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Steady Space Marine Vet Sergeant





Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom

Welcome to my blog!

This blog started back in September 2013, and has charted my progress for [almost] 4 years in this hobby.

I've been a 40k player for the vast majority of that time, seeing myself through multiple projects. I'm thoroughly enjoying painting the new Primaris Marines and playing The Ninth Age right now.

This blog has seen me through a White Scars army, Imperial Guard army, Imperial Fists army, dabbling in Eldar, Maelstrom's Edge, Warhammer Fantasy, Silver Tower and other assorted minis.
Currently, I'm working on trying to hit the sweet spot that is a whole company of Marines, plus some Primaris Marines. Not to mention the rest of my Silver Tower boxset and some Descent: Journeys in the Dark minis...

So sit back, take a read, and enjoy!
Z


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Hello everyone,

Welcome to my Blog. My main reason for this blog is to chart my progress (from the very start) to the finish - well, as finished as any painting project gets. I've not made any major contributions to my personal 40k models since the end of 2012. I got into WHFB with the Warriors of Chaos when they were released and amassed a horde of them. But, back in May, I went to America to work in a summer camp. Those 3 months distanced me from the hobby and when I returned I badly wanted to get back into 40k to play - Its been around 2 years since I last played a game! So, roll on late August (when I got back) and we start to see the new Codex: Space Marines. I thought it would be fitting to reenter 40k with the SM.

Having picked up the new codex (and liking it alot), I decided where I want to go with my Space Marine army: White Scars. Over my multiple years in the hobby, i've had various flavours of SM (Salamanders, Blood Ravens, White Scars). Some of my main reasons to go with White Scars is that their new rules, and the rules for bikes in general, are pretty awesome. Also, back in the summer of 2012. I first started to explore the White Scars. I didn't get vary far with them (around 1k) and eventually sold them off to move on, but now i'm back!


This is everything I brought for this project - No doubt i'll add to it, but this is the baseline. What do we have?
30 Space Marine Bikes
5 Attack Bikes
Scouts
a Land Speeder Storm
Sternguard Vets
Vanguard Vets
Masters of the Chapter
Space Marine Captain on a Bike (my Khan counts as)
2 Thunderfire Cannons
a Land Raider
2 Stormtalons
and a Stormraven
(it's a heck of alot, right?)

Mainly I have the core of most (if not all) bike armies - lots of bikes. Also some other units for flavouring.

I predominantly want to have an army that I can game with - that is the aim. The models I have now allow me to built a variety of lists, and as my gaming goes on, I'll likely buy units that are considered 'more competitive'. I'd love to go to a tournament, but that goal is somewhere out of reach (with every piece of plastic i unbox).

And my workstation:

I think we should get accompanied - i'll be spending a large amount of time there.

Well, thats the outline of my project. Stick around and see where it goes.

Z

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That's a heck of a haul! Good luck.
   
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very ambitious. My only question is why did you by the bikes as separate boxes and not buy the old ravenwing battleforces? would have been cheaper and given you some trade bait in the process.

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nice start to the army i am very intrested about this thread

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Steady Space Marine Vet Sergeant





Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom

Thanks everyone for the interest. The internet has been down here for the past few days, which has ment less dakkadakka and more painty-painty. Should have first model up tomorrow

And Theo, the bike boxes are the boxes of 3 (Space Marine Bike Squad). The cost of the ravenwing boxes is £70, for 6 bikes and an attack bike, the cost is £56. I know I get a LS too, but i have no interest in using them so i'm not going to buy them. When you're bulk buying, knowing you've made little savings like that can help you justify clicking 'checkout' when your online basket is £500+

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This is something I have contemplated doing over the years but never had the guts to attempt (given my current mountain of full grey sprues). I look forward to seeing progress here ... and maybe gleaning some inspiration!

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Zambro wrote:
Thanks everyone for the interest. The internet has been down here for the past few days, which has ment less dakkadakka and more painty-painty. Should have first model up tomorrow

And Theo, the bike boxes are the boxes of 3 (Space Marine Bike Squad). The cost of the ravenwing boxes is £70, for 6 bikes and an attack bike, the cost is £56. I know I get a LS too, but i have no interest in using them so i'm not going to buy them. When you're bulk buying, knowing you've made little savings like that can help you justify clicking 'checkout' when your online basket is £500+


You also get three of the ravenwing sprues. While packed with DA iconography, there are some generic bits that can be used to spruce up your bikes. I know I used some to make my Ultramarine bike captain (who can be seen in my blog if you are interested) It might be easier to just get the one or two parts you need form friends and/or bits sites though...

Looking forward to seeing how your army comes together.

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Steady Space Marine Vet Sergeant





Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom

Hey all,

Here is the eagerly awaited first 'guy'.

He is the TH Captain from the masters of the chapter set.




That is one hideous looking mouldline. Its not that noticable on the mini, i think the light hit it in a 'perfect' way to emphasise the line.

This, being the first model, is a way for me to slowly get into the swing of painting the White Scars theme.I think i have the white down, which is good to know. I also attempted a shaved head look (you can see it a bit in the last picture). I'm pleased with that, for a first time effort. Also the red cloak on his back is the part i'm most pleased with. Thoughts? Improvements for when i come to cranking out the bikes?

...and speaking of bikes...

This is on my table now. Over the next few days and the weekend, i should make considerable progress

comments welcome

Z

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i cant believe you bought all that retail... looks good though!

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I will be watching. That is a hell of a pile. How do you plan on keeping motivated?

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The captain looks good, what method are you using for the armour?
   
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The white looks good , any plans for doing the red dags on him?

LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
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Steady Space Marine Vet Sergeant





Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom

Kiwidru wrote:i cant believe you bought all that retail... looks good though!


Haha... i'm not stupid enough to buy it all from GW. Got the finecast stuff from them (cause only they sell it) and the rest from a LGS with a 10% discount (compared to GW)

Rabid Ferret wrote:I will be watching. That is a hell of a pile. How do you plan on keeping motivated?


Well, thats a good question. I'm well overdue in playing a game, so the thought of heading out to my LGS to play each week keeps me going - i so badly want to play Also, if it's not on my worktable, it's in the closet. Having all of the boxed/unstarted things away in the closet stops me mulling over the huge pile - out of sight, out of mind. And when it comes to sitting down to paint, i use the 1-2-3 go method. At some point each day, i just go to my work table and paint. I dont overthink it. I dont make excuses. I just go.

shamikebab wrote:The captain looks good, what method are you using for the armour?


Well, for the armour my current method is to prime in grey, then airbrush white over it. Then, once all the details on / around the armour are complete i put a thinned black wash onto it to line the details. I usually have to go back and touch up the armour in some places due to spillage. My brush control is getting so much better - get it right the first time, and you dont have to do the touch ups, right?

Theophony wrote:The white looks good , any plans for doing the red dags on him?


Not on the Captain, i dont think. I'd rather my first effort be on a biker, where i have enough uncluttered armour to do the tribal patterns. Trying to get it on the leg of the captain would be a PITA because the cloak covers so much leg, and there are other details on it too. My WiP dudes are going to get somthing simple on their knee pad, and a tactical arrow on their shoulder - just to gauge my ability in freehand. And then we'll go from there.

Thanks alot everyone for looking in. I have no lectures in university today, and seeing as we just started back i have very little to do at home, so i should be able to paint a bit today

Z

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Upstate, New York

Nice work. Love the red on the cloak.

I noticed to glued the bikers together entirely. I've been leaving the arms off mine, and glueing them on when I glue the rider on the bike. It seemed it might be a little awkward to get them on the bikes with the fixed arms. Have you had any problems? If it works your way, I could save myself a step...

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Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom

It's totally fine to glue the arms on before putting the biker on. All you have to do is ensure the arms are at the right height / angle on the body to sit on the handles properly.

What i do is put the legs/body/head/backpack together then put them on the bike. Then i put the hands onto the handle bars and then glue them in place on the body. After around 24 hours, when they are completely solid, i take the rider off the bike. Its a nice snug fit, no glue holding the biker onto the bike, but still tight enough to hold it on when it gets tipped upside down. After that, i just pull the biker off, taking extra care with the hands. I've not broken anything yet, but i would go carefully just in case

Z

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I've always wanted to try a white scars or a white scars successor chapter! Great jobon the white, looks very clean and crisp!. Can't wait to see some bikers up and running!

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Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom

Thanks Azalle. Bikers are on the table, ready for some love. I'm all over and done with my first week back of university and have relatively little to do this weekend. Should be able to devote alot of time for the Scars

   
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really cool chapter master he looks great

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flibjibchaoscookie wrote:really cool chapter master he looks great


Thanks a lot!
He was the first of my Scars, so it was the concept mini, i guess.

gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:Wow... loads of minis.


Yeah...
Seeing someone with that much is one thing, being the person with that much is a whole nuther story... I refuse to open my closet to look at them, I only look at what I gotta paint.

So, this weekend has been a good one for painting. It's dark now, but tomorrow i'll throw up a picture of the fruits of my labour for this weekend.

Z

   
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Holy crap that's a lot! Good luck fellow Dakka-er! I also have an insane amount of units I have to paint but most of them are already put together. Can't wait to see your completed White Scars I don't see many White Scar armies out there.

   
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Steady Space Marine Vet Sergeant





Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom

@Darthnatus. Never heard 'Dakker-er' before. Dakkite and dakkanaught, yes, but never that I think the bigger question is, what do you call a dakka user?

As promised, here is my progress since I last updated you guys.





Overall, these guys look like a great start. (its depressing to think i'm 1/10th of the way through the bikes!). As you can see, my free-hand is 'passable'. The tactical arrows and tribal knee-pads look good. The next lot of guys will get some more details like that. I'm also concerned about the mud on the tyres. Too much? Also, do you think it matters that they are that muddy yet they are driving over rock? Also, I think the white on the marines looks a little too dark. I washed the whole white mini in black (yepp, that'll definately make the colour darker) to pick out the details, I think i'm going to add a step in next time: a final layer of white. That'll line the details and make it 'white' again Your thoughts?

Here is one dude for some close ups (the 3 guys are pretty much the same)






One thing you can see in the picture is the Yellow eye lenses. My go-to colour of lenses on marines is usually red, but I have plans to do tribal markings over the helmets which are also red, meaning the lenses wouldn't pop. Yellow is the tertiary colour for the White Scars - only really showing up in their chapter icon - so I thought this would be a fitting colour. What do you think?

Oh, and a sneak peak of what's in the works...


I've also looked into a light box. What is your take on it? Price is reasonable, so are the components etc. I could see myself buying it in the near future.

As always, comments and criticisms encouraged

Z

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Love your bikes! Nicely done indeed!

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Zambro wrote:


Overall, these guys look like a great start. (its depressing to think i'm 1/10th of the way through the bikes!). As you can see, my free-hand is 'passable'. The tactical arrows and tribal knee-pads look good. The next lot of guys will get some more details like that. I'm also concerned about the mud on the tyres. Too much? Also, do you think it matters that they are that muddy yet they are driving over rock? Also, I think the white on the marines looks a little too dark. I washed the whole white mini in black (yepp, that'll definately make the colour darker) to pick out the details, I think i'm going to add a step in next time: a final layer of white. That'll line the details and make it 'white' again Your thoughts?

One thing you can see in the picture is the Yellow eye lenses. My go-to colour of lenses on marines is usually red, but I have plans to do tribal markings over the helmets which are also red, meaning the lenses wouldn't pop. Yellow is the tertiary colour for the White Scars - only really showing up in their chapter icon - so I thought this would be a fitting colour. What do you think?

As always, comments and criticisms encouraged

Z


The first thing that jumped out at me was the amount of mud, contrasting with the rock bases. From the amount of muck on the wheels, I'd expect more thrown up onto the biker and the rest of the bike. And to have them on swamp/jungle bases. The fact that the bikes are white, and should show every splatter, makes the disconnect a little more drastic. So I guess that is a "yes, you went to far" I like the bases, I like the mud, and I like the bikes themselves, but the three don't match up. The mud, as the middle layer, does not match the clean top or bottom of the mini. If one or both of those was as dirty as the mud, it would work as a transition layer. If the bike was dirty, the WS just outflanked whoever you are fighting through a swamp they was though impassable, but are now on the firm rock of the battlefield. If the base was swamp, rather then rock, but the riders were mostly clean, they just hit the muck, and haven't had a chance to get truly dirty yet.

I can be hard to tell with whites in pictures, but I like what you have there. You are obviously not going for parade ground pristine, so I don't expect to see pure polished white armor. You have a nice range of edging and highlights, looks good. And the yellow lenses look fine. If you went with red, I think it would a little too much of the same secondary color. It's good to get a third one in there.

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One of the things keeping me from starting a biker army is that dreaded center mold line, which is also noticeable on your bikes. Are you any good with green stuff?

I wish you luck on your project, it's future looks bright! (and white!)

 
   
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Master Azalle wrote:Love your bikes! Nicely done indeed!


Thanks

Dinamarth wrote:One of the things keeping me from starting a biker army is that dreaded center mold line, which is also noticeable on your bikes. Are you any good with green stuff?

I wish you luck on your project, it's future looks bright! (and white!)


You dont know the half of it... I tried to file it away on one bike, but it ended up filing into the plastic, and decided against continuing. My GS skills are poor, through lack of use. I dont think i've used GS properly, ever. What do you suggest doing with it? Just putting it on to level out the pieces? I dont think i'd be able to flatten it out properly :(

Nevelon wrote:The first thing that jumped out at me was the amount of mud, contrasting with the rock bases. From the amount of muck on the wheels, I'd expect more thrown up onto the biker and the rest of the bike. And to have them on swamp/jungle bases. The fact that the bikes are white, and should show every splatter, makes the disconnect a little more drastic. So I guess that is a "yes, you went to far" I like the bases, I like the mud, and I like the bikes themselves, but the three don't match up. The mud, as the middle layer, does not match the clean top or bottom of the mini. If one or both of those was as dirty as the mud, it would work as a transition layer. If the bike was dirty, the WS just outflanked whoever you are fighting through a swamp they was though impassable, but are now on the firm rock of the battlefield. If the base was swamp, rather then rock, but the riders were mostly clean, they just hit the muck, and haven't had a chance to get truly dirty yet.

I can be hard to tell with whites in pictures, but I like what you have there. You are obviously not going for parade ground pristine, so I don't expect to see pure polished white armor. You have a nice range of edging and highlights, looks good. And the yellow lenses look fine. If you went with red, I think it would a little too much of the same secondary color. It's good to get a third one in there.


Ahh, I love criticism! Without it, we can never truely improve.
Nevelon, you are right. What do you think guys, do something about the mud, or about the base? I really like how the bases look - i'll try and get a pic of them before i glue the bikers on. Whilst i like muddy tyres on their own, they are probably going to be done differently with my next few bikes. What do you suggest, tone the mud back alot, or take it away completely?

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looks awesome but i agree the bikes would be a bit more dirtier. still very cool and the free hands are better than anything i could have done

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Thanks flib

   
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yer welcome have you started on the storm raven yet?

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They are painted great zambro, and grats to you for undertaking quite a lengthy challenge!! I must agree agree with the above criticism however, more just interms of fluff. The mud all over the tires came from where? To have such a dirty filthy tire, you must have a dirty flithy base. All that mud would have flown off in seconds had there not been a continuous source of it. Id either redo the base (which you seem not to want to do), or redo paint the tires and weather them the matching color of grey, which in this case would be more of a dust than a flying wet mud spackle. But thats just my two cents. Either way, the hard part, painting sweet white scars, is taken care of

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