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The MERCS crew finally answered my Not-Robocop Purchasing Question:

Alpharius
Mar 25, 2014

Hello!

Will we have the option to purchase additional copies of the "CPP 1 Corporate Police Prototype-1" miniature?

Thanks!

MERCS Miniatures
Mar 28, 2014

I am sorry, but no.

I guess they want some of the 'exclusives' to 'force' a min-$120 pledge, but I'm not sure if Not-Robo is as big an incentive to pledge as a Kingdom Death Crossover is!

 yamato wrote:
NDA's are standard practice for play testing of games in development. I've signed a few. (None MERCS related)

I've signed more than my share, both for gaming/play testing and on the job.

Just a fact of life, and smart business.

Well on the cusp of 350k. Will be interesting to see what the mystery SG is they will announce.

I'd love to see them tempt me back, because at this point I can't really muster any enthusiasm for this game.

What's putting the downer on it for you highlord.

Considering it is at beta stage it looks like it's shaping up pretty well & although I am still also on the fence I am getting closer to slipping off.

Maybe this new mystery SG could nudge me into action?

I don't think it is a mystery SG in that there will be some extra freebie that is given at $350,....

They've mentioned a release of a new backer# based SG, and some new mission pack add ons, maybe another set of pulp characters,.......

They say "we have a surprise at $350k" and everyone assumes that it is some awesome "free" stuff,....... Just setting ourselves up for disappointment.

I have now flicked my pessimism switch to shield me from emotional distress LOL.

I have never pledged on a KS. What is a backer based SG exactly compared to the normal one? Does it mean someone who has pledged has given some backdoor funding to produce a new SG? Sorry to be so ignorant on this.

 Chimaera wrote:
I have no flicked my pessimism switch to shield me from emotional distress LOL.

I have never pledged on a KS. What is a backer based SG exactly compared to the normal one? Does it mean someone who has pledged has given some backdoor funding to produce a new SG? Sorry to be so ignorant on this.

It is a stretch goal that is unlocked by meeting a certain number of backers instead of money. An example would be to unlock a chew toy for the dog when they get six million backers.

Thanks for that Ahtman.

So basically its a freebie driven on volume of backers, I understand now.

It will be interesting to see what it turns out to be and at least I can manage my expectations a little better now.

well here is a surprise.

I am really surprised they haven't hit 350k , I was sure they would by now....

Last weekend was pretty slow if I remember correctly. They've been generating less than 6k a day for a while.

Yes, but I was expecting even the mysterious, unsubscribed surprise to generate enough flow to move that small gap.

I think once the let it be known that the mystery was gonna be a 'pay to get' add on they killed the incentive to up your pledge to see what the surprise was.

They revealed that, or it is speculation?

From the KS comments:

One is a mission pack add-on and one is a backer number stretch goal...

We also are close to another set of cameo specials in the add-on.

I thought these were unrelated to 350k "surprise"

Can't they see they shoot themselves on the foot with the direction they chose?

 PsychoticStorm wrote:
I thought these were unrelated to 350k "surprise"

Can't they see they shoot themselves on the foot with the direction they chose?

Got to admit I am surprised it hasn't gone over 350k yet.

I have to concede I do quite like the bulk of the minis and will probably jump in for that reason alone but was hoping it would hit 500k to pick up a lot of the SG extra minis.

Could it be there are a lot like me, I am guessing so?

It's not just the amount of minis you get for $120 but the variety is also unusual. The VIP's, Scientists, Engineeers etc are quite unique and I like the look of the OPFOR guys and cameos. Even if the game was crud for the amount paid I could swallow it for the minis. I am sure I could put them to good use.

This shouldn't be a driving factor but it is for me.

What does the Mercs game play like? Could even go for OPFOR pledge if the feedback on Mercs TT was good. A 400 page rule book covering all the factions is also substantial. I understand there was a problem with the old book but this second edition should address all the factions which weren't in the 1st edition.

Wow, just glancing at their comments on the campaign, there's no way I'll back this. "Surly" is the word that comes to mind... sheesh.

I'm still watching it.

I hope it does blow up like the Myth KS.

We'll see.

What did they say that was surly?

Is that blow up in a good way or bad way?

Blow up as in, take off like the Myth KS did.

That mostly happened in the last couple days though.

 RiTides wrote:
Wow, just glancing at their comments on the campaign, there's no way I'll back this. "Surly" is the word that comes to mind... sheesh.

https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1700755582/comments

They don't seem surly to me. Maybe ....flat is a better term?

Out of interest how much in thousands did Myth jump over the last couple of days if you can remember.

I wouldn't class those comments as surly either. Just straight up and honest from what I can see.

 Chimaera wrote:
Out of interest how much in thousands did Myth jump over the last couple of days if you can remember.

I wouldn't class those comments as surly either. Just straight up and honest from what I can see.

The last two days it did like, half a million.

This one is leaving me feeling sad and a bit lukewarm. And as this and SDE are competing for my KS dollars for this month, I'm unfortunately having trouble getting excited about this right now :/

500k is substantial. Didn't realise that sort of action could happen in the last 2 days of a KS. Sort of makes me more optimistic Mercs Recon could hit 500k+ .

Was there a particular trigger for it or just a load of fence huggers like me getting off their butts.

Looking at what you get for $120 if it hits 500k almost feels like a no brainer.

Anyone out there with feedback on how Merc TT plays?

I guess this was the comment I had just read that lead me to that characterization:

Mercs Miniatures wrote:Here is a bit of an education on add-ons (it was to us as well). You can roughly gauge people buying add-ons to about 1/4 of the backers. It is that small. How do we know: we know because of the three BIG add-ons (Skald, Spriggan, IA) in Myth, not one was purchased by more than 1500 people. Most were much less. So judging stretch goals by deciding if people will "buy" them as an add-on is not a good way to decide things. So many of you are clamoring for more add-ons, but we must be careful. Simply put, we could get caught producing a high-priced add-on for less than 500 people. For instance, you know all the people shout for double-captains in Myth and how much we needed to allow it. We listened and allowed it.... less than 50 people did it.

I mean... you could say this all sorts of ways, but I dunno.

Not really a big deal, I guess, but I certainly wouldn't class their communication as "positive". Creator interaction is a pretty important part of KS campaigns... and one that should be easy to get right (imo).

Also note that I'd like this to succeed... but there are literally a half dozen campaigns I'd like to back right now, so every little bit counts.

Putting it straight down the line and not blowing smoke up anyones rear from what I see. I kind of like that honesty and enlightenment.

Even he said it was a learn for them also.

I am hoping some more minis will getting added for this 350k mystery backer SG.

Yeah, now that I see the context, it's not really a big deal. However, like I said, lots of fantastic campaigns going right now... so every little bit helps draw people in (or vice versa).

Chimaera wrote:Out of interest how much in thousands did Myth jump over the last couple of days if you can remember.

I wouldn't class those comments as surly either. Just straight up and honest from what I can see.

Azazelx wrote:

 RiTides wrote:
Wow, just glancing at their comments on the campaign, there's no way I'll back this. "Surly" is the word that comes to mind... sheesh.

https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1700755582/comments

They don't seem surly to me. Maybe ....flat is a better term?

I would say surly sometimes, flat others. Kind of deluded a lot of the time. It really depends on when a good idea fairy shows up, and the rabid mob descends upon him and his "common sense" idea. That's when they're surly. But I'm talking about the backers.

Mercs are still pretty much MIA, and unreadable for the most part. The updates guy seems kind of angry that they're not having a money-quake, and their computer isn't spitting out dollar bills from the "coffee cup holder".