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As with the Morats, so Corregidor has acquired my attention with it's recent releases and teasers. Now seems like as good a time as any to prepare a list for the coming releases.


The idea here is simple, cram four Gecko's into a 300pt list. Why? Because it's four TAGs. Four! Don't tell me that doesn't make you smile. Now, at 300pts you're pretty much limited to taking an Alguacil link and you're obviously going to want a Clockmaker what with all that machinery clanking around. Well that leaves very little room to play in. In the first incarnation I've taken two Zondbots for the Clockmaker which just allows me to upgrade an Alguacil to HMG. The second, inspired by/stolen from PsychoticStorm, drops a Zondbot and trades up on the HMG for a hacker. I can see arguments for both lists but I could use advice from more experienced players here. Is an Alguacil hacker worth his salt? That's the big question.

List one with the +3 Burst HMG:

Nomads - Corregidor Jurisdictional Command | 10 models
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Gecko Combi (54|1)
Gecko Combi (54|1)
Gecko Combi (54|1)
Gecko Combi (54|1)
Alguacil Lieutenant (10|1)
Alguacil HMG (19|1)
Alguacil Combi (10|0)
Alguacil Combi (10|0)
Alguacil Combi (10|0)
Clockmaker Engineer (18|0)
Zondbot (3|0)
Zondbot (3|0)
________________________________________________________
299/300 points | 6/6 swc

List two brings up the hacker in place of the HMG and Zondbot. I'm swaying towards this list as that hacker adds an extra layer of protection to the TAGs, however weak. I'd like to hear some thoughts on this though:

Nomads - Corregidor Jurisdictional Command | 10 models
________________________________________________________
Gecko Combi (54|1)
Gecko Combi (54|1)
Gecko Combi (54|1)
Gecko Combi (54|1)
Alguacil Lieutenant (10|1)
Alguacil Hacker (22|0.5)
Alguacil Combi (10|0)
Alguacil Combi (10|0)
Alguacil Combi (10|0)
Clockmaker Engineer (18|0)
Zondbot (3|0)
________________________________________________________
299/300 points | 5.5/6 swc

Looks good - think an all helmeted Alguacil should look cool, going off the theme of some kind of space-based assault force. Presumably the new miniatures for the Alguacil should be along soon?

That's a cool idea! I hadn't really considered a theme much as I plan on making them a second arm of my Heralds of the Knife. As always though I'll be indulging in conversion so I may well try a helmeted version.

I'm not sure when the Alguacils are due but they should be well before the Gecko I imagine. I'll likely pick them up and get them ready when they come out so that I just have the Gecko's left to do.

Haha, I've looked at 300pt lists as well and they've pretty much turned out the same as what you've got. I dont profess to be an expert but I think you'd want some of the Mk12 and blitzen variants rather than all straight combi's. In the few games I've done its been a struggle to move heavy infantry in cover with just combis, even if you have 2. So I think I'd rather have a couple of the Mk12 variants for these cases. Plus if its too hard to move him you can just fry the guy with the blitzen and if they have no engineers, its as good as dead.

Plus there's also the extra range...

Lol, 4 TAGs? I was stoked when I saw Morats could take two Raichos in one list. Now I feel so outclassed - though I'm sure 53 point TAGs can't be all that powerful

Do it, you glorious bastard. Dunno if it will be any good but its certainly an awesome idea

Will be great when the Alguacils do come along - the one sample of the new style we have seen so far certainly looks very promising!

Actually Casey you've got me thinking of doing another list now.. possibly painting up the geckos in individual styles, where the pilots have added their own logos/grafitti, kill marking and paintings (like the ones you get on the noses of real life military aircraft) - and perhaps some minor conversion work to each, as though they are some kind of hard-core space boarding and resource requisition outfit

Impractical but I like it, going along with Pacifics individual TAGs idea, 3 TAGs this time with Wildcats as support.

JURISDICTIONAL COMMAND OF CORREGIDOR
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GROUP 1 8 0 0

IGUANA HMG, Heavy Flamethrower / . (2 | 73)
IGUANA OPERATOR HMG / Pistol, Knife.
GECKO 2 Combi Rifles, Chain-colt, Panzerfaust / . (1 | 54)
GECKO PILOT Pistol, Knife.
GECKO 2 Combi Rifles, Chain-colt, Panzerfaust / . (1 | 54)
GECKO PILOT Pistol, Knife.
WILDCAT Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (19)
WILDCAT Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (19)
WILDCAT Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 31)
WILDCAT Engineer Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (23)
WILDCAT Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 25)

6 SWC | 298 Points

Open with Army 4

I know 8 orders in 300pts is suicide but it would look so nice, especially with the helmet only Wildcats

 Dakkamite wrote:
Lol, 4 TAGs? I was stoked when I saw Morats could take two Raichos in one list. Now I feel so outclassed - though I'm sure 53 point TAGs can't be all that powerful

They're about equal in power with heavy infantry, just with TAG type stats (like Structure) thrown in. So they're not exactly equal with the Raicho in power, nor outclassing a pair of Raichos.

Though I'd hazard a guess it's far harder to build an effective Morat list around 2 Raichos than it is a Corregidor list around 4 Geckos. Morat infantry tends to be very epensive without eating 2/3 of the list with a pair of TAGs.

Thanks for all the comments guys! Sorry about the delay on my reply.

rahxephon wrote:Haha, I've looked at 300pt lists as well and they've pretty much turned out the same as what you've got. I dont profess to be an expert but I think you'd want some of the Mk12 and blitzen variants rather than all straight combi's. In the few games I've done its been a struggle to move heavy infantry in cover with just combis, even if you have 2. So I think I'd rather have a couple of the Mk12 variants for these cases. Plus if its too hard to move him you can just fry the guy with the blitzen and if they have no engineers, its as good as dead.
Plus there's also the extra range...

Haha, right? This list is pretty much the same for anyone who wants to do it, you only get left with a few points at the end. I completely agree about the Blitzen versions, that was a bit of an almost on purpose oversight. My OCD was really pushing me to take two for symmetry but their isn't room so I left it out while I convinced myself that one is okay. To fit two in I'd have to drop a Zond which seems like a really bad move with 4 TAGs on the table. Which do you think is more important? It would leave me with no Zondbots if I take a hacker or one if I take the HMG. I'll sum up the options at the end.
Also as a complete noob question, how do you the Panzerfaust and Blitzen compare?

-Loki- wrote:

Dakkamite wrote:Lol, 4 TAGs? I was stoked when I saw Morats could take two Raichos in one list. Now I feel so outclassed - though I'm sure 53 point TAGs can't be all that powerful
Do it, you glorious bastard. Dunno if it will be any good but its certainly an awesome idea

They're about equal in power with heavy infantry, just with TAG type stats (like Structure) thrown in. So they're not exactly equal with the Raicho in power, nor outclassing a pair of Raichos.
Though I'd hazard a guess it's far harder to build an effective Morat list around 2 Raichos than it is a Corregidor list around 4 Geckos. Morat infantry tends to be very epensive without eating 2/3 of the list with a pair of TAGs.

Haha yeh, pretty crazy stuff. I think Loki has it right, it's best to think of them as HI with TAG styled stat lines. But honestly I couldn't give a damn as long as i can put four TAGs down on the table.

Pacific wrote:Will be great when the Alguacils do come along - the one sample of the new style we have seen so far certainly looks very promising!
Actually Casey you've got me thinking of doing another list now.. possibly painting up the geckos in individual styles, where the pilots have added their own logos/grafitti, kill marking and paintings (like the ones you get on the noses of real life military aircraft) - and perhaps some minor conversion work to each, as though they are some kind of hard-core space boarding and resource requisition outfit

Yeh the hacker Alguacil is a great looking miniature, if I don't take a hacker I'll be using her as a pilot for sure.

And dude, get out of my head! Haha, great minds think alike I guess. My plan for this force is to have them as another arm of my Heralds, they'll use the same Clockmaker and Pilot. The story will be that my Pilot, Jockey, has gone back to Corregidor, where she grew up in a slum, to recruit some old friends as pilots. Think Fast and Furious in uniform. Gecko's all self styled and customized on top of my standard scheme.

KoganStyle wrote:Impractical but I like it, going along with Pacifics individual TAGs idea, 3 TAGs this time with Wildcats as support.
*snip**snip*
I know 8 orders in 300pts is suicide but it would look so nice, especially with the helmet only Wildcats

Wildcats are definitely slick and I'd take them if I could fit them in. It's a fun sounding list but the real point is to take the four Geckos but I'll no doubt be getting an Iguana at some point anyway, and an Anaconda, to complete the Reptile series.


So what I really need to decide is how to optimize the last few points in this list:
1 Blitzen, Alguacil HMG and 2 Zondbots
1 Blitzen, Alguacil Hacker and 1 Zondbot
I also have the option to drop another Zondbot from each one which frees up the points to make all the Gecko's Blitzen format.
Any thoughts?

Thanks again for the replies folks!

I think you definitely want to keep the zondbot. With 12 STR points on the table, an engineer is bound to see a bit of use and so make a target of himself. No point making it any easier to get him.

I'd take a panzerfaust over a blitzen. There aren't many targets with such a large ARM and low BTS that 2 BTS rolls are preferable to 3 AP ARM rolls. But in this case it is what its paired with. The Mk12s range puts you into a lot of weapons negative modifiers and then there is also the 15 DAM. So whilst I'd like a Mk15 + panzerfaust, generally the panzerfaust will be saved for things that are also vulnerable to E/M, and so a blitzen will suffice for me. Plus, with the blitzen they only need to fail once.

I hear you about symmetry, it is satisfying. But the points do come out nicer with just the 1 Mk12 variant. It is a bit difficult with more.

I see little use in the alguacil hacker. He/she (wow, model variants now) is hardly going to be an offensive hacker. And for defence, I'd look to a wildcat instead with their strangely high BTS. But seeing as that's a bit out of the points bracket I'd just loose them entirely. If an opponent is hacker heavy enough to stop 4 tags, then one hacker of your own probably wont help much. More than likely that his own hacking device will just get disabled.

That leaves 22pts left, which fits in nicely with our friendly neighbourhood tomcat. I think chucking in a tomcat engineer would work well, synchronizing with the clockmaker by looking to deep field geckos and then also doing their usual thing to boot. Plus I feel uncomfortable with no direct template weapons, no ones got time to discover stuff. When in doubt, burn it out.

So;
3x combi geckos
1x Mk12 gecko
4x alguacils (lieutenant as well)
1x tomcat engineer
1x clockmaker + zondbot
5.5SWC & 300pts

Thank you for explaining the Blitzen and Panzerfaust Gecko types so clearly, nice and simple for my noob brain to comprehend. Sounds like a mix is best in that case. I also have a cunning plan to cover my OCD requirement for symmetry, based on the story I'm working around it would make sense that Jockey would have a special ride of her own. I'll give her the Mk12 and in my head she's in charge so it's okay.

The Tomcat is really gumming up my works though, it's such a good suggestion that I'm going to need to have a think about it. I have many pros and cons to go over in my head for that one. You've convinced me about the Hacker though, I'll not be using that list. Don't turn up to a gang fight with a butter knife. That has given a lot of weight to my HMG list though which I'm now going to pit against the Tomcat. I'll have to go think this over.

*After a period of research and reflection...*

I have come to a few conclusions. The Tomcat doesn't push my buttons. 5 man link teams do. This list doesn't have to take itself too seriously. These conclusions make things easier.

Firstly I could take the Hacker list with a Mk12/Blitzen capping it off:

Nomads - Corregidor Jurisdictional Command | 10 models
________________________________________________________
Gecko Mk12 (55|1.5)
Gecko Combi (54|1)
Gecko Combi (54|1)
Gecko Combi (54|1)
Alguacil Lieutenant (10|1)
Alguacil Hacker (22|0.5)
Alguacil Combi (10|0)
Alguacil Combi (10|0)
Alguacil Combi (10|0)
Clockmaker Engineer (18|0)
Zondbot (3|0) ________________________________________________________
300/300 points | 6/6 swc

Or I could go with this altered version of the HMG list... without HMG.

Nomads - Corregidor Jurisdictional Command | 10 models
________________________________________________________

Gecko Mk12 (55|1.5)
Gecko Mk12 (55|1.5)
Gecko Combi (54|1)
Gecko Combi (54|1)
Alguacil Lieutenant (10|1)
Alguacil Combi (10|0)
Alguacil Combi (10|0)
Alguacil (14|0)
Alguacil (14|0)
Clockmaker Engineer (18|0)
Zondbot (3|0)
Zondbot (3|0)
________________________________________________________
300/300 points | 6/6 swc

As you can see there are two blank profiles in this list. There are two profiles that fit but I haven't decided how to allocate them, I could use some advice.
Alguacil FO/Repeater (14|0)
I don't have a Hacker in this list so the Repeater is worthless, I'm not sure the FO is worth much either. Am I wrong?
Alguacil Paramedic (14|0)
One of these seems like a good idea. Two feels like overkill but if I have the points to spend I may as well take two right?

I would rather take a daktari for the same points over an alguacil paramedic. However I guess you are wanting to keep a 5 man link team... I've never used an alguacil link team before, but have done a wildcat one and it was great. But I'm not so sold on having just 5 combi rifles, as beyond 16, the link BS bonus is negated by the range. So I imagine it will probably get nailed pretty soon. Hence a HMG would of been nice. I think the best benefit they'll have is the +1 B and the 6th Sense Lvl2 which they get at 4 guys anyway.

There is nothing to benefit from marking in the army so that aspect of forward observer will be useless. What would be good though is the flash pulse. The long range of this coupled with a 5 man link team could make for a great defence in ARO, and be somewhat useful in your active turn. So if you had 4 points spare, I'd take the FO over the paramedic. So the link team may be alright with a FO, but I'm not really sure. Would probably have to try it and see. At least the TAG arrangement is symmetrical now.

FO isn't worthless in that they're also counted as Specialists for objectives, so your Engineer has some backup for going for them. If the points are there and you've got nothing else to put there, and FO is helpful just in case you end up in an objective mission.

If you're dead set against a Daktari, I'd go with the FO simly due to Paramedics being better at killing your own people than your opponent is. The orders spent on a Paramedic killing your own dudes it better spend on what's left of your dudes killing your opponents dudes. I feel spoiled playing Haqq and not having to deal with Paramedics, and having Doctors in most unit types.

Thanks for the quick and detailed responses lads.

Yep I feel like I'm not taking myself too seriously here so I either take the 5 Alguacils or, if you want to follow me down the rabbit hole, I dump the link completely and see what else looks interesting/manic. If I did dump the link and found other options I think I'm 100% going to leave myself order starved. No other options are going to get anywhere near 5 orders, more like 3 if I'm very careful. Unless someone wants to correct me on the need for orders. I know Morats can do well without and they tend to have a glut of HI but I also know it's more complicated than that, I don't think it could work here.

So it seems you are both pro FO and for different reasons, that's pretty cool and I'm definitely happy to use them. They sound much better now. You may have missed though that I can afford to upgrade two of the Alguaciles. Would you take 2 Paramedics, 2 FO or one of each?

One of each. While I'm not a huge fan of Paramedic since they tend to mistake their rifle for their hypo, any chance to bring back a model is worth it. If you can fit an FO and a Paramedic, go for it.

It actually looks like a pretty fun list. Rampaging pairs of Geckos followed by synced Zondbots on the flanks while an Aguacile link defends or goes for objectives.

One of each sounds good! Yeah I think it'll be fun to play and not completely impossible to win with which is the aim really.

Just to be clear, are we 100% preferring the Paramedic/FO over the Hacker? I'm swaying on the importance of a Hacker what with 4 TAGs on the table. If there was a better hacker for the same points I'd dump one from the link and take them separately.


I'm adding a poll so here are the two lists again for reference.
List 3:

Nomads - Corregidor Jurisdictional Command | 10 models
________________________________________________________
Gecko Mk12 (55|1.5)
Gecko Combi (54|1)
Gecko Combi (54|1)
Gecko Combi (54|1)
Alguacil Lieutenant (10|1)
Alguacil Hacker (22|0.5)
Alguacil Combi (10|0)
Alguacil Combi (10|0)
Alguacil Combi (10|0)
Clockmaker Engineer (18|0)
Zondbot (3|0)
________________________________________________________
300/300 points | 6/6 swc

List 4:

Nomads - Corregidor Jurisdictional Command | 10 models
________________________________________________________
Gecko Mk12 (55|1.5)
Gecko Mk12 (55|1.5)
Gecko Combi (54|1)
Gecko Combi (54|1)
Alguacil Lieutenant (10|1)
Alguacil Combi (10|0)
Alguacil Combi (10|0)
Alguacil FO/Repeater (14|0)
Alguacil Paramedic (14|0)
Clockmaker Engineer (18|0)
Zondbot (3|0)
Zondbot (3|0) ________________________________________________________
300/300 points | 6/6 swc