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This is my idea for an Imperial Fists army. Not sure on points sorry, but I... think... this fits into 1000 points...?

Lysander
Terminator Assault Squad (5) Thunder Hammers Storm Shields

Tactical Squad (10)
Tactical Squad (10)

Devastator Squad (5)

Not sure on the equipment for the tac squads and dev squads (though maybe missile launchers with flakk missiles if possible?)
It would be good to fit in an Ageis Defence Line too for the Devastator Squad.

So what do you think? Will this work at 1000 points? I was trying to stay away from vehicles for now but a land raider for the terminators and lysander would be cool...?

Thanks

What are the devs armed with?
This army is pretty slow.
Transports?

Not sure on the equipment for the tac squads and dev squads (though maybe missile launchers with flakk missiles if possible?) I was trying to stay away from vehicles for now but a land raider for the terminators and lysander would be good...?

Yes it would be pretty slow but then that would only be bad for the assault terminators so maybe replace them with tactical terminators and a terminator captain???

What would you suggest for just a 500 Imperial Fists army?

Thanks

This is how I See this, At 1000 Points, rate of fire is a lot of the game mostly because of armies that play low level blob, Ork comes to mind obviously.

Lysander 230
Term w/ TH SS (5) 225
this is 455

..then
Tac FL ML Combi-FL (10) 170
Tac FL ML Combi-FL (10) 170
this is 340

so already before the dev squad you are at 785 and this results in a "rock" unit. Your terminators. I don't advice terminators at this point cost, but if you want them go for it.

This list would do itself some help if those terminators were say another set of Devs? Would make the list very shooty and you could afford transports very easily. This also capitalizes on the chapter tactics youre aiming for.

I would continue the now 785 list like this.
Take away 225 of terminators, now being at 560.

2x Rhino Transport 70 (You NEED mobility no matter what)
now youre at 630, wtih PLENTY of room for dev dakka.

So you have say room for...

2x Dev Squad HBx3 MLx1 (10) 370

So the final list would look like...
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Lysander 230

Tac FL ML Combi-FL (10) 170
Rhino Transport 70

Tac FL ML Combi-FL (10) 170
Rhino Transport 70

Dev Squad HBx3 MLx1 (10) 370

Dev Squad HBx3 MLx1 (10) 370

The extra marines in your dev squads are basically a buffer for wounds as well as a buffer for close combat, because if someone Deep Strikes close, they will be more careful or take 9x HB 5x Bolter ?x ML attacks before they charge, saying they are out of Rapid Fire range, Which they would hope to be.


Terminators are good but they lose to mass small arms fire as well as low AP fire. And there is a lot of the former in low points games usually. And with the lack of flyers and heavy arms, the 2xML should handle that for you, unless someone plays 13TERM in your local meta, in which case you may need 2 melta in tactical squads.


I seem to have gone on and on so I'll stop and hope this has helped at least.

PS. Now that I look at it, the only real reason to take lysander is durability. I dont know if id chalk those points in a 1k point game. Think Id opt for a Librarian in Terminator Armor with the Eternal Warrior Relic or something.

For only 1000 pts a start could be:

Lysander
Terminator - 5 hammer/shield
Tactical - plasma cannon, grav gun
Tactical - plasma cannon, grav gun
Devastator - 4 plasma cannons
Stalker

This many plasma could also be a downfall with bad rolls, or try 2 las and 2 plasma in the Dev squad.
This is pretty straight forward as you could also deep strike your deathstar, but hes right about it being pretty slow as you foot slog all the way around the board.

Hmmm Ok thanks.

I like the tactical squads in rhinos, although what about two razorbacks with a 5 man tac squad in each?

Lysander would be a lone wolf in your list Awfeel, wouldn't that be a problem?

Bizzak - could the stalker be replaced with another dev squad?

Is an ageis defence line worth it?

Thanks

you put lysander in with a tac squad. let him tank some of the wounds. 2+ armor and a storm sheild for 3+ invul save is pretty effective at stoping small arms fire. I used him just that way recently. Worked great till I tried to eat a powerklaw in cc lol

I just played a game tonight where I was against chaos. It should be noted that while I won, he had zero helldrakes, so basically fluffy. This is 1500, but if it was supposed to be 1k, I would drop Lysander and the termies for a cheaper librarian or something, and maybe the whirlwind.

What I ran:

Lysander
5x TH/SS termies deep striking. (not recommended, but I play for fun)

5x scouts, sniper rifles, teleport homer
land speeder storm, multi melta

5x scouts, sniper rifles, teleport homer
land speeder storm, multi melta

5x Tactical marines, heavy bolter

5x Tactical marines, heavy bolter

Storm talon, missles

3x bike squad, 2x grav gun

Whirwind

Thunderfire cannon

10x devastators, 4x missile launchers, 3x flakk

Worked ok for me, again the other list wasent a waac list either, so it balanced out. Might get spanked by say tau or elder waveserpent spam, necron stuff, chaos with helldrakes.

Hmm I don't know tbh. I think i'll have to proxy an army and have a go.

Can you suggest a 500 point and a 1000 point footslogging army list please? (preferably lysander and terminators included at 1000 please

Thanks