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I so far have

Casters:
eSorcsha
pSorcsha
eIrusk/pIrusk(I have pirusk and I have no issue proxying for the epic variant neither does my play group)

Warjacks:
Destroyer
Juggernaut
Marauder

Troops:
Winter guard infantry
Winter guard rocketeers
Winter guard UA standard
Kovnik Joe
Widow Makers
Man-O-War Shocktroopers

Solos:
Manhunter
War dog

What else should I buy?

The first thing my group made me buy was the Black Ivan-upgrade kit for the Destroyer. It´s not that expensive money wise (alright, ~12 Bucks for a new head, a new weapon and a couple of spikes ain´t a bargain either) but it improves the model a lot and only costs one point more. If you want a new Jack I´d recommend either Beast-09 who loves Sorscha and works well with anyone else or Behemoth who has a really good reputation and can be found in pretty much every tourney-list due to his versatility.
Personally I really like Fenris. He has a bad ass model, hits a like a truck if he gets a good charge off and works with every caster since he can´t get targeted by spells anyway.
But it really depends on what you want your army to be like, after asking around a lot I really only got the answer that everything is at least decent in Khador with the exception of Kossites.

I swear by kodiaks, they don't require boundless charge for pathfinder and their chain attack is very nice, especially when you use a tag team of Kodiak and Marauder in scenario to ensure your opponents big models stay off the objectives. From what I'm seeing infantrywise you've a lot of shooting so I'd say Doom Reavers and their UA to give them tough, the combination of Doom Reavers and Shatter Stormed Widowmakers makes a lot of my opponents get very upset. Essentially you're widowmakers start popping out AoE's that clear the frontline units allowing the Doom Reavers to run up to the next line and clear out. I'd also recommend the Widowmaker Marksman, as his Swift hunter ability (which applies to the Widows when in his command range) allows them to jump back 2" having killed a model, so have them deploy 2" into a forest shoot and kill something then pull them back so they are 4" in, meaning short of hunter or other LoS ignoring abilites they should be pretty safe. If you want a more static gunline type of army, get 2 Winter guard mortars, field them with eIrusk, and the all the Winter Guard you've listed and Kovnik Joe and watch as nothing gets close, or if it does and doesn't bring ways around high DEF it'll be a scene similar to what happens when a tightly packed infantry unit meets Doom Reavers.

To be honest with you as tommse has said pretty much everything Khador has is decent, just figure out how you like to play your army and go from there and if you like melee, go out and buy pButcher, there is a saying that everything that anything within 10" of Butcher is dead, as an example I played a friend who also uses Khador the other day, charged his Spriggan (Jack with a lance and shield) and KOed it in two swings, thats pretty much what he does in a nutshell, altenatively give pVlad a look in, he's a nice easy to learn caster at first and when you want to start doing sill silly things he can cater for that too.

Behemoth, Beast 09 or a Spriggan will serve you better as a Warjack choice than the ones you currently have. Ironfang Pikemen and either of the UAs would be a good choice for additional infantry.

My meta is hella stupid so maybe explaining this will help some. I have a kid who plays trolls pretty standard like, but he also runs circle with every single unit having stealth so I think I should get a spriggan. Another guy plays legion and just runs hella heavy warbeasts. The other people I play with play pretty standard.

I am looking right now at getting a group of mercenaries.
Kell
Eiryss
Sylys
Gorman Di Wulfe

The idea I had was to run those mercs, a group of widow makers, a widow maker marksmen. And then if rolls permit you can get 10 hit boxes in one anything. Then have a kodiak swoop in to clean it all up.


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I like to run the winter guard death star list with eIrusk though. So any thoughts on how I could gear that towards 50 points?

Yeah, if you have a lot of Stealth the flares from the Spriggan would be a nice asset. And its just a nice solid warjack all around.

Do I want to get 10 or 6 iron fang pikemen? I could get only the 10 now, or the 6 and a few more. But which do you think is more worth it.

You really want the UA for the IFPs. I would say get as many as you can (they are that good) but if you cant get 10, try and get 6 and the UA. The mini feat is something else.

pButcher never ceases to amaze me. His stats are awesome for a melee bruiser, his support is solid, and his feat is great and simple. People get so used to warcasters hanging back and supporting that they forget sometimes how much damage output he has. I had a game against pirates where I just charge in between his sea dogs (suffering numerous free strikes on the way) and one shotted phinneus shae (Charge+weaponmaster+Fury+Feat). pButcher is tough as nails too.

KingKodo wrote:
You really want the UA for the IFPs. I would say get as many as you can (they are that good) but if you cant get 10, try and get 6 and the UA. The mini feat is something else.

pButcher never ceases to amaze me. His stats are awesome for a melee bruiser, his support is solid, and his feat is great and simple. People get so used to warcasters hanging back and supporting that they forget sometimes how much damage output he has. I had a game against pirates where I just charge in between his sea dogs (suffering numerous free strikes on the way) and one shotted phinneus shae (Charge+weaponmaster+Fury+Feat). pButcher is tough as nails too.

I currently run WGDS what is the best day to bump the 35pt eIrusk list with WGDS up to 50 points?

Since PP has changed over to only really selling full units it could be tough to expand on the unit of 6. I'd recommend going for the full unit.

Most of the time you run full units anyway, so you will rarely not use all the models, but you may regret not having the full unit.

Irusks Fire for Effect loves mortars and they fit your Winter Guard theme, so does the Rifle Corps.

tommse wrote:
Irusks Fire for Effect loves mortars and they fit your Winter Guard theme, so does the Rifle Corps.

I was thinking the rifle corps. They looked pretty damn good to me. Do you have to bring two kovnik joes though XD

Nafarious wrote:My meta is hella stupid so maybe explaining this will help some. I have a kid who plays trolls pretty standard like, but he also runs circle with every single unit having stealth so I think I should get a spriggan. Another guy plays legion and just runs hella heavy warbeasts. The other people I play with play pretty standard.

I am looking right now at getting a group of mercenaries.
Kell
Eiryss
Sylys
Gorman Di Wulfe

The idea I had was to run those mercs, a group of widow makers, a widow maker marksmen. And then if rolls permit you can get 10 hit boxes in one anything. Then have a kodiak swoop in to clean it all up.


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I like to run the winter guard death star list with eIrusk though. So any thoughts on how I could gear that towards 50 points?

no nyss hunters? :(

Seems like a very beast heavy meta. I've always found iron fangs and doom reavers enjoy chopping up beasts.

With eIrusk, try to abuse martial discipline. i take a full unit of MoW shocktroops. they block LOS and tramples and your own guys can charge and shoot through them. quite fun. I find Sylis, a MoW anchor, mortar a Drakhun, and a Spriggan are my go-to units for eIrusk. beyond that have some hard hitting melee units (iron fangs, doom reavers, great bears etc) and some good ranged units (rifle korps, winter guard infantry, widowmakers especially) and you've got a solid brick of a force. eIrusk does the traditional khador game of boosting damage output and troop surviveability whilst also offering movement shenanigans (Martial discipline, tactical supremacy, artifice of deviation) and a brutal control feat. I genuinely hold him up as one of the best khadoran casters - im genuinely astonished he's not regarded higher.

by the way, im assuming you know this but stealth doesnt bother a hard hitting melee unit!

Nafarious wrote:Do I want to get 10 or 6 iron fang pikemen? I could get only the 10 now, or the 6 and a few more. But which do you think is more worth it.

10man squad, + UA (either traditional one, or black dragon)

Nafarious wrote:

tommse wrote:


I was thinking the rifle corps. They looked pretty damn good to me. Do you have to bring two kovnik joes though XD

kovnik Joe for the rifles, fire for effect for the mortar rifle korps are astonishingly good. in timed turns, i generally prefer them to winter guard infantry.

If you already run a wgds unit, then you need a high armor unit to pair it with else you will be more vulnerable to aoe/ashes to ashes/chain lightning. Pikemen and shock troopers would make for great shields for your WGDS. Pikemen are significantlytougher but IFP have better offense. Also, I second the mortar for FFE target.