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http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/48375726/worldsmith-industries-wrecked-vehicles-for-sci-fi



A set of 28mm scale resin wrecked vehicle terrain markers for use in science fiction miniature wargames.

Hi Kickstarters! My name is Jim Graham, and I’d like your help in kickstarting Worldsmith Industries, a fledgling terrain and gaming-aid company serving the miniature wargaming hobby. Specifically, I’d like to start the company by producing a series of resin wrecked vehicles for use in science fiction miniature wargames. The wrecks are designed for use in 28mm (or thereabouts) miniature wargames. Initially, I have a variety of wrecks in a “Galactic Marine” theme modeled and ready to cast.

Funds above and beyond our initial funding goal will allow me to produce wrecks in a variety of other shapes and styles. Currently, I have models ready to mold for Human Corpsmen, Space Elf, and Evil Space Elf styles. I hope to be able to unlock them as the Kickstarter progresses. I also have plans to be able to produce wrecks in a variety of other themes, including Technocrat Federation, Egyptian Robots, Galactic Orcs, and Chaotic Monsters. Heck, I might even be able to come up with something of use for the Alien Bug crowd.

I’ve been a gamer for as long as I can remember and a miniature wargamer for the past couple of decades. I’m a firm believer that a large part of the joy of a miniature wargame is the visual spectacle. A table of well-made terrain not only creates tactical possibilities, it can also serve to enhance the cinematic quality of the game. Carefully painted armies clashing across a board full of well-made terrain is a sight to behold. To mar that visual feast with a piece of brown cardboard cut in the shape of a vehicle seems criminal. I hope you’ll help me in beautifying wargaming tables across the world. While I’ll be starting with wrecked vehicles, I hope to be able to continue to grow Worldsmith Industries’ offerings over the upcoming years to include a wide variety of resin terrain pieces and gaming aids. This is just the beginning (I hope)!



The wrecks are specifically designed to be compatible with popular 28mm to 32mm science fiction miniature wargames. With that said, the wrecks are 100% non-IP infringing. The master models were scratch built by yours truly. No models manufactured by other companies were harmed in the making of these wrecks (though some were included in the video to show scale).

The wrecks are cast in a white resin, and are supplied unpainted. The resin I've selected is quite durable (see the video for a 3rd-story drop onto concrete). When you drop your army tray while moving from table to table (and the collective gasp of horror goes across the tournament hall), you can rest assured: your wrecks should be safe. The rest of your models may be smashed to smithereens, but your wrecks won't be wrecked.

Because of the process of casting, it is possible that some small bubbles may create holes in the models; however, I work hard to get bubble-free castings. Any bubbles that might make it past me are easy to fill, and blend in with the whole "wrecked vehicle" look so well, that you won't notice them.

I've tried to make sure that wrecks have plenty of flat open spaces where you can use decals, bits, and other ways of customizing these wrecks in order to make your wrecks best fit your army.





edit: To be clear, this is not my kickstarter, but a local guy from our forum. Support him!

i totally read the thread title wrong, I thought it said wicked sci fi vehicles which resulted in me being very confused when I opened this thread.

Neat stuff i guess but not really for me

 ironicsilence wrote:
i totally read the thread title wrong, I thought it said wicked sci fi vehicles which resulted in me being very confused when I opened this thread.

Neat stuff i guess but not really for me

Yeah, basically destroyed vehicle markers. Not evil sci-fi vehicles.

These are lovely and you should get them.

 Brother SRM wrote:
These are lovely and you should get them.

I just pledged for the $60 custom battle group level. I figure I could use a bunch of the transport markers for my sisters.

would i be correct in assuming they have the same foot print as "galactic marine" units

 ironicsilence wrote:
would i be correct in assuming they have the same foot print as "galactic marine" units

That's the whole point. All the measurements are listed there though so you can independently check the compatibility with your existing 'galactic marines'.

so $60 bucks for 5 marine transport markers, thats not bad

 ironicsilence wrote:
so $60 bucks for 5 marine transport markers, thats not bad

Basically, yeah. Pretty sweet deal.

I imagine as it progresses, stretch goals might be markers for other armies.

Do wreck markers really have to be the exact same shape as the vehicle they are representing? The "escape pod" outline in particular looks odd... but any of them with sharp edges (basically, all but the first) look abnormal for a wreck, to me.

In theory a wreck marker should have the same footprint as the vehicle that has been removed

(of cource a lot of folk just throw down a crater or stick smoke on top of the vehicle to indicate it's wrecked)

Yeah, technically wrecks should be the same footprint as the vehicle (according to the book).

Good job the target is low. By shipping only to the us, it limits the available market.

I can understand limiting to a home market with electrical goods and food, but figures, books and gaming accessories.....?

Maybe talk to someone state side and see if they're willing to ship to you?


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And, FUNDED!. He said he'll be posting stretches probably later today.

 pretre wrote:
Yeah, technically wrecks should be the same footprint as the vehicle (according to the book).

But do people really use an Identical footprint in practice? A wreck / pile of debris really should be more blobby in outline and not have sharp edges... it's a wreck!

It depends. Most folks with custom markers use ones that actually match the footprint.




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First Stretch!

FUNDED!!!! Human Corps Stretch Goal
Update #1 · Aug 1, 2013 · comment

YEA!!!! Thanks for your support everyone! With your help, we're now officially funded, and Worldsmith Industries will be a reality. Thank you, thank you, thank you!

As a first stretch goal, I offer you the Human Corps. In the dark, far future of grim Gothic darkness, humans may not be the toughest hombres out there, but they certainly are numerous. The Human Corps aren't heroes like the Galactic Marines. They're just regular Joes, with rifles and a modicum of training. While humans may not be smarter, tougher, or more agile than other races, there are few problems that can't be solved by throwing a few million bodies at it. A tank or two doesn't hurt, either. Quantity, as they say, has a quality all it's own.

If we hit $1500, I'll be able to unlock the Human Corps wrecks, which will include a Category A Walker and a Category C Transport Tank. The Human Corps wrecks were simple, no-nonsense vehicles, typified by rivets, square profiles, and good, old-fashioned steel plating.

Thanks again for your support, and I'm excited to see where this goes!




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Oh and FYI, dark space elves and space elves are next after this.

I love the idea here. Depending in my money situation later this month Ill be buying in

I think the oddity of having exact measurements is this. These markers are basically flat. Not much verticality. So while the outline is correct, its like the vehicle in question dissenigrated. That doesnt represent a simple wreck either. Being a stickler for the outline while ignoring 75% of the mass is a little silly.

I, for one, wish it was a little more wrecked vehicle than pile of rubble.

Well, there's a different rules wise between a wreck and a destroyed vehicle.

Wrecks are usually represented by the model still being on the table. Destroyed models are replaced by a crater or area of wreckage. Which is exactly what these are.

So a destroyed vehicle carefully remains piled up within the dimensions it had when whole?

My point remains.

Yeah, I love the idea of these, but not the execution. I'm with HisDivineShadow, I wish these had a little more vertical height.

Very interesting.
On the one hand, it's a very useful product, at a price that is fairly reasonable. It will look much nicer on the table than a simple outline template, and for those that don't care to make their own, this seems like a good choice.

On the other hand, it looks rather flat for a wrecked vehicle and the execution doesn't look like a wreck (see my link below for what wrecks look like), so much as a vehicle that was chopped up and mixed with rock. Also, if given a bag of gravel, some plascard and bass guitar strings, these would be pretty easy to make ones like this on ones own.

 HisDivineShadow wrote:
So a destroyed vehicle carefully remains piled up within the dimensions it had when whole?

Oddly this is very often the case, though I very much agree with you that they need more mass. There will of course be some parts strewn about, but a destroyed armored vehicle is not usually blown to bits. Rather, even unsalvagable tanks often look fairly "intact" and tend to sit in roughly the same footprint. Usually the only part of a destroyed tank separate from the hulk and large enough to function as cover is a game situation would be the turret. This is especially the case today where tanks are so tough that the goal is usually to penetrate the tank and have the round explode inside rather than pulverize the tank with an artillery barrage.

Take a look at these pics to see what I mean.
https://www.google.com/search?q=wrecked+tank&rlz=1C1RNPN_enUS474US474&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=9wX9UbHOFuXwyAH-x4GACg&ved=0CC0QsAQ&biw=1163&bih=839

A very odd and rare case where 40k rules do a pretty good job of realistically portraying the effects of combat.

If you disagree with the 40k rules for destroyed vehicles, this is probably not the best place to voice it.

"The vehicle is then removed and replaced with
scattered wreckage(area terrain) or a crater roughly the
same size as the vehicle (if you have one)."

So these represent a combination of the two. Scatter wreckage roughly the same size as the vehicle.

 Ouze wrote:
Yeah, I love the idea of these, but not the execution. I'm with HisDivineShadow, I wish these had a little more vertical height.

I like em. You can pick and choose where to stand your models without having to worry about ground that is so uneven you're tipping stuff over. Then, my models are on the topheavy side.

Good, functional pieces.

Fix wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
Yeah, I love the idea of these, but not the execution. I'm with HisDivineShadow, I wish these had a little more vertical height.

I like em. You can pick and choose where to stand your models without having to worry about ground that is so uneven you're tipping stuff over. Then, my models are on the topheavy side.

Good, functional pieces.

This.

Considering how many cool looking models will tip over on any sort of not 100% flat surface, i think this is a great way to represent destroyed vehicles.

I think they're not flat enough to fully accomplish that, actually. A lot of top-heavy models will tip with only the slightest of gradients, and these have plenty.

Eh, possibly, but it looks like you've got more options for finding a balanced spot than you would if you had, say, half a rhino sticking up off of one side of the base.

I agree, Eilif, but these markers dint really look like the wreck of a vehicle that just happened in this battle. It looks like a wreck that been rusting for centuries. The mass is just wrong. The wreckage these portray would be close to getting cratered. But why in the world would that stay in outline.

These look nice, but when it comes to gameplay, there are issues. If used with 40k, these are 6-explodes craters, not 5-wrecked. If someone attempted to use this as a wreck, I would have to disagree with it because a wreck in 40k game should have the same LOS profile (or close to) the original tank. (and since we are not going to buy 5 rhinos to make wrecks, it is easy enough to just use the original with some smoke or something)

As craters, the big thing is craters almost always have models deployed in them, and I can't see models standing on these easily. This is why felt outlines are so widely used because it fits the rules and easy to stand models on, which happens about 90% of the time with craters for exploded vehicles. I have some craters which were designed to be stood on opposed to be overly 3D in design and they work because they can be stood on.

I would want to see pictures of models standing on these before I would consider buying them, as they could be overly cinematic and non-functional for gameplay they way they are now.

These are definitely supposed to be for 6 explodes craters.


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Also, post a comment or question in the KS and I'm sure he'll take pictures with models on them.

edit: I posted on a local board to ask him for pics as well, but the more the merrier.


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Also



"If we hit $2000 in funding, two "Evil Space Elf" wrecks will be unlocked: a Dark Space Elf Speeder (Category B) and a Dark Space Elf Transport Skiff (Category C).

After that? Future stretch goals will include Space Elves, the Technocratic Federation, the Cyborgs of Anubis, Feral Space Orc Junkers, a monstrous walker for the Chaotic Monsters, and an Alien Bug tunneling marker. "