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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/20 20:18:53
Subject: 900 points HE vs Dwarves
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I am fairly new to the High Elf army. Played them a little at the start of 8th edition, but haven't used them in a while. I am playing in an escalation league and we are going into our second round. I have limited experience with playing against most armies so I was hoping to find a little help here. I like the idea of a monster mash list for the HE and so I want my lists to reflect this, even at smaller points. This round is 900 points and I am going against dwarves. I have come up with 2 possible lists. I have never had a game against dwarves so I am a little unsure of how to approach them.
List 1
Mage - Barded Steed, LVL 2, Beasts, Forbidden Rod
Lothern Sea Guard - (17) full command, shields
Dragon Princes - Full Command, BotWD
Flamespyre Phoenix
List 2
Prince - Elven Steed with Ithilmar Barding, Biting Blade, Dragon Armour, Lance, Shield
Silver Helms x9 - Full Command w/shields
Dragon Princes x5 - Full Command w/ Banner of the World Dragon
Flamespyre Phoenix
I have most every other model so I can swap out for most things. Is there any one thing that people have found works well against dwarves?
Appreciate the help.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/21 11:39:20
Subject: Re:900 points HE vs Dwarves
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Furtive Haradrim Scout
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This really belongs in the army list section not tactics.
Your second list is better at this points level dwarves will play arty+guns and not much else so mobility is the key to beating them. The fire chicken is good fly him over cannnons to get d6 hits on all the arty. The helms are also good.
You should get rid of the princes though IMO, they cost too much and will get destroyed by an orga n gun. Instead take more helms or some reavers. The banner is an excellent idea though as most dorf cannons are magical.
Swap the prince for a mage cant mind what high magic is like but. Fire could be a good lore.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/24 21:11:53
Subject: 900 points HE vs Dwarves
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Smokin' Skorcha Driver
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Monster mash wouldn't be good against dwarves because they have a lot of ways to turn your monsters into paste.
1 cannon can kill a flamespyre in turn 1. Dwarves can have just about put 3 cannons on the board for the price of a flamespyre. Cannons are also good at killing heavy Cav, so silver helms, and dragon princes are also far game after the chicken dies.
Whats worked for me has been Reavers, and ward saves (BotWD, Phoenix guard).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 01:03:08
Subject: 900 points HE vs Dwarves
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Death-Dealing Ultramarine Devastator
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At smaller points I would forgo big expensive things like the phoenix in favor of more units of troops. At higher points that phoenix is solid, but in smaller points that kind of expensive model can catch an unlucky smack down and then you are playing the rest of the game at a huge disadvantage.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 01:10:24
Subject: Re:900 points HE vs Dwarves
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Warrior with Repeater Crossbow
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Can't say much about HE tactics as I don't play them. That being said, I play (EDIT: against) Dwarfs quite frequently and find that generally they're very slow and have poor maneuverability but hit HARD. Use the HE's speed to your advantage.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/02 17:15:44
Subject: 900 points HE vs Dwarves
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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You seem to want a heavily mounted list, of the two options listed I would go with the second, but dropping the dragon princes (as others have mentioned, they will likely die to shooting) and dropping the phoenix for two units of eagles. Fill in extra points with a BSB (anyone can roll an 11...) and some reavers. At 900 points vs dwarfs don't bother with a mage.
Depending on how much you are willing to flex, white lions are a great option vs dwarfs. Str 6 wounds them on 2s and can cut through armor on characters, plus a 3+ vs shooting means they will actually get a save.
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