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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/20 23:05:23
Subject: Imperial Guard orders and firing
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
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Can the imperial guard company command squad issue orders and fire as well, for example could i issue 2 orders, and then fire 2 sniper rifles?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/20 23:09:24
Subject: Re:Imperial Guard orders and firing
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Sister Vastly Superior
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The officer can issue orders, and then his unit may act normally. If his squad is given an order, he and his squad are treated as having acted and he would be ineligible to issue orders.
In your example, yes, he can issue orders to other units, and his unit may then fire.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/21 01:35:00
Subject: Re:Imperial Guard orders and firing
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Hoary Long Fang with Lascannon
Armageddon, Pry System, Armageddon Sector, Armageddon Sub-sector, Segmentum Solar.
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Orders are pretty much just a perk that guard do at the start of the shooting phase. Other than that the officer and his unit may act normally.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/23 07:37:00
Subject: Imperial Guard orders and firing
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
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Awesome, thanks everyone! I was thinking of using giving my command squad sniper rifles due to their BS, and so i can
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/23 17:09:00
Subject: Imperial Guard orders and firing
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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ThunderFury 2575 wrote:Awesome, thanks everyone! I was thinking of using giving my command squad sniper rifles due to their BS, and so i can
Command Squad Sniper rifles should be 4 or 0(3 with medic may be exceptable).
If you want Sniper rifles take the most efficient squad: Ratlings.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/27 14:11:49
Subject: Imperial Guard orders and firing
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
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Honestly, I've heard a lot of hooplah about ratlings, and a lot of love for them as well, as with the rough riders :/ So i remain undecided for elite choices to be honest
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/27 14:19:28
Subject: Imperial Guard orders and firing
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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Ratlings are a better choice for snipers, they Infiltrate and can cause all sorts of problems if you can drop them in your opponents backfield.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/27 16:46:02
Subject: Imperial Guard orders and firing
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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hdbbstephen wrote:Ratlings are a better choice for snipers, they Infiltrate and can cause all sorts of problems if you can drop them in your opponents backfield.
They also are really short models. Make sure there's good terrain for them to Infiltrate into where you're playing. An IG player at my FLGS has had several vehement arguments about how Ratlings should get to ignore TLoS because it would be disadvantageous to his models. We tell him to play by the rules.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/27 17:57:16
Subject: Imperial Guard orders and firing
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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ThunderFury 2575 wrote:Honestly, I've heard a lot of hooplah about ratlings, and a lot of love for them as well, as with the rough riders :/ So i remain undecided for elite choices to be honest
10 points per Sniper Rifle with Infiltrate and Stealth(and small, easy to hide models) and BS4; up to 10 rifles. They are the single most cost effective deployment of sniper rifles in the game(Rangers being a close second now).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/27 18:34:21
Subject: Imperial Guard orders and firing
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Fixture of Dakka
Vanished Completely
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I still rather my Sniper Drones, even if they do cost quite a bit more.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/27 20:21:14
Subject: Imperial Guard orders and firing
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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48 more points for 9 BS5 shots with 12" more range is certainly not bad; I have thought about taking them in a tau army.
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This is my Rulebook. There are many Like it, but this one is mine. Without me, my rulebook is useless. Without my rulebook, I am useless.
Stop looking for buzz words and start reading the whole sentences.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/27 23:58:54
Subject: Imperial Guard orders and firing
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Fixture of Dakka
Vanished Completely
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I've put together tactics that center around the sniper drones but this is not the right place for them. Needless to say throwing an ethereal into the mix for their triple-tap bubble makes them stunning units. Put them behind a wall or some other cover they can boost and their rate of survival increases to marine level equivalents. Do both and you end up having a unit that terminators think twice about going anywhere near....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/28 11:55:27
Subject: Imperial Guard orders and firing
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
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If ratlings are the go to for snipers then, how would you say forward sentry veterans with 3 snipers and an autocannon fare?
Don't get me wrong i love the idea of ratlings, but i have already modeled the aforementioned squad D:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/28 12:50:15
Subject: Imperial Guard orders and firing
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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25 points more expensive than 10 ratlings; with only 3 Sniper rifles.
They are not bad, they are just an inefficient delivery method for sniper rifles. On average you might achieve 1 Sniper rifle wound per turn with the Vets, The ratlings should net you 3(both wounds here are pre-save; and one of the ratling ones should be a rend).
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Stop looking for buzz words and start reading the whole sentences.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/28 14:36:19
Subject: Imperial Guard orders and firing
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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ThunderFury 2575 wrote:If ratlings are the go to for snipers then, how would you say forward sentry veterans with 3 snipers and an autocannon fare?
Don't get me wrong i love the idea of ratlings, but i have already modeled the aforementioned squad D:
Add Harker to that and you've got something, you should be able to position your unit behind some enemy infantry and tear them up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/29 01:52:14
Subject: Imperial Guard orders and firing
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
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I do like the sound of ratlings now, especially for modelling opportunities!  One problem though, leadership, Any decent ways to negate their paltry leadership of 6 (i think)? Cover can assist them with their appalling toughness at least
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/29 02:18:58
Subject: Imperial Guard orders and firing
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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Lord Commissar, Primaris Psyker, Regimental Standard within 12", Deep Cover and more important targets(like a gun-line blob nearby).
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This is my Rulebook. There are many Like it, but this one is mine. Without me, my rulebook is useless. Without my rulebook, I am useless.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/29 08:46:36
Subject: Imperial Guard orders and firing
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Hoary Long Fang with Lascannon
Armageddon, Pry System, Armageddon Sector, Armageddon Sub-sector, Segmentum Solar.
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ThunderFury 2575 wrote:I do like the sound of ratlings now, especially for modelling opportunities!  One problem though, leadership, Any decent ways to negate their paltry leadership of 6 (i think)? Cover can assist them with their appalling toughness at least
Ld 6 isn't that bad and it's actually a good thing for Ratlings to fallback if they receive too many casualties. When they get closer to your line you can use get back in the fight to rally them. Given they stealth they will have a decent chance of living though most things if positioned well. And frankly, for the points what you get out of them is excellent. Other than that the only other elite choice I'd bother with is ogryn, only because its the only realistic option for an assault unit in the codex.
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