr wrote:Rogue Wolves wrote:^that could work, but if your going for general, is he going to be standing flat on both feet, or with one elevated on a rock or somthing, and pointing his weapon out?
I just had a very Captain Morgan moment.....
Who says he wasnt the idea??? And who says ??
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"Don't worry, Vik! You have all of your internet friends to keep you company! And, as everyone knows, internet friends are at least one step above imaginary friends "-Rawson
"Does an Ork shiiiit green?" "...Rogue! -you rock!" "Damn you too Rogue!""[TTFN]... That means tittyfething right?""Yep, that's me, a two-dollar whore"-Dsteingass
"... but if we all fail together we can make it look like we´ve won actually.." "...to all killers out there...: my face will hit your fist so hard it´s gonna bleed...your fist that is...""lol....OMG... you are a serial""he knows no pain...nor fear^^ he is a riveteer""yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose...""er... emailsex... now that at least sounds like the perfect safer sex... but i like mine a bit more...wet""do you know what they call a quarter pounder of a buckte full of rivets in france?" "No...what?" "Rivitz royal"-Viktor von Domm
" I expected to hear gak like that from RW, not you Vik... for shame Sir, for shame"-AnUnearthlyChilde
"We are Vik's private collection of muses for the monkey on his back.....""you, guys are worse than my children......"-mxwllmdr
"Singling one out as odd in a =][_= thread is like going into an asylum, pointing at someone at random and saying "that person's insane""-Shrike |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/20 18:49:36
Subject: My scratch build.... The -=L,=- rambling thread... - LS Marine in works
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Okay so since I'm still trying to get a camera type situation set up at the moment I thought that I should post a verbal update on the progress that I have been making thus far.
Firstly it's going slower then I would like it to since this armature is far larger then what I am used to making and much more complicated because he has built into him four removable parts. Both of his arms his head and his pack are removable for easier detailing and moulding in those hard to reach locations and althought I have the knowledge on how this works I have never done it before and am running into and fixing problems as they arise.
When assembiling the body of the armmature I got over excited to be working on it and thusly made the legs to long and didn't have the material to finish the torso so I had to splice the top to the bottom of the wires. However him having longer leg sections has given me the room to add a base to him for a more statue like apearance.
Another problem that I am facing is the milliput that I got at my local hobbie store is a pain to work with. It's the only putty that they had so it's what I got. It's alot crumblier then I thought it would be and doesn't make near as strong of a bond as I thought it would. So I have had to reattach and add inforcing to it in places.
I've formed the arms and the basics for the head and had to break and reconect the attachments so that he could be posed the way that I would like him to be. And wiring the hand was a pain in the butt but the right are is done and waiting for it to dry so that I can see how it worked out before I go onto the left hand and the frame for the pack.
Thats the report for now as I'm currently waiting for stuff to dry as always seems to be the case so we'll see what hapens next...
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FOR THE ALLFATHER!!!! (Oh, the Emperor guy too...)
lone dirty dog wrote:Yes, build it and they will come ……. Who I don't know and you probably wouldn't want them any way.
Ahh Rivets! -Is there nothing they can't solve? - dsteingass -- It will last longer with rivets..... - you, guys are worse than my children...... - mxwllmdr
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/20 18:54:43
Subject: My scratch build.... The -=L,=- rambling thread... - LS Marine in works
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actually i think i saw SM wield powerfists and use them to hold hammers and such stuff...but no fancy stuff like boltpistols...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/20 19:03:29
Subject: My scratch build.... The -=L,=- rambling thread... - LS Marine in works
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Do you have any photos?
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FOR THE ALLFATHER!!!! (Oh, the Emperor guy too...)
lone dirty dog wrote:Yes, build it and they will come ……. Who I don't know and you probably wouldn't want them any way.
Ahh Rivets! -Is there nothing they can't solve? - dsteingass -- It will last longer with rivets..... - you, guys are worse than my children...... - mxwllmdr
My P&M Blog/-=L=- Discussion |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/20 19:13:52
Subject: My scratch build.... The -=L,=- rambling thread... - LS Marine in works
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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hmmmm... not currently... i could look via goodle tho...
mom
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