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I know next to nothing about them, other then they're models and such are very spartan like. There character(s) are in the imperial armor books and such I'm curious if there is anything rule wise unique about them or if they can just be run using the regular space marine codex stuff, either making use of Salamanders, iron hands or ultramarines chapter tactics.

afaik they can be done using the actual codex, and not using the Ultramarine's chapter tactics (if you read the fluff you'll know why), more using white scars or raven guard fits more their assault loving theme.

Use what you like codex wise its a off the beaten path chapter.
The only special rule for them I recall was that they had Preferred Enemy; Space Marines.
Since they get called in by the High Lords of Terra to slap down a rogue or very wayward chapter.

jeje they're Terra High Lords hitmen!

reading there lore I think Raven guard, ultramarines for the assault doc and Black templars, although you would have to rename things I could see them having a 'champion' and never refusing a challenge.

In fact I think I would make them black templars.

They're pretty savage and also took a beating by the Necrons at the Battle of Amarah, possibly losing their Chapter Master as well as several Dreadnoughts, in addition to one (or more) Battle Barges and Strike Cruisers.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Orphean_War#.UjjJbH-iLQg

They have rules and SCs in IA12 (that's their most recent appearance).

Other than the extra rules they use the Vanilla Codex, they just really like beating the crud out of other Marine chapters. Mostly because the High Lords of Terra ask them really really nicely ("pretty please with sugar, cream and sprinkles on top") and no one asks them nicely to stop.

It's hard to match the HLoT in a competition of bling-production. The Minotaurs are noted as being exceptionally well-equipped.

 Psienesis wrote:
It's hard to match the HLoT in a competition of bling-production. The Minotaurs are noted as being exceptionally well-equipped.

Yup. Ecclesiarchy is the only organization that can match them, but that's only because they have the entire Imperium paying them tithes pretty much daily.

For good reason though, the Ecclesiarchy isn't allowed to fund Space Marine chapters.

Well as a replacement using them with black templars rules the profile for the high marshal looks like it would fit, albeit that moloc is in terminator armor the marshal runs a 2+/4+ it would fit quite well.

Given I know people don't like using forge world rules xD

 Sasa0mg wrote:
Well as a replacement using them with black templars rules the profile for the high marshal looks like it would fit, albeit that moloc is in terminator armor the marshal runs a 2+/4+ it would fit quite well.

Given I know people don't like using forge world rules xD

The problem is when you don't use FW you lose their characters and their big defining rule that makes them better at killing other loyalist Marines.

That is true.
Though I'm not at a great a loss about the marine killing. Given how aggressive they are replacing the leader with the high marshall he would instead have the ability to inspire a heroic charge of bloody-sheddy goodness of hatred and such.


Though I'm curious, power weapons, if they are represented as spears are there profiles different? I remember reading about there being differences dependant on how the power weapon is portrayed i.e power axe's are AP two though there is no option to buy them specifically only 'power weapon'

 Sasa0mg wrote:
That is true.
Though I'm not at a great a loss about the marine killing. Given how aggressive they are replacing the leader with the high marshall he would instead have the ability to inspire a heroic charge of bloody-sheddy goodness of hatred and such.


Though I'm curious, power weapons, if they are represented as spears are there profiles different? I remember reading about there being differences dependant on how the power weapon is portrayed i.e power axe's are AP two though there is no option to buy them specifically only 'power weapon'

Spears have their own rules. IF I remember correctly they're S+1, AP3 on the charge and S: User, AP4 the turn afterwards, but you'll want to check the book to confirm.

Yeah, the only spears I remember off hands aren't spears xD GK Halberds +1Initiative so yeah I'll have to look that up.

Their specialty is that they are backed by the High Lords of Terra instead of their chapter master/being a separate entity like most chapters, they are very wealthy thanks to the funds provided by Terra, so they are always clad in the best gear, meaning lots of terminator suits, Mk IV, and Mk VIII. They operate a lot differently from regular chapters and favor victory by attrition much like the Imperial Guard, as it's the best way to make use of their vast armory. To make up for the drastic losses, their recruiting and training process has been sped up several times and corners have been cut to make new marines in years instead of decades or centuries.

Their most notable traits is their specialty in hunting their fellow (non-Chaos) marines, and this is represented by their universal chapter tactic Preferred Enemy: Space Marines.

They are also notoriously brutal and don't get along with their fellow allies very well and are prone to start fights due to their lack of respect and marine-killing nature.

Their founding chapter and primarch are unknown so you can pick any chapter tactic from the 6E codex you want, but none really fit them. Forge World will update their chapter tactics in the future along with the other FW chapters.

From what I've seen they're 'only' chapter tactic is preferred enemy space marines and the chapter masters only unique ability is being fearless and spreading it to his unit and his only unique item is a 1 use spear throw type thing.

Other then that he's a chapter master with terminator armour using the shield eternal with master crafted power weapon.

 Sasa0mg wrote:
From what I've seen they're 'only' chapter tactic is preferred enemy space marines and the chapter masters only unique ability is being fearless and spreading it to his unit and his only unique item is a 1 use spear throw type thing.

Other then that he's a chapter master with terminator armour using the shield eternal with master crafted power weapon.

Well he was made during the time when Chapter Tactics was a single thing when you took their major SC, like Imperial Fists was Stubborn, so he would indeed only have one Chapter Tactic.

Which has me confused as to why Crimson Fists only get it when they take their own chapter master, but then again there's like less then a hundred left so I guess they literally all band together.

 Sasa0mg wrote:
From what I've seen they're 'only' chapter tactic is preferred enemy space marines and the chapter masters only unique ability is being fearless and spreading it to his unit and his only unique item is a 1 use spear throw type thing.

Other then that he's a chapter master with terminator armour using the shield eternal with master crafted power weapon.

A spear with 2+ strength and AP2 at initiative. Moloc is not to be trifled with.

Not only on the charge? I must have missed his spear giving him that strength bonus.

 Sasa0mg wrote:
Not only on the charge? I must have missed his spear giving him that strength bonus.

His charge bonus is that him and any unit he is in ignores penalties for charging into cover completely.

Ah I see his weapon is a 1 handed relic blade lol. I get the +2 str now thats permanent.

It also gets to shoot off a S8 Lascannon shot once a game. Because sometimes you just need anti vehicle grade firepower from your death spear.

1d4chan's tactics pages also list two more minotaur SCs, a contemptor dread named Hekaton and some Devastator sergeant.

Didn't know they had those lol. I found the chaplain character. He is rather nice +2 attacks on the charge to him and his unit


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Also he's able to have a jump pack xD

Hekaton gets a plasma cannon at BS5, venerable and a +1 to his shielding but has rear armor 10 and explodes a further 3'' out when he bites it.

Bubble wrap at your own risk.

 Sasa0mg wrote:
Didn't know they had those lol. I found the chaplain character. He is rather nice +2 attacks on the charge to him and his unit


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Also he's able to have a jump pack xD

He also has a S: User/AP3 Crozius due to it being reforged, he also had it fitted with an assault grenade launcher (S3/AP6/twin linked blast)

Cus you have to have a melee weapon with a ranged attack in it purely to remain stylish.

 Sasa0mg wrote:
Cus you have to have a melee weapon with a ranged attack in it purely to remain stylish.

How else can you show that High Lord of Terra Bling?

Hehe, nice coincidence.
Yesterday I typed in all the Minotaur-units so they can be added to the Battlescribe-file

But they have a lot of stuff in IA12 (although most is HS-choice).
FW has said they are updating all the Space Marines so they work with the new books, so expect a Minotaur Chapter Tactic

Only problem with waiting for that is I want to make a start on the army >.< Though that chapter tactic could be game changing as far as army list goes.

 Sasa0mg wrote:
Only problem with waiting for that is I want to make a start on the army >.< Though that chapter tactic could be game changing as far as army list goes.

You could just take Moloc, he still grants PF: Marines as a chapter tactic.