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My friend brought the ork stompa model a couple of years ago just as a cool model to paint but seeing as the new apocalypse rules have just come out I thought I might pick them so we give it a go in some games.

If we use it in normal size games will it be unbalanced to play against, are there any rules you would change to make it work better and how much anti tank will I need to take something like this down?

Not sure where to begin. It's quite expensive in points, so that's a bonus..
But he brings way too much dakka to the table; he could easily wipe out almost two Tactical Squads each turn.
He has tons of AP3 weapons, even S10-blasts and more stuff to shoot everything down within one turn.

My suggestion would be to lower the blast-radius and take a look at the AP of his weapons.
And you can always play games till you find a statline that works for you.

The only thing you need to do is warn your opponent that it's coming so they can be sure to bring appropriate counters. A Stompa really isn't that scary if you know it's coming, combi-melta sternguard in drop pods will probably kill it on the first turn before it ever gets to do anything.

A friend of mine has one and I've played several normal games with it included. It really was not as impressive on the table as it is on paper, I'm not saying it sucked but it definitly didnt make the game unbalanced.

Again, another no.

Apocalypse units are for Apocalypse games. The Ork player is going to be pretty bored if that's the only model he has on the table.

It should be fine. I recommend taking stuff that plays quickly so your friend won't get bored waiting.

Stompas are hella fun.

It can also be locked in combat though, so use some thunder hammer terminators and lock him down!

Or scouts. Just dump 20 scouts on it.

 Peregrine wrote:
The only thing you need to do is warn your opponent that it's coming so they can be sure to bring appropriate counters. A Stompa really isn't that scary if you know it's coming, combi-melta sternguard in drop pods will probably kill it on the first turn before it ever gets to do anything.

Not so sure anymore, as any pen on a SH is now practically a glance and even if you hit 6 on damage die, the best you can do is 4 hull points of damage

wouldnt that be like half your army right there? im not sure what a stompa is worth exactly but i know it isnt cheap.

1 Stompa plus ~100 boyz would be about it. Shoot the stompa, it dies, now its a weak green tide to deal with

 Bobthehero wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:
The only thing you need to do is warn your opponent that it's coming so they can be sure to bring appropriate counters. A Stompa really isn't that scary if you know it's coming, combi-melta sternguard in drop pods will probably kill it on the first turn before it ever gets to do anything.

Not so sure anymore, as any pen on a SH is now practically a glance and even if you hit 6 on damage die, the best you can do is 4 hull points of damage

But remember, melta still does that extra D3 HP on a 4+. Drop 500 points worth of suicide melta sternguard next to one and you're averaging 10 HP gone. That's a dead Baneblade, and a pretty big dent in anything short of the biggest titans.

Now 500 pts, yeah sure.

10 hp is still not a dead stompa tho

Didnt all the bonuses to the pen results go away after the first roll? Otherwise an AP1 would have a good chance of just insta-gibbing any super heavy since 50-50 would be an "explode" and keep on going till nothing is left.

So those 100 boyz are spread out around the stompa to prevent a drop pod landing by it aaaaand that strategy doesn't work at all anymore!

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
Again, another no.

Apocalypse units are for Apocalypse games. The Ork player is going to be pretty bored if that's the only model he has on the table.

 Vineheart01 wrote:
Didnt all the bonuses to the pen results go away after the first roll? Otherwise an AP1 would have a good chance of just insta-gibbing any super heavy since 50-50 would be an "explode" and keep on going till nothing is left.

No, if you pen a hit a 6, you do d3 hip of damage and that's it.

Every other results are simply ignored

A Stompa won't be too much of an issue in a normal game, especially at their new costs. As long as you know its coming, you should be able to handle it without too much issue.

 Vaktathi wrote:
A Stompa won't be too much of an issue in a normal game, especially at their new costs. As long as you know its coming, you should be able to handle it without too much issue.

Pretty much, Stompas are pretty manageable. Now if you were fighting something with a D-weapon or the Stompa had a Lifta-droppa...

I'm not a fan of mixing superheavies in normal games, unless you're doing a one-off scenario for your campaign or something.

I want to say that the spearhead expansion had an interesting scenario for a super heavy called 'Stop the Stompa' where the goal was to prevent the stompa from crossing to one side of the board to the other.

 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:
A Stompa won't be too much of an issue in a normal game, especially at their new costs. As long as you know its coming, you should be able to handle it without too much issue.

Pretty much, Stompas are pretty manageable. Now if you were fighting something with a D-weapon or the Stompa had a Lifta-droppa...

Exactly, stompas and baneblades aren't too much of an issue really, D weapons and some of the crazier Apoc rules however just can't be made to work well in normal games (even in Apoc they get unmanageable quickly )

Play several, and let us know how it goes.

As many people said, it all depends on what it goes up against.

So I've bought the rule book, and I have to say the stompa doesn't look to scary.

Its got heaps of hull points to protect it, but the amount of ranged damage it can put out drops alot after the first couple of turns it might be in combat by then though.

Gonna try it out this weekend with 2000pts a side and see how it goes.

at my local FLGS we have a format call "Lords of war" In 2500 point games you can bring a single super heavy.

Yeah, I agree. If you've brought enough anti-tank, you've brought enough to handle most superheavies.

If you can't handle a baneblade, for example, that means you can't handle 3 russes, and you should work on that before getting too feisty about baneblades.

They're not a part of 40k of course, but that doesn't mean they're necessarily so unbalanced that opponents should auto-disinclude them without at least considering it first.

And unlike the 3 russes that baneblade is going to be in perfect sight for all your anti tank. Russes occationally due to positioning are safe for a turn or two because of multiple reasons, baneblade is kinda forced to be out in the open saying HIT ME PLZ!

Anyone who fields a Baneblade in a regular game is practically required to have three extra models in their collection.

Creed to outflank with them.

Vance Stubbs to lose them by the truckload.

And Diomedes to declare "EET IS DA BEHNBUHLAAAYDE".

lol, yes. Baneblades actually cost +90 points than what you think they do, due to the mandatory "creed tax".

 Ailaros wrote:
lol, yes. Baneblades actually cost +90 points than what you think they do, due to the mandatory "creed tax".

But hey, a max dakka baneblade up a weak flank is mean.

Well, until fire dragons pile out of a wave serpent that sneers at it's guns (damn shields and damn cover save) and turn it to slag.

God damn Eldar and their god damn skimmers.