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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/22 20:44:04
Subject: Chaos Terminator lord
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Fleshound of Khorne
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Hey guys recently I always ran a list with Bike lord (brand,LC)
and i were thinking about Terminitor lord with (lC and Chianfist) but i dont know to what unit should i add him
usually i use 3-5 Termicide
20 cult (i can use more)
two or three groups of 10 CSM
so from Your experince how should i ran Termilord and with what?
(btw i play Iron warriors abit fluffy but still i will hear any advice)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/22 21:33:25
Subject: Chaos Terminator lord
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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if you are taking a termie lord with LC and Chainfist...
Forget the Sigil, the 5++ is enough.
MoN is probably the best, init5 has you going before most normal guys with the LC, and the chainfist is striking last, so you want to survive against those pesky init6+ ap2 weapons daemons, CWE and eldar have and pevent yourself from getting doubled out by anything but a MC smash.
Blight grenades can be nice, as they give your termite grenades
I would run him with PM on foot(or nurgle CSM), or a ton of cultists(not making use of T5 i know)
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My Dark Mechanicus P&M Blog. Mostly Modeling as I paint very slowly. Lots of kitbashed conversions of marines and a few guard to make up a renegade Iron Hand chapter and Dark Mechanicus Allies. Bionics++ |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/23 10:40:38
Subject: Re:Chaos Terminator lord
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Member of a Lodge? I Can't Say
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I disagree, I don't think a 5++ is enough. Every time you roll a 4 on that save, you will kick yourself for it. And if you really want to keep him alive, a MoT to make it a 3++ is pretty sweet.
Here is the kicker on your Lord... what is your delivery for him? Walking, Land Raider or Deep Striking?
If your putting him in a LR, your talking 4 other guys (if Terminators) or 8 guys in power armor. Your probably looking at a more close combat unit at this point that can charge out. Since you haven't mentioned any Marks for your Lord or your list, I will assume they are unmarked, so Icons are not needed since the Lord makes them Fearless (so no need for a IoV, the only unmarked Icon). Give them extra CCWs, maybe VotLW and melta guns and go to town. Obviously this unit is pushing 400-500+ points and most do not like to do this (putting all of their eggs into one basket is mentioned a lot).
If your DSing him, you have to accept the fact they are not moving for a turn and are going to take a lot of fire. You then might want to look at a large squad of 7+ Terminators to soak up wounds and have a bunch of them as stock Terminators to soak up wounds. You can place the Lord first and ring guys around him, so make sure you place your guys properly. A couple with combi-meltas are still not a bad option, but remember your Lord can still take a Melta Bomb, so you do not have to take a Power fist, you can just take a Lightining Claw, though a Claw+Fist/Chainfist still gives you an extra attack due to both being special weapons and you can choose which one your going to use for your attacks (all the attacks have to be used with one or the other, you can not split attacks). At this point, you should really look at Marks... either MoN for +1 Toughness, MoT for +1 Invuln Saves, or MoS and making sure you take a IoE to give the unit FNP.
Walking... you again should look at a large squad and/or Marks to allow you to get your Lord up to do his damage. Now you have to figure your taking 2-3 turns of shooting. I would strongly consider a mass of Cultists or CSMs. Your gonna need around 30+ Cultists and 10-20 Marines or 7+ Terminators to do this. Again, this is a large point sink as your looking at around 200pts worth of dudes to make this work.
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Been playing 40k on and off since 89.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/23 12:54:39
Subject: Chaos Terminator lord
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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Terminator lord needs MoN. It's embarrassing being taken out by some chump with a power fist.
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Glory for Slaanesh!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/23 13:31:55
Subject: Re:Chaos Terminator lord
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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BlkTom wrote:I disagree, I don't think a 5++ is enough. Every time you roll a 4 on that save, you will kick yourself for it. And if you really want to keep him alive, a MoT to make it a 3++ is pretty sweet.
Thats a lot of points.
Is a 4++ worth 25 more points than a 5++?
Is a 3++ worth 40 points more than a 5++(and also prevents you from having T5, init5, rage+counter attack and joining good units)
Terminator lords are nice because they are cheap, if you make them too expensive you might as well take abbadon
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Dark Mechanicus and Renegade Iron Hand Dakka Blog
My Dark Mechanicus P&M Blog. Mostly Modeling as I paint very slowly. Lots of kitbashed conversions of marines and a few guard to make up a renegade Iron Hand chapter and Dark Mechanicus Allies. Bionics++ |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/23 14:22:50
Subject: Chaos Terminator lord
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Battleship Captain
Oregon
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I agree with Exergy, at a certain point it's just not cost effective. T5 2+/5++ is fairly durable for the point cost.
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