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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/07 15:24:29
Subject: Horus Heresy saga
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i want to know if anyone know what i need to read after galaxy in flames  ... coz i know all the HH (excluding the first 3 books) are not sequel of each other... so... i'm reading this beautiful book  and i want to buy a new one XD now is a drug ehhehe thx in advance guys
sorry for my english
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/07 16:19:10
Subject: Horus Heresy saga
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Sniping Hexa
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Continue and read Flight of the Eisenstein and then Fulgrim to finish the main narrative. After that its completely up to you what you read but I would recommend The First Heretic as it helps give context on the first 5 books.
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Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:All I can say is... thank you vodo40k...
Zweischneid wrote:No way man. A Space Marine in itself is scary. But a Marine WITHOUT helmet wears at least 3-times as much plot-armour as a Marine with helmet. And heaven forbid if the Marine would also happen to have an intimidating looking, vertical scar. Then you're surly boned. Those guys are the worst. Not a chance I'd say.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/07 16:28:20
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy saga
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ty man  i will... after the first heretic i think take A thousand sons  and then know no fear?? any other suggestions?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/07 16:38:12
Subject: Horus Heresy saga
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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Technically I think Prospero Burns is sequentially earlier than ATS. But I found it a chore to read, so you may just skip it and read ATS as ultimately they both culminate in the attack on Prospero.
KNF is fairly good. Its anthology sequel Mark of Calth is fairly decent too.
Avoid Legion, it is silly.
Deliverance Lost is another you can easily skip as well.
Descent of Angels is mediocre and slow paced with no payoff.
Battle for the Abyss is absolutely awful and should be avoided at all costs. You'll never get that bit of your life back.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/07 16:40:31
Subject: Horus Heresy saga
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Morphing Obliterator
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You should read A Thousand Sons together with Prospero burns so you get both perspectives. The Dark Angels books are probably only interesting if you are really into DA. Imho Mechanicum was pretty interesting so it's probably worth a read
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/08 09:29:55
Subject: Horus Heresy saga
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Sniping Hexa
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Id say all of them are worth reading except the Dark Angels books (unless you REALY like DA) and battle for the abyss. My favourites (not including Flight of the Eisenstein) are Know No Fear, Age of Darkness and Prospero Burns (but the latter seems to have a love/hate relationship with the readers). The Eisenstein and Know No Fear introduce two very interesting sub plots...
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Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:All I can say is... thank you vodo40k...
Zweischneid wrote:No way man. A Space Marine in itself is scary. But a Marine WITHOUT helmet wears at least 3-times as much plot-armour as a Marine with helmet. And heaven forbid if the Marine would also happen to have an intimidating looking, vertical scar. Then you're surly boned. Those guys are the worst. Not a chance I'd say.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/08 10:25:35
Subject: Horus Heresy saga
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Furious Raptor
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I agree with the above except for skipping Legion. It is a good book, but again that is personal opinion.
The dark angel books are kind of lackbusters, same can be said about Battle of the Abyss.
I would leave Primarchs for later though as those short stories build on the previous books.
Mechanicum, the outlaw dead and nemesis are none astartes books given a good glimpse at life in the Imperium. I like them for this while others hate them.
Now where can I find Vulkan lives here in Japan? :(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/09 15:29:03
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy saga
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mmh... ok so when i finish lorgar... i buy prosperro burns or ATS??? after this 2 i will get KNF and then what?? age of darkness?? (woth to read it??  ) any can tell me what are books wich worth to read?? the first 3 is a must have... FOH and fulgrim too... KNF ATS i read too others idk and how should I read them to follow the canon? (i know its not all sequels of each other) TY guys
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/09 17:51:25
Subject: Horus Heresy saga
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Sniping Hexa
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Ideally read A Thousand Sons and Prospero Burns back to back but its not vital. Personal opinion on which is better, I know im in the minority when I say I preferred Prospero Burns, I found A Thousand Sons a bit dry. If you want to keep a sort of series going The First Heretic links directly into Know No Fear, then Betrayer and Mark of Calth link directly into that. That should give you plenty to be going on with. As mentioned theres no real "order" you should read them in after reading the first five, pick a legion or imperial organisation you like and roll with that.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/09/09 17:53:03
Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:All I can say is... thank you vodo40k...
Zweischneid wrote:No way man. A Space Marine in itself is scary. But a Marine WITHOUT helmet wears at least 3-times as much plot-armour as a Marine with helmet. And heaven forbid if the Marine would also happen to have an intimidating looking, vertical scar. Then you're surly boned. Those guys are the worst. Not a chance I'd say.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/09 17:54:24
Subject: Horus Heresy saga
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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In order:
Horus Rising - The seeds of Heresy are sown
False Gods - The Heresy takes root
Galaxy in Flames - The Heresy revealed
The Flight of the Eisenstein - The Heresy unfolds
Fulgrim - Visions of treachery
Descent of Angels - Loyalty and honour
Legion - Secrets and lies
Battle for the Abyss - My brother, my enemy
Mechanicum - War comes to Mars
Tales of Heresy - [Short story compilation]
Fallen Angels - Deceit and betrayal
A Thousand Sons - All is dust...
Nemesis - War within the shadows
The First Heretic - Fall to Chaos
Prospero Burns - The Wolves unleashed
Age of Darkness - [Short story compilation]
The Outcast Dead - The truth lies within
Deliverance Lost - Ghosts of Terra
Know No Fear - The battle of Calth
The Primarchs - [Novella compilation]
Fear to Tread - The Angel falls
Shadows of Treachery - [Short story and novella compilation]
Angel Exterminatus - Flesh and iron
Betrayer - Blood for the Blood God
Mark of Calth - [Short story and novella compilation]
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/09 17:57:38
Subject: Horus Heresy saga
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Sniping Hexa
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pretre wrote:In order:
Horus Rising - The seeds of Heresy are sown
False Gods - The Heresy takes root
Galaxy in Flames - The Heresy revealed
The Flight of the Eisenstein - The Heresy unfolds
Fulgrim - Visions of treachery
Descent of Angels - Loyalty and honour
Legion - Secrets and lies
Battle for the Abyss - My brother, my enemy
Mechanicum - War comes to Mars
Tales of Heresy - [Short story compilation]
Fallen Angels - Deceit and betrayal
A Thousand Sons - All is dust...
Nemesis - War within the shadows
The First Heretic - Fall to Chaos
Prospero Burns - The Wolves unleashed
Age of Darkness - [Short story compilation]
The Outcast Dead - The truth lies within
Deliverance Lost - Ghosts of Terra
Know No Fear - The battle of Calth
The Primarchs - [Novella compilation]
Fear to Tread - The Angel falls
Shadows of Treachery - [Short story and novella compilation]
Angel Exterminatus - Flesh and iron
Betrayer - Blood for the Blood God
Mark of Calth - [Short story and novella compilation]
Thats the release order, its not a necessity to read them in that order. I just got finished reading Mark of Calth and was really struggling to recall the details of Know no Fear I read over a year ago.
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Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:All I can say is... thank you vodo40k...
Zweischneid wrote:No way man. A Space Marine in itself is scary. But a Marine WITHOUT helmet wears at least 3-times as much plot-armour as a Marine with helmet. And heaven forbid if the Marine would also happen to have an intimidating looking, vertical scar. Then you're surly boned. Those guys are the worst. Not a chance I'd say.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/09 20:33:32
Subject: Horus Heresy saga
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Ghastly Grave Guard
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If you've just read mark of calth and Know no fear I would very much advise reading Betrayer, great great book!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/10 12:06:03
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy saga
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so... i will read ATS before or after prosperro burns?? (i think after XP) and for know no fear... must read... first heretic->mark of calth->KNF???? i dont know if mark of calth is before or after KNF?? ty for all the suggestion guys
sorry for my miss understanding some things guys :S
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/10 12:56:07
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy saga
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Malganys wrote:so... i will read ATS before or after prosperro burns?? (i think after XP) and for know no fear... must read... first heretic->mark of calth->KNF???? i dont know if mark of calth is before or after KNF?? ty for all the suggestion guys
sorry for my miss understanding some things guys :S
Seriously, just read them in the release order that perterterer posted and don't sweat it.
Welcome to the Horus Heresy side of the hobby!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/10 13:39:25
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy saga
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ehhehe yeah XD but cant buy all of them XP or maybe yes... but later.. so need to know wich one is a musrt to read  and in what order
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/10 16:27:43
Subject: Horus Heresy saga
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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vodo40k wrote:Ideally read A Thousand Sons and Prospero Burns back to back but its not vital. Personal opinion on which is better, I know im in the minority when I say I preferred Prospero Burns, I found A Thousand Sons a bit dry. If you want to keep a sort of series going The First Heretic links directly into Know No Fear, then Betrayer and Mark of Calth link directly into that. That should give you plenty to be going on with. As mentioned theres no real "order" you should read them in after reading the first five, pick a legion or imperial organisation you like and roll with that.
A Thousand Sons makes more sense to read first as it gives a clear picture as to *why* the Space Wolves invade Prospero and also better details the invasion. The invasion is only a small part of the Prospero Burns story, though, so can be a good follw-up read. So far the only book in the series I have not liked is Nemesis. I've tried to read it multiple times and keep putting it down because it just doesn't pull me in or make me care about the story at all. I'll give it one more try and if it doesn't work I'll dump it at the used book store.
Part of the problem with trying to read the series "in order" is that there is a lot of overlap in the books across the timeline of the original trilogy and later periods of the heresy in them. So some books go back to the time of the first book in the original trilogy, or before and there is no simple timeline. I've just gone with the concept of reading the books based on the time of their release as aside from the original trilogy the timing is just hard to settle for the rest.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/10 16:32:59
Subject: Horus Heresy saga
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I don't think there is such a thing as MUST read, but I didn't care for any of the Dark Angels book, nor did I feel that they added much to the overall timeline. But then, I don't really care for the Dark Angels.
The only must reads would be anything by Aaron Dembski-Bowden.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/11 01:09:37
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy saga
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Death-Dealing Dark Angels Devastator
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These are my favorite "must read" HH novels (outside the first three), in no particular order.
Mechanicum
Legion
Prospero Burns
A Thousand Sons
Know No Fear
Know No Fear is IMO the best book in the series, and one of the best books I've read in years. It almost made me a ultramarines fan, almost...
As previously stated, Battle for the Abyss was terribad. I felt it got almost tolerable towards the end but holy crap was the beginning awful. The authors depiction of the Space Wolf was just so corny and stupid... The Dark Angles books I thought were pretty good for what they are but don’t expect much on the heresy itself. The entire first book and 75% of the second predate the heresy itself and don’t give any insight to the wider galaxy or crusade. To contrast that, Legion is entirely pre Heresy but the events in the book tie into the big picture.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/11 14:39:39
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy saga
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ok so a thousand sons and then prosperro burns  ... for know no fear what i must read before or after??? any book?? i hear mark of calth... but idk
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/11 15:37:44
Subject: Horus Heresy saga
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Ghastly Grave Guard
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Betrayer. Automatically Appended Next Post: I would listen to butchers nails fist though
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/12 12:49:44
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy saga
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before or after knf?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/15 13:10:36
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy saga
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betrayer -> knf ->mark of calth???
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/15 13:37:32
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy saga
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Before doing any of that, read the first 4 books:
Horus Rising - The seeds of Heresy are sown
False Gods - The Heresy takes root
Galaxy in Flames - The Heresy revealed
The Flight of the Eisenstein - The Heresy unfolds
It sets the stage for the entire series.
After that, you can jump around a bit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/15 14:06:58
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy saga
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yeah i know  i'm finishing galaxy in flames and alredy have flight of eisenstein but Fulgrim is not a sequel of flight for eisenstein?? so i'm right ??? betrayer then KNF and after tath mark of calth???
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/15 14:28:47
Subject: Horus Heresy saga
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Ghastly Grave Guard
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Betrayer after know no fear not before
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/15 15:15:51
Subject: Horus Heresy saga
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Morphing Obliterator
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Iirc the sequence of the Word Bearers/Ultramarines sub-plot is so far:
First Heretic
Know no fear
Betrayer
Mark of Calth
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/17 13:59:01
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy saga
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thx guys!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/19 15:46:40
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy saga
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any know when the battle of terra book will be relased?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/22 13:13:49
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy saga
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Sniping Hexa
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I think thats a question we would all like the answer to.... Not long I hope, id hope within the next 5 book releases.
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Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:All I can say is... thank you vodo40k...
Zweischneid wrote:No way man. A Space Marine in itself is scary. But a Marine WITHOUT helmet wears at least 3-times as much plot-armour as a Marine with helmet. And heaven forbid if the Marine would also happen to have an intimidating looking, vertical scar. Then you're surly boned. Those guys are the worst. Not a chance I'd say.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/22 14:09:14
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy saga
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The problem with Battle of Terra is that it is going to have to be so epic, the first few books detailing the beginning of the Heresy namely Galaxy in Flames, Flight of the Eisenstein, and then Betrayer gives me hope that they could do justice to the Siege at the Imperial Palace.
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