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I was thinking of starting an imperial fists terminator heavy list. If the rumors are to be believed terminators for imperial fists can be heavy support for shooty ones, and elites for meelee ones. Now I don't have the price points but was thinking for an average game of say 1500 to 2000 points, something along the lines of:

Lysander

elites

3x 5 man thunder hammer squads.

troops

4x 10 man? tactical squads with maybe lascannons, with tank hunters could be pretty good.

heavy support

either 2 5x terminator squads with power fists and maybe an assault cannon

OR

3x 3 man centurions with either lascannons or grav cannons, depending on how reliable for vehicle killing they are. Tankhunters army wide can only make them better though.

Its a super low model count, and I have no idea what points I am sitting at atm. I would like something that has at least a 50/50 shot of winning games. But I don't really know how low model/terminator heavy armies are performing this edition.

Also someone was telling me land raiders are practically mandatory. Could I get by with just one to keep points count low, since Lysander has a homing beacon built in this upcoming book. Just deepstrike the termies behind it.

this may be a bit premature. We have just rumors to go on.

Hmm well how do mass termies work right now. I know spacewolves can do ok with drop pods, and dark angels have deathwing, but do termies get seen much outside of those armies anymore?

6th itself makes massed termies problematic.

Space Wolves and Dark Angels can do it but have to have an expensive character and expensive models to do it with. Space wolves poding in wolfguard in all likelihood is the best of the lot.

Space Marines and Blood Angels do not have scoring termies so massed boots on the ground are hard since your left usually msu-ing your scoring. With that said Lysander with 10 hammernators is a problem for your opponent and currently isnt 'that' expensive, though it will go up a c-bill in the new book.

 lazarian wrote:
6th itself makes massed termies problematic.

Space Wolves and Dark Angels can do it but have to have an expensive character and expensive models to do it with. Space wolves poding in wolfguard in all likelihood is the best of the lot.

Space Marines and Blood Angels do not have scoring termies so massed boots on the ground are hard since your left usually msu-ing your scoring. With that said Lysander with 10 hammernators is a problem for your opponent and currently isnt 'that' expensive, though it will go up a c-bill in the new book.

Sadface. And I was all excited to run like 4 or 5 5 man termie squads on the board. I don't like deathwing, Imperial fists is the only marine chapter I would run.

Well, i am considering the applications of Imperial fists centaurians.


4x standard cents pump out 12 heavy bolter and 12 standard bolter rounds all twinlinked at 24" range.

Lysander attatched to them and up front makes them survivable.

Could bubble wrap them with tac squad and just walk them up the field.

then 4x lazcannon/missle launcher cents 48" away blowing up all the nasty stuff, with another tac squad around them.


2 mini-bubbles of, I can shoot down 1 horde and 1 big nasty every game turn for 1210 points.

Eihnlazer wrote:
Well, i am considering the applications of Imperial fists centaurians.


4x standard cents pump out 12 heavy bolter and 12 standard bolter rounds all twinlinked at 24" range.

Lysander attatched to them and up front makes them survivable.

Could bubble wrap them with tac squad and just walk them up the field.

then 4x lazcannon/missle launcher cents 48" away blowing up all the nasty stuff, with another tac squad around them.


2 mini-bubbles of, I can shoot down 1 horde and 1 big nasty every game turn for 1210 points.

Why not use an aegis line for the guys just standing in the corner. 2+ save negates helldrakes, and 3+ cover covers lascannons and such anyway. That seems to be the trick stationary oblits use anyway

then those tacs can move around the field and do something useful.