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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/09 14:29:30
Subject: Vehicles and feel no pain?
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
Wiltshire
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Just a quick question...
Can vehicles make feel no pain saves?
If not, why not?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/09 14:32:36
Subject: Vehicles and feel no pain?
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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They don't take wounds so can't take FNP, and can'y suffer ID either so nothing would ignore their FNP. Unless its FAQ'd otherwise in which case BA Land Raider spam will be everywhere.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/09 14:38:49
Subject: Vehicles and feel no pain?
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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No wounds = no FNP.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/09 14:42:38
Subject: Vehicles and feel no pain?
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
Wiltshire
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But I thought that argument was debunked for the "no cover saves" crowd. Doesn't it say they take saves as if the hits were wounds, so an unsaved glance/pen = unsaved wound?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/09 15:08:52
Subject: Re:Vehicles and feel no pain?
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Executing Exarch
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Vehicles are specifically told to take cover saves against glancing / penetrating hits "exactly like a non-vehicle model would do against a Wound" (Page 75 BRB, second bullet point).
Glances / Pens are not wounds, and are completely separate except where specifically noted (like above).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/09 16:16:12
Subject: Re:Vehicles and feel no pain?
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The Conquerer
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Yup, we are only told they can take cover saves against glance/pens, and its implicitly implied they can also take invulnerable saves.
Feel No Pain is explicitly against an unsaved wound, which can only be one thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/09 16:25:17
Subject: Re:Vehicles and feel no pain?
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Executing Exarch
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Grey Templar wrote:Yup, we are only told they can take cover saves against glance/pens, and its implicitly implied they can also take invulnerable saves.
Invulnerable saves were also added in a FAQ, so no longer any need to have this argument with your friends! (Yay!)
Page 17 – Invulnerable Saves
Change the second paragraph to “Invulnerable saves are different to armour saves because they may always be taken when ever the model suffers a Wound or, in the case of vehicles, suffers a penetrating or glancing hit – the Armour Piercing value of attacking weapons has no effect upon an Invulnerable save. Even if a Wound, penetrating hit or glancing hit ignores all armour saves, an invulnerable save can still be taken”.
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