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Greetings all!

Just a revision to a list concept I've been working on. Would love some thoughts on it.

2000 Points Imperial Guard List

Headquarters: Company Command Squad - 140 Points
Commander, Company Standard, Voxcaster, 2x Sniper Rifles, Master of Ordinance, Astropath.

Troops: Veteran Squad - 155 Points
Sergeant w/ Plasma Pistol, 3x Veterans w/ Plasma Guns, 6x Veterans with Lasguns
Demolitions Doctrine - Squad Melta Bombs & one Demolition Charge
-Chimera Transport tank - 55 Points
Multilaser & Hull Heavy Flamer

Troops: Infantry Platoon - 350 Points
Platoon Command Squad (70 Points)
Jr. Officer w/ Meltabombs, Voxcaster, 3x Meltaguns
Infantry Squad (75 Points)
Voxcaster, Lascannon Heavy Weapon Team
Infantry Squad (75 Points)
Voxcaster, Lascannon Heavy Weapon Team
Special Weapons Squad (65 Points) (Rides in a Vendetta)
2x Flamers, 1x Demolition Charge
Special Weapons Squad (65 Points) (Rides in a Vendetta)

Elite: Psyker Battle Squad - 110 Points
-Chimera Transport - 55 Points
Multilaser & Hull Heavy Flamer

Fast Attack: Vendetta Gunship - 130 Points
3x Twinlinked Lascannons

Fast Attack: Vendetta Gunship - 130 Points
3x Twinlinked Lascannons

Heavy Support: Griffon Mortar Squadron - 225 Points
3x Griffon Mortar Tanks
Griffon Mortars & Hull Heavy Flamers

Heavy Support: Leman Russ Battletank Squadron - 300 Points
2x Leman Russ Battletanks
Turret Battlecannons & Hull Heavy Flamers

Heavy Support: Leman Russ Battletank Squadron - 300 Points
2x Leman Russ Battletanks
Turret Battlecannons & Hull Heavy Flamers

Defenses: Aegis Defense Line - 50 Points

That's the idea. It drops at minimum 8 pie plates a turn, with a 9th from the psyker battle squadron if I choose to send another ST: 9, AP: D6 rather than weaken resolve.
Coupled with that, I've got the two vendetta borne 6 man fire teams with a demo charge, and the Chimera Veteran squad w/ plasma and a demo charge there as well. At most, it can dish out 12 ordinance templates a turn, all at minimum ST: 8.

I should clarify this is sort of a competitive list with an eye on having fun more than being competitive. I've noticed the current meta has a hard time dealing with high AV targets, especially when you factor in defenses and the proliferation of cover saves out there, so four front armor 14 vehicles, especially if they're set up behind an Aegis Defense line would be a tough nut to crack without getting really close with meltaguns or multimeltas.

Range is a non-issue for the most part, with the battlecannons reaching to the next table over and the griffons having the same range as a lascannon, I can hammer my target with pie from across the yard without issue, provided I've got line of sight. Dealing with AV 14 with this list will be tricky, I realize. But hopefully the Vendettas will be able to put a dent in things with the infantry lascannons adding to the refrain. Lastly, lots of 2+ saves will be tricky to deal with, but between the demo charges sprinkled throughout the list, the plasma fire team I hope to be able to put enough damage on a hard target to let attrition win the day.

Any thoughts would be appreciated, thanks in advance and have a good one guys.

-Red__Thirst-

I love dropping pie plates, quick question though, why snipers in the CCS and why griffons rather than a higher AP, solely because of points?

I'd drop the special weapons squads as they're squishy and weak, and then maybe those points can go towards another psyker blast.

eclipseoto wrote:
I love dropping pie plates, quick question though, why snipers in the CCS and why griffons rather than a higher AP, solely because of points?

I'd drop the special weapons squads as they're squishy and weak, and then maybe those points can go towards another psyker blast.

The Special weapons squads ride in the vendettas (Forgot to mention that) as an objective grabber/clearer squad. They land, hit a squad with flamers, and drop a demolition charge on a target sitting on an objective. They are weak, yes, but they're cheap objective squatter squads and are scoring, unlike a second Psyker battle squad. That and I wanted something to jump out of the vendettas.

The griffons are cheap, and tremendously effective. I mean amazingly effective in the times I've run them, they've almost always been MVP. They put out wounds like nobodies business for their points, and with the reroll scatter, they are incredibly accurate to boot. The lower AP thing is where the battlecannons come in to play, also.

Lastly, I may yet pull the sniper rifles out of the CCS, but I had 10 points left over and and I like the sniper rifles better than another heavy weapon or special weapon in the CCS (Also it's easier to conceal them vs. a heavy weapon team).

I appreciate the thoughts, sorry about forgetting to mention those special weapons squads are in vendettas.

Take it easy.

-RT-

How about this
CCS-moo,Astro,auto(120)
CCS-moo,auto,ccs (105)

Vets, x3P,x2PP,chim (190)
Vets X3p,x2pp,chim (190)

Pcs-Auto (40)
Infantry x2 w/auto (120)
Special x3 flamer (50)
special x3 flamer (50)
Pcs-auto (40)
Infantry x2 auto (120)
Special x3 flamer (50)

Vendetta (130
Vendetta (130)
Vendetta (130)

Aegis(50)

Manticore (160)
Manticore (160)
Manticore (160)
Marbo (65)
Pbs x9 (100)