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hi guys,

i recently got some stuff for my necron army, and i decided to make a destroyer body on warrior legs but with the two gauss cannons on both arms (ill post pic soon). im just wondering if im allowed to use him in games i play with other people (if not, doesn't matter i loved painting him).

thx, mrdarkmesa

A lot of people are sticklers about "armed as shown", where you can easily identify what a model is and what they're armed with by looking at them.

However, as long as you make it clear to your opponent what the model is supposed to represent, most people won't have a problem with it. Especially if it looks cool

Well, what is he supposed to count as? People won't care about conversions so long as they are clear, but if you make a random blob of parts people will be annoyed because they can't tell what it's supposed to be etc

 Von Chogg wrote:
Well, what is he supposed to count as? People won't care about conversions so long as they are clear, but if you make a random blob of parts people will be annoyed because they can't tell what it's supposed to be etc

I agree with Von.

If it's clear what you're trying to do with the mini, then cool. If you're slapping 2 lascannons and a missile launcher on a techmarine, then it gets really silly!

 kronk wrote:

 Von Chogg wrote:
Well, what is he supposed to count as? People won't care about conversions so long as they are clear, but if you make a random blob of parts people will be annoyed because they can't tell what it's supposed to be etc

I agree with Von.

If it's clear what you're trying to do with the mini, then cool. If you're slapping 2 lascannons and a missile launcher on a techmarine, then it gets really silly!

A techmarine with a servo harness holding those weapons would make an awesome counts as dreadnought you would have to beef it up somewhat, but maybe true scaled terminator armour and a couple of big combat shields?

Looted Wagon.

It's only a conversion.

Conversions are allowed, but if the model that it is supposed to be replacing cannot wield four gauss cannons (2 on each arm), twin-linked or not, then it kind of violates the spirit of conversions.

Every model on the table has to have an assigned set of rules from the army book.

You cannot just go "this is a random dude with 4x the guns he normally can", but you can go "this guy with four guns counts-as a whatever (ie, Necron Lord or something)"

Of course if your just playing with your mates feel free to disregard that and change the rules to your liking

I would accept that conversion as a Heavy Destroyer counts-as, or maybe a Cryptek. As long as you are consistent with what is what.

IE: If this guy has a super-mega death-ray that counts as a Melta-gun, the other guy with a super-mega death-ray also better be a guy with a Melta-gun.

Rule of cool.

Conversions are usually up to your opponent but as long as they can tell what its suppose to be, or you only have this unique model in your whole army and none of the original making things confusing, usually people wont care.

Make it awesome enough and they'll usually go "dude...." rather than "THATS ILLEGAL!"

2 lots of Gauss cannons on both arms.

I'm thinking Counts as quad gun?

hey guys, thx for the feedback,
tbh, i think some of you are "overthinking" my conversion.
he is just a Necron Destroyer on legs with the gun it holds in both hands (two of the destroyer guns). it will count as a notmal destroyer and the two guns will be there for show (unless the rules change for matches with mates).

thx, mrdarkmesa

heres what it looks like...

I think you will likely run into issues in that it doesnt match up with any unit in a wysiwyg capacity. Destroyers are a jump infantry unit with a gauss cannon, ideally if you had used for example a triarch praetorian body (jump infantry) and perhaps a single gauss cannon, mounted on the right sized base it'd be a cool destroyer conversion.

That said I have made the same kind of decisions myself in the past in conversions that I felt were cool without in game uses. If your friends are cool with it then rule of cool wins, tournaments however are highly unlikely to allow a non-wysiwyg unit such as this through.

A while ago now so please excuse the bad photography and poor conversion but my conversions in a similar vein:


Count as immortal


Count as Tomb Blade

 Melcavuk wrote:
I think you will likely run into issues in that it doesnt match up with any unit in a wysiwyg capacity. Destroyers are a jump infantry unit with a gauss cannon, ideally if you had used for example a triarch praetorian body (jump infantry) and perhaps a single gauss cannon, mounted on the right sized base it'd be a cool destroyer conversion.

That said I have made the same kind of decisions myself in the past in conversions that I felt were cool without in game uses. If your friends are cool with it then rule of cool wins, tournaments however are highly unlikely to allow a non-wysiwyg unit such as this through.

A while ago now so please excuse the bad photography and poor conversion but my conversions in a similar vein:


Count as immortal


Count as Tomb Blade

Echoing what others have said, as long as it is clear what it is meant to be and you are consistent about it across the board, it shouldn't be a problem.

You might run into issues as destroyers are a jump unit and your model is just a guy on foot with 2 big guns.

To Melcavuk, both of your conversions are completely clear what they are meant to be. Plus they both look awesome, especially the counts as tomb blade!

I am so stealing that Tomb Blade idea

 CalgarsPimpHand wrote:
A lot of people are sticklers about "armed as shown", where you can easily identify what a model is and what they're armed with by looking at them

This is called courtesy. If it is important or unique, it should be depicted. As long as it is reasonably the same size as the original model and looks good, go ahead.