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As the title says i am looking to find out what the new rules are (My Apoc book is on order). and if the Warp hunter is still a viable option for Hvy Support or if I should transition back to War Walkers, Prisim's and WraightKnights?

In the I.A. 11 the warphunter was beast for 125 points and pretty much was the work horse of my army due to the devestating nature of thier gun.

This is not an Apoc game so only 40k approved models are permitted in the games I play.

thank you for your feedback.

I believe the IA11 version is still the newest. I think it got reprinted but in the same exact form. Still the best HS choice hands down. AP2 pseudo-torrent flamer on a fast skimmer that also has a large blast barrage firing mode. What else could you want? It should be costed ~160 points and it would still be amazing.

thats what i thought but somebody in one of my army list posts stated that the rules have changed and something like a S7 AP 3 Hvy 3 small blast shot?

I don't know so i am looking to inquire from somebody that has seen the new rules and if it would still be viable.

I would take Bel Annath and take a 4th warphunter if my T.O.'s down here would allow it but they have banned Bel Annath (The only 40k approved model that they have banned).

Matt2429 wrote:
thats what i thought but somebody in one of my army list posts stated that the rules have changed and something like a S7 AP 3 Hvy 3 small blast shot?

That would be the Dark Eldar Reaper they are talking about from the sounds of it. As zephoid said, the most up to date Warp Hunter rules are the ones from IA11, so the ones you are already familiar with.

If you have good eyes you can see the new rules here http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/IMPERIAL_ARMOUR_APOCALYPSE.html

Ah right, so it will have new rules. Good to know. Might mean there are new rules for the Nightwing in there too that I will need to get before next month's tournament, so thanks for pointing this out.

No worries

S7 AP3 heavy 3 barrage blast distort

Or S7 AP3 distort flamer.

Honestly it doesnt effect it much except the flamer. Loss of that 6" torrent is huge. About the same vs most inf except terminators, just as good or better vs vehicles since S7 vs AV12-10 side armor from barrage. Toned down a lot, but still good. Access to 15 point holofields is at least a plus. Just wish it had the torrent flamer.

Edit: Nightwing is not listed in the table of contents, so no new rules. I like the current rules as they are better than the codex fliers but not OP.

I like the current Nightwing too, which is why I was concerned. Good that it hasn't been changed.

 zephoid wrote:
S7 AP3 heavy 3 barrage blast distort

Or S7 AP3 distort flamer.

Honestly it doesnt effect it much except the flamer. Loss of that 6" torrent is huge. About the same vs most inf except terminators, just as good or better vs vehicles since S7 vs AV12-10 side armor from barrage. Toned down a lot, but still good. Access to 15 point holofields is at least a plus. Just wish it had the torrent flamer.

I have to disagree with you on this because it lost its biggest asset, the AP2. This use to be my answer to riptides with the AP2 flamer

Matt2429 wrote:

 zephoid wrote:
S7 AP3 heavy 3 barrage blast distort

Or S7 AP3 distort flamer.

Honestly it doesnt effect it much except the flamer. Loss of that 6" torrent is huge. About the same vs most inf except terminators, just as good or better vs vehicles since S7 vs AV12-10 side armor from barrage. Toned down a lot, but still good. Access to 15 point holofields is at least a plus. Just wish it had the torrent flamer.

I have to disagree with you on this because it lost its biggest asset, the AP2. This use to be my answer to riptides with the AP2 flamer

But on exchange you're getting a 1/2 chance for the distort rule to come into effect... if you've a Farseer near

I don't understand the 1/2 chance for distor to come into play? I'm missing something with the farseer, can you please enlighten me?

He is assuming you hit with all 3 blasts than you have a 1/2 chance of getting a 6.

The new warp hunter has pros and cons, pros are 3 chances to ID MC/Pen Vehicles vs 1, 3 blasts can give you more hits.
cons 20 points more expensive, worse ap, secondary weapon nerf with holo fields its the same price but now your getting pretty expensive.

Its worth play testing, but not sure if it is still effective.

On as side note
The new hornets are most likely silly broken in terms of effectiveness per point.

tiber55 wrote:
On as side note
The new hornets are most likely silly broken in terms of effectiveness per point.

Isn't it amazing?

tiber55 wrote:
He is assuming you hit with all 3 blasts than you have a 1/2 chance of getting a 6.

The new warp hunter has pros and cons, pros are 3 chances to ID MC/Pen Vehicles vs 1, 3 blasts can give you more hits.
cons 20 points more expensive, worse ap, secondary weapon nerf with holo fields its the same price but now your getting pretty expensive.

Its worth play testing, but not sure if it is still effective.

On as side note
The new hornets are most likely silly broken in terms of effectiveness per point.

That's what I meant. Farseer is there just to ensure the re-roll on the artillery die

thanks for clarifying.