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I'm very new to playing 40k and have some games coming up and a couple people are bringing along landraiders. As a SM player what options do I have to hurt the landraider?

Is it only lascannon or conversion beamer to penetrate?

I was thinking of taking machine curse and lots of ML to glance it to death.

Am I right in thinking the strength of the weapon plus the dice roll has to be equal or higher than the av value?

Any tactics I've not thought about, I don't really want to a spend a lot of points (1000 ptt game) to counter the raoder only to lose thar as ot will be my oppoinants main target.
Thanks

Melta guns are quite effective. They get a bonus to penetration rolls at short range.

As above melts weaponry, or assault it with melts bombs. Look up the special rules 'melta' and 'armourbane'. Any weapon with either of these is going to really help in killing av 14.

Thanks, looks like melta it is! I've got a 5 man squad in a razorback with a melta gun and meltabomb so they have one target in this case!

I use Salamanders out of a drop pod (I find the combi-melta to be a lovely weapon) and tend to target vehicles first. Melta weapons always bring the pain.

Sternguard in drop pods.

ids1984 wrote:
I'm very new to playing 40k and have some games coming up and a couple people are bringing along landraiders. As a SM player what options do I have to hurt the landraider?

Is it only lascannon or conversion beamer to penetrate?

I was thinking of taking machine curse and lots of ML to glance it to death.

Am I right in thinking the strength of the weapon plus the dice roll has to be equal or higher than the av value?

Any tactics I've not thought about, I don't really want to a spend a lot of points (1000 ptt game) to counter the raoder only to lose thar as ot will be my oppoinants main target.
Thanks

At 1000 points, if someone is bringing a land raider, just ignore it IMO. That's a 1/4 of their points just for 1 and it can't hold an objective.

If you are intent on killing it, Melta is the most effective and reliable though.

a squad of wyches with haywire grenades will make quick work of a land raider. For that matter, lance weaponry of any kind

A zoanthrope is virtually guaranteed a pen, given that it's firing at S10 with Lance, and after that it's AP1 makes the thing outright exploding very likely.

I was thinking that but could an unchecked piece wreak my army?

Unfortunately I'm a SM player and it's single codex.


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 NickTheButcher wrote:

ids1984 wrote:
I'm very new to playing 40k and have some games coming up and a couple people are bringing along landraiders. As a SM player what options do I have to hurt the landraider?

Is it only lascannon or conversion beamer to penetrate?

I was thinking of taking machine curse and lots of ML to glance it to death.

Am I right in thinking the strength of the weapon plus the dice roll has to be equal or higher than the av value?

Any tactics I've not thought about, I don't really want to a spend a lot of points (1000 ptt game) to counter the raoder only to lose thar as ot will be my oppoinants main target.
Thanks

At 1000 points, if someone is bringing a land raider, just ignore it IMO. That's a 1/4 of their points just for 1 and it can't hold an objective.



If you are intent on killing it, Melta is the most effective and reliable though.

ids1984 wrote:
I was thinking that but could an unchecked piece wreak my army?

Unfortunately I'm a SM player and it's single codex.


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 NickTheButcher wrote:

ids1984 wrote:
I'm very new to playing 40k and have some games coming up and a couple people are bringing along landraiders. As a SM player what options do I have to hurt the landraider?

Is it only lascannon or conversion beamer to penetrate?

I was thinking of taking machine curse and lots of ML to glance it to death.

Am I right in thinking the strength of the weapon plus the dice roll has to be equal or higher than the av value?

Any tactics I've not thought about, I don't really want to a spend a lot of points (1000 ptt game) to counter the raoder only to lose thar as ot will be my oppoinants main target.
Thanks

At 1000 points, if someone is bringing a land raider, just ignore it IMO. That's a 1/4 of their points just for 1 and it can't hold an objective.



If you are intent on killing it, Melta is the most effective and reliable though.

Normally, I don't worry about the land raider - its the men inside.

With it being the biggest, most heavily armoured assault vehicle, people tend to put good assault squads inside them. You may need to stop them from reaching your lines.

Buy her a couple of drinks first, that always works for me.

PredaKhaine wrote:

ids1984 wrote:
I was thinking that but could an unchecked piece wreak my army?

Unfortunately I'm a SM player and it's single codex.


Automatically Appended Next Post:

 NickTheButcher wrote:

ids1984 wrote:
I'm very new to playing 40k and have some games coming up and a couple people are bringing along landraiders. As a SM player what options do I have to hurt the landraider?

Is it only lascannon or conversion beamer to penetrate?

I was thinking of taking machine curse and lots of ML to glance it to death.

Am I right in thinking the strength of the weapon plus the dice roll has to be equal or higher than the av value?

Any tactics I've not thought about, I don't really want to a spend a lot of points (1000 ptt game) to counter the raoder only to lose thar as ot will be my oppoinants main target.
Thanks

At 1000 points, if someone is bringing a land raider, just ignore it IMO. That's a 1/4 of their points just for 1 and it can't hold an objective.



If you are intent on killing it, Melta is the most effective and reliable though.

Normally, I don't worry about the land raider - its the men inside.

With it being the biggest, most heavily armoured assault vehicle, people tend to put good assault squads inside them. You may need to stop them from reaching your lines.

Having plasma spammers to follow up on the job of the Meltaguns is usually key to melt the termies. Although assault terminators you can only truly deal with by weight of fire.

I know it's not much use to you as a Space Marine player without Allies, but Smash attacks from MCs generally do the job.

Or the Turbo Penetrator round from a Vindicare Assassin.

But like everyone else says, in a 1k game, just ignore it. Unless it's a Redeemer, in which case kill the hell out of it quickly...

psychosheep22 wrote:
Buy her a couple of drinks first, that always works for me.

hur hur hur

reminds me of 2nd Ed rules, I had an Inquisitor in terminator armour with a force rod... I could get better penetration if I put force into my rod

Since nobody has mentioned it before.

Bikes / Attack Bikes with Multimelta & Meltabombs is supereffective against Land Raiders.

Just Turboboost T1, then the LandRaider will have a really hard time to get far enough from them to get their melta/charge in T2.

Guardsmen. Lots of Guardsmen.

The multi melta is the last word for anti-armor for imperial armies. The multi-melta also conveniently comes attached to T5 attack bikes. I can't tell you the difference between closing to 12" on a unit that moves 12" and getting some poor foot slogger within 6". Or even a jump marine within 6".

Martel732 wrote:
The multi melta is the last word for anti-armor for imperial armies. The multi-melta also conveniently comes attached to T5 attack bikes. I can't tell you the difference between closing to 12" on a unit that moves 12" and getting some poor foot slogger within 6". Or even a jump marine within 6".

Drop-podding salamanders sternguard called, they want their title back.

 Yonan wrote:
Guardsmen. Lots of Guardsmen.

'Cause pure Space Marine armies have lots of those

I'll still take the multimelta. Because I might be able to melt down your LR outside the assault range of the rest of the army. Heck if I can shoot some of the LR occupant to death, they might even fail to assault my bikes.

Sternguards, on the other hand, have an awfully hazardous job. Yeah, whatever they target is dead, but they are in a precarious spot to say the least.

Attack Bike Multimeltas, or Land Speeder double Multimelta can drive up or drop in for a blast.