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I run 3lrbt in my army . i have been told them are the worst tanks to use for my ig. so what one is the best i really dislike the demolishers tank as iam not a fan of the range. I play against marines, orks,tauand nids. them are the most common army i face.

It entirely depends on the rest of your list. However when playing guard, if you're lacking marine killing power to the point you need 3 russes it's likely you're doing something wrong.
Think of LRBTs as a gap filler. You only take them if you struggle at killing MEQ in the open since they're horribly inefficient at doing anything else.

Generally artillery is far better than russes, but again, it depends on your list in general.

I like LRMBTs, they are effective anti MeQ and GeQ, well they are good at killing anything that isn't an MC or has a 2+ armor save.

Plus the AV14 front makes it a pain to destroy making it an excellent fire magnet, all for the small cost of 3 infantry squads.

LRMBTs are a very good generalists. They have yet to disappoint in 10 years.

Battle Tanks are probably the best and move versatile of them all. There cheaper and they put out firepower. There one weakness is that they cant shoot flyers but drop a template on a tank its got a good chance to pop the tank. Hordes well don't get me started there. Punishers are my personal second favorite because I cant shoot flyers, infantry and glance the crap out of transports. If flyers didn't exist I would own 5 LRBT not 3 LRBT and 2 Punishers.

My big thing is i only been playing a yr and a half and faceing lots of 3+ and 4+sv Armies so to kill there troops i got a lrbt . i run 2platoons of 4squad with lc in each squad and 2vet squads with plasma in chamirs and company hq.

What does you list normally look like?

2Platoons of 4squads all squads got lc plan platoon hq nothing special .2plasma vets squads in chamires company hq nothing special and 3 lrmbt

It actually doesn't sound bad, do you combine your platoons?

Do you use Heavy weapon teams ever?

No hw teams from my understanding ther very bad. i always run my platoons in 2squads of 20

so your running 4x 20 man combined squads with 2 LC each?

Issue Bring it down to each combined squad will allow a 66% chance to hit a flyer.

Heavy Weapon teams wreck. 3 sets of 3 autocannons can pop all those 4+ save people easy and transports and high toughness. Use you orders to twin link them on vehicle and bye transports. blob your squads and first rank second rank anything coming towards you. You the Heavy weapons to sit your objectives and the blobs to push towards there's covering your vets. Let the Russes fire at will and blow up there Heavy vehicle and then concentrate on the infantry. Orks and Nids should just first rank second rank the blobs you will pour out 120 shots at whatever you aim at. You can have your 2+ save but I got 20 wounds on a bad day good luck saving that. With marines same thing same result. If you got 2 blobs pouring out shots they will die no matter the save. Do the marines drop pod or rhino?

I thought hwteams couldn't take objectives as they are heavy been told at many of a trouny i have been to by oldeer players who have been playing 20yrs

In the 3rd edition codex they were under heavy support if I recall correctly. They are part of the infantry platoon there for are troop choices.

They are a platoon heavy support so they are not scoring from my understanding

Then the PCS would count as a HQ in your scenario but there not. if you read the top it says that 0-5 heavy weapons squads. each squad count as a single troop choice. your multiple squads count as scoring same with the heavy weapons teams same with your platoon command squad. there under the troops selection and the FAQS don't say they cant score therefore they score. other wise they would be like the old codex and be under heavy support.

zilka86 wrote:
They are a platoon heavy support so they are not scoring from my understanding

They are part of a troops choice and are troops. "Heavy" in the unit name doesn't make them a Heavy Support choice.

 kronk wrote:

zilka86 wrote:
They are a platoon heavy support so they are not scoring from my understanding

They are part of a troops choice and are troops. "Heavy" in the unit name doesn't make them a Heavy Support choice.

Correct, everything under the infantry platoon entry is considered troops and thus are scoring.

To the OP, LRBT's are pimp and have yet to fail me except when i take only 1.

As a marine player that likes to run terminators, the "Plasma Flinger" Leman Russ tank is the one that makes me uncomfortable when I see it across the table.

Run the LRBTs as vanquishers. The models look virtually identical anyways, and the vanquisher is way better, having a much stronger alpha strike capability and being able to be fired along with sponsons, rather than making them snap fire.

The LRBT are meh at doing everything and blegh for doing certain things. I prefer Demolishers over them since range is barely an issue (Unless immobilized). My favorite tank is the Executioner. Man, those things are are excellent at wiping out anything that isn't a Horde.

Are the vanquishers the on with s6 ap4 ingore cover they seem like the be useful. demolisher seem good but i don't like such short range. the ac one seems great at killing infy and light tanks with hb side guns. i use my lrmbt as arty because i don't like baliske and fw cost a lot to get a couple Griffins.

They're the 72" meltagun that's always in melta range.

So really any lrbt i go with is good some just serve more of nerow role in ur army

Yes, except for the actual battlecannon LRBT. Not only is its role incredibly narrow, but it's just straight beat by the exterminator against pretty much everything. If you're going to bring a take-all-comers tank, the exterminator is just better than the battlecannon. Especially since you can give it sponsons and shoot it at full BS.

The battle cannon is better at popping armor. It wont scatter enough to make it horrible inaccurate we as vanquisher is BS3 and it gets 2D6 armor pen just like the vanquisher. if your shooting from far away you only are going to fire a lascannon which you don't even need. and if you got a horde your vanquishers are worthless. dual autocannons is worthless I can take a heavy weapons team of them for cheaper and better. eradicator can do good against ADL army's but tau would be the only real ADL army you play. you like me hate the demolisher. The Punishers would be good against the Orks and Nids but tau and marines maybe. Executioners are good but I feel like they wouldn't be as good against the Orks and Nids. Would tear through Marines though. The LRBT can deal with hordes and tanks with efficiency. Ya maybe there others are better at there job but they are not as versatile. especially when cheap heavy weapons teams can take there place.

Generally speaking the LRBT is the best. Rather cheap and great vs hordes and MEQs. Honestly you want to most of them besides the Demo, LRBT and Executioner. The others will be useful in some situations and in certain lists but the Big 3 are almost always useful.

People will tell you that LRBTs arnt that great. They might not be as good as other things in the codex as far as damage output, but they are durable and very iconic. I never make a list without them.

The regular Battle Tank never disappoints, at least when I use it. It's great against marines, hordes, and is reasonably effective against light and medium vehicles. It's very rare that it won't have a good target to shoot at, especially considering the 72" range. The Demolisher IS better though, the higher Strength, AP, and rear AV makes up for the shorter range. 24" is nothing to sneeze at either.

I'm not a huge fan of the other tanks, but they can put out a respectable amount of firepower on the move with sponsons. Executioner with plasma cannons is just all kinds of hilarity and will scare anything that isn't an AV13+ vehicle. The Eradicator is actually a really solid choice if your meta is full of xenos armies, but otherwise I'm not a fan. I've never used a Punisher but a lot of players swear by it, it's hard to argue with a Heavy 20 gun. The Exterminator can be kitted out to be a great vehicle hunter with multi-melta sponsons and a las cannon, but won't do anything else particularly well.

Figure out which of the above you need the most, and you'll know which Russ to field.

The real power with Leman Russes comes with their versatility. No single Russ will be the best in every situation with every army list, but they're all pretty good at doing what they're designed to do.When I decide which ones to take I try to evaluate what parts of my army is lacking and pick my tanks based on that. As long as the variant you pick is fulfilling a role your list needs, you really can't go wrong with it.

 ravengatorfan wrote:
The battle cannon is better at popping armor. It wont scatter enough to make it horrible inaccurate we as vanquisher is BS3 and it gets 2D6 armor pen just like the vanquisher. if your shooting from far away you only are going to fire a lascannon which you don't even need. and if you got a horde your vanquishers are worthless. dual autocannons is worthless I can take a heavy weapons team of them for cheaper and better. eradicator can do good against ADL army's but tau would be the only real ADL army you play. you like me hate the demolisher. The Punishers would be good against the Orks and Nids but tau and marines maybe. Executioners are good but I feel like they wouldn't be as good against the Orks and Nids. Would tear through Marines though. The LRBT can deal with hordes and tanks with efficiency. Ya maybe there others are better at there job but they are not as versatile. especially when cheap heavy weapons teams can take there place.

Run the vanq with plasma sponsons, that way it has a possibility of wounding a couple models out of a horde army.

Its also nice when you pop a transport and then the following turn if the enemy hasnt made it to great cover those sponsons will have a nice target to fire upon. Its an expensive tank and is rather hit or miss with the vanq cannon or the lascannon. Is it at all worth trying vanq with heavy bolter hull and sponsons for horde??? dont think it would be effective but as the vanq cannon is board range it would try to pop vehicles at a distant and once the fot slodgers get up close the bolters will just do the work from their.

But in all honesty I run eradicators with heavy bolters all around and the tank is an excellent GEQ killer or even 4+. Ive run punishers with heavy bolters all around but Im liking it with lascannon hull and MM sponsons, I also run the executioner with lascannon and plasma sponsons as its such a great tank. but in a general list I usually run around 2-3 LRBT's and sometimes will swap one out for a vanq with hull lascannon plasma sponsons and pask, great at killing most targest aside from not doing to much to horde.

Ive never run the LRBT with a hull lascannon and plasma sponson without using pask though to be honest, vanqs are nice but as they are bs3 like everything else the guard has is what makes it hard for me to try anything else.

Otherwise those are my suggestions for russes. If you run artillery Basilisks arent bad but II would also suggest possibly using colossus, ignores cover and is ap3 takes out bikes easily and is s6.