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2013/09/10 08:11:17
Subject: space marine FAQ is up ..
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3450050a_Space_Marines_v1.0_SEPTEMBER13.pdf
Page 164 – Command Squads, options
Add the following option to this list.
“Any Veteran may take items from the Special Weaponslist.”
Page 174 – Bike Squad, options
Add the following option to this list.
Any model may replace his bolt pistol with a chainsword......free
No other FAQ changes -- recent servo arm changes aside -- as far as I can see.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2013/09/10 10:09:54
Subject: space marine FAQ is up ..
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Regular Dakkanaut
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confused, and not feeling great today and at work to top it off. But, swapping the bolt pistol for a CS wouldn't make any difference apart from losing a shooting attack?
I'm probably missing something,
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2013/09/10 10:11:45
Subject: space marine FAQ is up ..
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
somewhere in the northern side of the beachball
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Eberious wrote:confused, and not feeling great today and at work to top it off. But, swapping the bolt pistol for a CS wouldn't make any difference apart from losing a shooting attack?
I'm probably missing something,
You can now buy special weapons for bikes.
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Every time I hear "in my opinion" or "just my opinion" makes me want to strangle a puppy. People use their opinions as a shield that other poeple can't critisize and that is bs.
If you can't defend or won't defend your opinion then that "opinion" is bs. Stop trying to tip-toe and defend what you believe in. |
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2013/09/10 11:00:37
Subject: space marine FAQ is up ..
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Horrific Howling Banshee
Hemel Hempstead
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Maximum relentless grav guns are go!
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2013/09/10 11:18:29
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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Eberious wrote:confused, and not feeling great today and at work to top it off. But, swapping the bolt pistol for a CS wouldn't make any difference apart from losing a shooting attack?
I'm probably missing something,
It's a legacy option. If I remember correctly, they've been including the option for bikers to take a pistol or a close combat weapon since 2nd edition (back when there was actually a reason for them to have them) simply because they're on the bike squadron models.
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2013/09/10 13:09:02
Subject: space marine FAQ is up ..
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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GW's shortest FAQ ever? Seems like it.
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Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
Manchu wrote:I'm a Catholic. We eat our God.
Due to work, I can usually only ship any sales or trades out on Saturday morning. Please trade/purchase with this in mind. |
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2013/09/10 13:18:54
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Wasn't the first Chaos Space Marines FAQ just: The Helbrute should be 100 points, not 105. Sorry. Our bad.
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2013/09/10 13:20:14
Subject: space marine FAQ is up ..
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Executing Exarch
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The eldar one after the new codex said
'Whoops, Night spinner has blast not large blast  '
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 Blacksails wrote:
Its because ordinance is still a word.
However, firing ordinance at someone isn't nearly as threatening as firing ordnance at someone.
Ordinance is a local law, or bill, or other form of legislation.
Ordnance is high caliber explosives.
No 'I' in ordnance.
Don't drown the enemy in legislation, drown them in explosives.
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2013/09/10 13:41:42
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Aizuwakamatsu, Fukushima, Japan
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 PredaKhaine wrote:The eldar one after the new codex said
'Whoops, Night spinner has blast not large blast '
I think you mean Before the new codex. The Eldar one was certainly the quickest release.
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2013/09/10 13:43:28
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Executing Exarch
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Chrysis wrote: PredaKhaine wrote:The eldar one after the new codex said
'Whoops, Night spinner has blast not large blast '
I think you mean Before the new codex. The Eldar one was certainly the quickest release.
ha, yeah
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Blacksails wrote:
Its because ordinance is still a word.
However, firing ordinance at someone isn't nearly as threatening as firing ordnance at someone.
Ordinance is a local law, or bill, or other form of legislation.
Ordnance is high caliber explosives.
No 'I' in ordnance.
Don't drown the enemy in legislation, drown them in explosives.
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2013/09/10 13:43:58
Subject: space marine FAQ is up ..
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
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 reds8n wrote:
No other FAQ changes -- recent servo arm changes aside -- as far as I can see.
I was looking but I did not see the servo arm change. What was it?
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"I have traveled trough the Realm of Death and brought back novelty pencils"
Oh, somewhere in this favored land the sun is shining bright;
the band is playing somewhere and somewhere hearts are light,and somewhere men are laughing, and somewhere children shout but there is no joy in Mudville — mighty Casey has struck out. |
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2013/09/10 14:03:07
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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Phrased that badly, apologies.
They've FAQed the other codices so the servo arms are now the same as they are in the new marine book.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2013/09/10 14:03:59
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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Edit: Ninja'ed 
It's in the IG FAQ, just matching the wording to the servo arm entry in the new SM book (might be in some of the other FAQs too, but that's the one I saw it in).
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2013/09/10 14:19:14
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Long-Range Land Speeder Pilot
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So this fixes the 'issue' of command squads not having ranged weapons? Because that was silly.
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2013/09/10 14:42:18
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
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It fixes the issue they they had no access to "Special Weapons" I.E. Plasma Guns, Melta Guns, Flamers and Grav Guns.
And thanks for the servo arm clarification.
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"I have traveled trough the Realm of Death and brought back novelty pencils"
Oh, somewhere in this favored land the sun is shining bright;
the band is playing somewhere and somewhere hearts are light,and somewhere men are laughing, and somewhere children shout but there is no joy in Mudville — mighty Casey has struck out. |
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2013/09/10 14:55:54
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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Glad to see the CS special weapons fixed.
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2013/09/10 15:16:56
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Mighty Vampire Count
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Very disapointed they have not clarified / fixed the BT Sisters Allies issue.
Just need a short line to say the BRB Black Templars Ally Matrix should not be used due its complete incompatability with the actual background text of the codex.
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I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos 
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/528517.page
A Bloody Road - my Warhammer Fantasy Fiction |
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2013/09/10 15:27:44
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
Gone-to-ground in the craters of Coventry
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Chrysis wrote: PredaKhaine wrote:The eldar one after the new codex said
'Whoops, Night spinner has blast not large blast '
I think you mean Before the new codex. The Eldar one was certainly the quickest release.
You scared me there.
The Night Spinner's large blast. It's the Shadow Weaver that got Blast.
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2013/09/10 16:32:31
Subject: space marine FAQ is up ..
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Regular Dakkanaut
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 insaniak wrote:Eberious wrote:confused, and not feeling great today and at work to top it off. But, swapping the bolt pistol for a CS wouldn't make any difference apart from losing a shooting attack?
I'm probably missing something,
It's a legacy option. If I remember correctly, they've been including the option for bikers to take a pistol or a close combat weapon since 2nd edition (back when there was actually a reason for them to have them) simply because they're on the bike squadron models.
Well, what it really does is actually allow bikes to take special weapons. Otherwise, with the current wording in the codex, the biker has no bolter or CCW to exchange for the special wep. Now he can exchange his bolt pistol for a CS, which he can then exchange for a special wep.
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2013/09/10 16:42:36
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Courageous Silver Helm
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Well it's good that they clarified that CS can now take a special weapon. I was mighty miffed when I saw that (didn't want to redo my command squad again).
Also, it seems to me that in the blurb about the Black Templar detachment it say you should ignore all references to codex Black Templar.
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40k:  - Cadian 231st,  Death Guard,  Sisters,  Dark Eldar  Iyanden,  Scythes of the Emperor
WHFB Armies: High Elves, Empire, WoC, Beastmen, Lizardmen, Dark Elves, Vampires
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2013/09/10 18:28:59
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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So, this is pretty much "pants on head" of me, but it says certain squads can take special weapons...where is the full list of "specials" located? Is it supposed to be in the SM book and I kept passing it? Or is it in the BRB? I have both, so a page number is perfectly fine. I just wanted to know if "special" includes melee toys like LCs and PWs or just MGs, PGs, Flamers, GGs, etc.
I haven't played a game of 6th yet, and I'm still trying to get used to the new style of setting up wargear into groups, instead of them listing out what is allowed.
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Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
Manchu wrote:I'm a Catholic. We eat our God.
Due to work, I can usually only ship any sales or trades out on Saturday morning. Please trade/purchase with this in mind. |
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2013/09/10 18:30:28
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Old Sourpuss
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 timetowaste85 wrote:So, this is pretty much "pants on head" of me, but it says certain squads can take special weapons...where is the full list of "specials" located? Is it supposed to be in the SM book and I kept passing it? Or is it in the BRB? I have both, so a page number is perfectly fine. I just wanted to know if "special" includes melee toys like LCs and PWs or just MGs, PGs, Flamers, GGs, etc.
After the pretty pictures of the models in the book, there is a section that has upgrades on the right page. They're broken down into things like, "Relic", Terminator Weapons, Special Weapons, Heavy Weapons, etc...
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2013/09/10 18:31:52
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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 Turalon wrote:Also, it seems to me that in the blurb about the Black Templar detachment it say you should ignore all references to codex Black Templar.
That's not what it says, but that debate has already been well and truly hashed out in YMDC.
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2013/09/10 18:32:07
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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^must have missed the "special" section. I was very tired when I picked it up. As I prefaced though, PoH question.
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Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
Manchu wrote:I'm a Catholic. We eat our God.
Due to work, I can usually only ship any sales or trades out on Saturday morning. Please trade/purchase with this in mind. |
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2013/09/10 18:33:20
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Old Sourpuss
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insaniak wrote: Turalon wrote:Also, it seems to me that in the blurb about the Black Templar detachment it say you should ignore all references to codex Black Templar.
That's not what it says, but that debate has already been well and truly hashed out in YMDC.
What thread is that in? I wanted to read it, but couldn't find it. People seem more concerned with the Command Squad Apoth.
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Ask me about Brushfire or Endless: Fantasy Tactics |
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2013/09/10 18:40:05
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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Alf, it got locked. Neither side was willing to back down. Actually, going back and rereading the blurb, it would all be solved by a single comma. Without it, I suppose it could be argued for or against. I think the big reason for the issue is because BT players WANT access to allying with sisters, and the background supports this now, but fluff=/= rules here. Not derailing further, but it's definitely in YMDC.
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Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
Manchu wrote:I'm a Catholic. We eat our God.
Due to work, I can usually only ship any sales or trades out on Saturday morning. Please trade/purchase with this in mind. |
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2013/09/10 18:44:11
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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2013/09/10 18:48:33
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Shrieking Guardian Jetbiker
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so they can faq the space marine and imperial guard codex to fix the servo arm across them all, but can't make harlequins the same in the dark eldar and eldar codex...
consistency. none of it. all the time.
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"Russ - This guy is basically werewolf Dick Cheney. No pity at all."
-Vulgar, because it was too funny not to steal |
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2013/09/10 19:21:56
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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Yeah, the harlequin faq is bs. Complete waste of points if you go by the faq. That squad sucks. My house rules throws faqs out unless voted that the rule is better than the rules i paid hard earned cash for. Faqs are just a suggestion to me.
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I am The Fury. The flames of my rage will incinerate you. I came back from space. As I returned, I had one vision. The world set ablaze. And do you know what I saw there? (he aims his flamethrower upwards and incinerates a group of bats) Fury! A great and terrible Fury at being alive. Now you're going to feel the scorching heat of that horrible blackness. |
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2013/09/10 20:15:34
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Dankhold Troggoth
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For tournies and organized events, FAQs are almost always used... of course (as you say) for house rules they can be whatever you like and you can ignore it
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