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HQ:
Warboss, Mega Armor, Cybork body 110
Warboss, 'eavy armor, power klaw, twin shoota 95

Troops:
3 Nobz, each with 'eavy armor and big choppa, Battlewagon transport with Kannon, 'ard case, and 2 big shootas 225
3 Nobz, each with 'eavy armor and kombi-rokkit, Battlewagon transport with kannon, 'ard case, and 2 big shootas 225

Elites:
3 meganobz each with kombi-skorcha, battlewagon transport with zzap gun, 'ard case, extra armor, 2 rokkits, and deffrolla 305
3 nobz each with 'eavy armor, battlewagon transport with kannon, 2 big shootas, extra armor, and deffrolla 235
3 nobz each with 'eavy armor and power klawz, battlewagon transport with kannon, extra armor, and 2 big shootas 270


Heavy Support:
Battlewagon with Kannon, kill kannon, 'ard case 175
Battlewagon with Kannon, Kill kannon, 'ard case 175
battlewagon with Kill Kannon, 2 rokkits, 'ard case 185

17 boyz and 8! battlewagons! Huzzah! This is my dream army.

I love your thinking here, 2k allows 4 HQ so you could take 4 warboss and 4 units of nobs or meganobs as troops.

Personally, I would strip down the Battlewagons and only take Def Rollas. Or if you are taking a Def Rolla, strip it down to 110 pts.

But I would love to hear how it plays

Second deff rollas on every single wagon you have.No Exceptions.

The ard cases are shooting yourself in the foot in most cases. Not being able to shoot or assault out of a wagon is counter to what your list is about. Only keep it on empty wagons.

Extra armor is near worthless in 6th edition, just drop it outright.

Consider balancing out your nobs. One PK for each squad instead of all in one. Eavy armor is a bit of a waste on 3 nobs though. Not bad, just not great.

Make your second boss have mega armor. It comes with all you have and then some for only pennies more.

After making every wagon have a deffrolla, extra points go well in RPj's and riggers.

Yet another voice in agreement with the whole "drop the crap from the wagons" thing.

I totally dig the theme you've got going here, but yoose muckin about a bit. What you want is a KFF Mek, that 5+ cover save is fantastic.

What I'd recommend here is taking two force orgs, and then getting your battlewagons as transports for MegaNob units. Don't bother with standard Nobs - go biker or mega or go home!

Take a KFF Mek, and fill up your heavy support with either more battlewagons (for thematic overkill) or Big Gun Batteries

2k pts you can really get alot of battlewagons and many nobs as troops!
i would go for that! also i agree with stripping the battlewagons and slapping on deffrollas because you do limit yourself of shooting out and getting out and assaulting.
And a KFF would make Ur arm14 very powerful!

If my math is right, you could get 12 Battlewagons w/ Def Rollas and seriously mess with your opponents mind. 12 seems to be the max I can squeeze in.

3 Warboss (twin-link shoota)
1 Big Mek KFF
3 Elite 3 Nob
3 Transport Battlewagon w/defrolla
3 Troop 3 Nob
3 Transport Battlewagon w/defrolla
1 Troop 10 Gretchins 1 Runtherd
6 Heavy Support Battlewagon w/defrolla

Okay, how about this?

HQ (1)
Warboss with powerklaw and 'eavy armor 90

HQ (2)
Warboss 60

Elites (1)
3 nobz, Battlewagon transport with deffrolla 170
3 nobz, Battlewagon transport with deffrolla 170
3 nobz, Battlewagon transport with deffrolla 170

Elites (2)
3 nobz, Battlewagon transport with deffrolla 170

Troops (1)
3 nobz, Battlewagon transport with deffrolla 170
10 grots and 1 runtherd 40

Troops (2)
3 nobz, Battlewagon transport with deffrolla 170
10 grots and 1 runtherd 40

Heavy Support
Battlewagon with killkannon 150
Battlewagon with killkannon 150
Battlewagon with Killkannon 150

Heavy Support (2)
Battlewagon with Killkannon 150
Battlewagon with Killkannon 150

2000pts. 22 boyz (and 20 grots, eh) and and 11 battlewagons. Gork! (or possibly Mork!) that's a ton of wagons!

This is the no frills at all list.

 Sleg wrote:
If my math is right, you could get 12 Battlewagons w/ Def Rollas and seriously mess with your opponents mind. 12 seems to be the max I can squeeze in.

3 Warboss (twin-link shoota)
1 Big Mek KFF
3 Elite 3 Nob
3 Transport Battlewagon w/defrolla
3 Troop 3 Nob
3 Transport Battlewagon w/defrolla
1 Troop 10 Gretchins 1 Runtherd
6 Heavy Support Battlewagon w/defrolla

Glorious.

Or the SUPER no frills would be:
HQ(1)
Warboss, big choppa, 'eavy armor and cybork body 80
Elites(1)
3 Nobz, battlewagon transport with deffrolla 170
3 Nobz, battlewagon transport with deffrolla 170
3 Nobz, battlewagon transport with deffrolla 170
Troops(1)
3 Nobz, battlewagon transport with deffrolla 170
10 grots, runtherd 40
Heavy Support(1)
battlewagon with deffrolla 110
battlewagon with deffrolla 110
battlewagon with deffrolla 110

HQ(2)
Warboss, big choppa, 'eavy armor and cybork body 80
Troops(2)
3 Nobz, battlewagon transport with deffrolla 170
10 grots, runtherd 40
Elites(2)
3 Nobz, battlewagon transport with deffrolla 170
3 Nobz, battlewagon transport with deffrolla 170
Heavy Support(2)
battlewagon with deffrolla 110
battlewagon with deffrolla 110

HQ=160
Elites=850
Troops=420
Heavy=550


2000 points. 25 boyz (and 20 grots) and 12 battlewagons

Don't forget you have to have 2 HQ and 4 Troops for a 2k list - nevermind I thought they were 2 separate armies.

 Sleg wrote:
Don't forget you have to have 2 HQ and 4 Troops for a 2k list - nevermind I thought they were 2 separate armies.

They are 2 separate armies/one army with 2 force orgs. And I do have 2 HQs and 4 Troops. It is written a little convoluted, so that might add some confusion. Sorry about that.


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...oh, wait. I think I just told you exactly what you told yourself. I still apologize for the convoluted set up.

Arise my thread! I was thinking of tweaking this crazy list again with the intent of actually building it and using it against unsuspecting opponents. Picture me, a guy you don't know what looks like, strolling into a game store and challenging some locals to a 2000 point game versus Orks. I can see the wicked smiles creep across their veteran faces now, thinking "alright, orks, I'll just bring my heavy-bolter-rich space marine X list and wipe this guy's army from the table". Then I play my one trick and slap 8 battlewagons on the table and watch as everyone else figures out the perfect list to destroy me with while I confuse and possibly trounce the poor fool who accepted my challenge first. Yeah, one trick pony.

Anyway, here's the list:
HQ
Warboss, cybork body, 'eavy armor, big choppa, boss pole 85
Warboss, cybork body, 'eavy armor, big choppa, kombi-skorcha 85

ELITES
3 Nobs with 'eavy armor in a Battlewagon with 'ard case, zzap gun, red paint job, and 4 big shootas 220
3 Nobs with 'eavy armor in a Battlewagon with 'ard case, zzap gun, red paint job, and 4 big shootas 220
3 Nobs with 'eavy armor in a Battlewagon with 'ard case, zzap gun, red paint job, and 4 big shootas 220

TROOPS
3 Nobs with 'eavy armor, 1 with Kombi-skorcha in a Battlewagon with 'ard case, zzap gun, red paint job, and 4 big shootas 225
3 Nobs with 'eavy armor, 1 with Kombi-skorcha in a Battlewagon with 'ard case, zzap gun, red paint job, and 4 big shootas 225
10 shoota boyz 60
10 shoota boyz 60

HEAVY SUPPORT
Battlewagon with 'ard case, kill kannon, 4 big shootas, red paint job, and extra armor 200
Battlewagon with 'ard case, kill kannon, 4 big shootas, red paint job, and extra armor 200
Battlewagon with 'ard case, kill kannon, 4 big shootas, red paint job, and extra armor 200

HQ=170
Elites=660
Troops=570
Heavy Support=600
Total = 2000

Feedback welcome. Thanks for looking.

Why do you put ard case on the BW's?

It makes it so you can't assault out of the vehicle and you can't shoot out of the vehicle. I understand you might not be assaulting much. But you still want to have all of the shoota shooting. I personally like using boarding planks on my wagons.

Other then that I like the list.

Thanks for the feedback, balsak_da_mighty! The ard case is so that my opponents don't get the +1 for being open topped. 3 nobs with pistols won't be doing much shooting and the battle wagon still has firing ports on the sides and rear if I really intend to shoot at something. The nobs in these wagons are really just there because it's the only way to field the battlewagons. They are an afterthought, not an integral part of the force.


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I suppose I could go a step further and do this:

HQ
Warboss, cybork, eavy armor 75
Warboss, cybork, eavy armor 75

ELITES
3 Nobs in Battlewagon with ard case, zzap gun, 4 big shootas, and red paint job 205
3 Nobs in Battlewagon with ard case, zzap gun, 4 big shootas, and red paint job 205
3 Nobs in Battlewagon with ard case, zzap gun, 4 big shootas, and red paint job 205

TROOPS
3 Nobs in Battlewagon with ard case, zzap gun, 4 big shootas, and red paint job 205
3 Nobs in Battlewagon with ard case, zzap gun, 4 big shootas, and red paint job 205

FAST ATTACK
2 Warbuggies with twin-linked rokkits 70
2 Warbuggies with twin-linked rokkits and red paint job 80
3 Warbuggies with twin-linked rokkits and red paint job 120

HEAVY SUPPORT
Battlewagon with ard case, kill kannon, and 4 big shootas 185
Battlewagon with ard case, kill kannon, and 4 big shootas 185
Battlewagon with ard case, kill kannon, and 4 big shootas 185

HQ=150
ELITES=615
TROOPS=410
FAST ATTACK=270
HEAVY SUPPORT=555
TOTAL=2000

So you don't plan on assaulting with them either?

I understand you are trying to get a lot of BW's on the field. I just don't understand what good is a BW without the proper support. Which you really have none. Like you have said the Pistols won't do much. Neither will 3 nobs in CC. But with you adding ard case to the BW's I am guessing that is not your plan. As a person that liked to do shooty Orks. I get your idea, I am just not sure if you have enough to do that with.

Looking at the list again more deeply. I am not sure that Zzap guns are that great to add. They hardly ever hit and they are so random you will never get what you need out of them. Personally I prefer the Kannon as it can fulfill both AT and A Infantry. 4 big shootas are a bit much as well. You really only need one extra weapon on the BW to cover weapon destroyed. The Kil Kannons I get and I think they are fine in a list like this. But I am guessing the Shootas are going on these BW's an again they have ard case. So you will only be able to fire half of the boys. Seems like a waste to me. I would drop the Ard case on these for sure. I just see a ton of points sink in stuff that you really don't need.

This is what I have at this point.

Boss: eavy armor, bosspole, attack squig, CBB
Boss: eavy armor, bosspole, attack squig, CBB

3 Nobs
-BW: BShoota, Kannon, Rigger, Rolla
3 Nobs
-BW: BShoota, Kannon, Rigger, Rolla
3 Nobs
-BW: BShoota, Kannon, Rigger, Rolla

3 Nobs
-BW: BShoota, Kannon, Rigger, Rolla
3 Nobs
-BW: BShoota, Kannon, Rigger, Rolla
10 Shootas
10 Shootas

BW: BShoota, Kannon, Rigger, Rolla
BW: BShoota, Kannon, Rigger, Rolla
BW: BShoota, Kil Kannon, Rigger, Rolla, Ard Case (empty)

This is 1715

At this point you have enough points to add 10 shootas to each squad and a nob to each squad. Or you could add 5 nobs that you could get into one squad and attach both bosses to it for a nasty little CC unit. Or maybe some air support a fighter could be useful to cover AA. Not sure how big that is in your area. Just some ideas there for you.

As above I'm struggling to get the point of the army.

You have lots of battlewagons that can't do much. Why? What is their purpose? The Zzap gun won't hit much at Bs2, if they move you'll e snapshooting all the big shootas.
If they all had Deff Rollas I could understand. Otherwise you just have large paperweights.

They're intimidating and confusing. And I like rolling dice. Snapshots aren't much worse than what I'm already shooting with. The point of the army is to confound my opponent. Also, battlewagons. I think you're having trouble getting past the idea that the army is unlikely to ever engage in hand to hand combat except by accident.


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Also, I really dislike lists that use the same thing everyone else uses. That sort of thing breeds weakness. Other players start to devise strategies that kill nearly any ork combatant. The idea is to keep them guessing; to always do the unexpected.

Now you've got it boy oh, with the massive collection of wagons.Part of tactics is to keep your opponent guessing.Playing the Ork shell game would be hysterical to watch.Who says Orks aren't entertaining,"huzzah".

See? Eldar 1 gets it.

I tell you, these lists are difficult to write because I'm tempted to add gear when clearly the goal is not to even have boys. So here is the first 7th edition attempt at this absurd list:
Great Waaagh! Detachment

HQ
Warboss - bosspole & eavy armor 69
TROOPS
10 Shoota boys 70
10 Shoota boys 70
ELITES
3 Nobz, battlewagon transport - killkannon, kannon, 4xBig Shoota, ard case, reinforced ram 244
3 Nobz, battlewagon transport - killkannon, kannon, 4xBig Shoota, ard case, reinforced ram 244
3 Nobz, battlewagon transport - killkannon, kannon, 4xBig Shoota, ard case, reinforced ram 244
3 Nobz, battlewagon transport - killkannon, kannon, 4xBig Shoota, ard case, reinforced ram 244
3 Nobz, battlewagon transport - killkannon, kannon, 4xBig Shoota, ard case, reinforced ram 244
HEAVY
Battlewagon - killkannon, kannon, 4xBig Shoota, ard case, reinforced ram 190
Battlewagon - killkannon, kannon, 4xBig Shoota, ard case, reinforced ram 190
Battlewagon - killkannon, kannon, 4xBig Shoota, ard case, reinforced ram 190

Total points =1999
36 "boys" and 8 battlewagons

That's a lot of guns on each Battlewagon!
All of which will be snap-shooting if you fire the KillKannon. Bit of a waste personally.

Yes, besides snapshooting a kannon is no better than a rokkit snapshot.

Also, you can save on 15 nobz by taking the blitz brigade formation. And it help to get closer for the killkannons

That plus the kannon, you now have 350pts for more goodies! (flyers, tankbustas, buggies, whatever...)

XC18 wrote:
... you now have 350pts for more goodies! (flyers, tankbustas, buggies, whatever...)

You mean more battlewagons.

Great WAAAGH! Detachment
HQ: (102)
Warboss - Eavy armor, klaw, twin shoota, cybork body, bosspole

TROOPS: (70)
10 grots +runtherd
10 grots +runtherd

ELITES: (658)
3 Nobz with shootas & eavy armor, Battlewagon transport - 4x Big shootas, red, reinforced ram, kannon
3 Nobz with shootas & eavy armor, 1 w/bosspole, Battlewagon transport - 4x Big shootas, red, reinforced ram, kannon
3 Nobz with shootas & eavy armor, 1 w/bosspole, Battlewagon transport - 4x Big shootas, red, reinforced ram, kannon

HEAVY: (495)
Battlewagon - ard case, 2x rokkits, killkannon
Battlewagon - ard case, 2x rokkits, killkannon
Battlewagon - ard case, 2x rokkits, killkannon

BLITZ BRIGADE: (675)
Battlewagon - 2x Big Shootas, Kannon, reinforced ram
Battlewagon - 2x Big Shootas, Kannon, reinforced ram
Battlewagon - 2x Big Shootas, Kannon, reinforced ram
Battlewagon - 2x Big Shootas, Kannon, reinforced ram
Battlewagon - 2x Big Shootas, Kannon, reinforced ram

Total points: 2000
12 boys (20 grots) and 11 battlewagons