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Hello,

I'm a fan of terminators (wait come back).

I'm pondering a heavily terminator based elite force, but want to stay away from grey knights (have the codex don't overly like the models). And staying away from chaos as I ideally want to take them as troops.

I don't have the Dark Angels Codex or the current marine codex, but will be getting one or the other in the next week or so. Could I get a few thoughts which do not break the forum rules regarding:

I'm presuming there is a way to take terminators as troop choices, either straight from the list or via a character choice. Am I right?

(Thanks for getting this far)

Is there any way to use the new marine codex to take terminators as troops? If so would this be for a specific chapter or is it generally available.

Do dark angels have any Anti-air options beyond a ADL and quadd gun?

Thanks for any guidance.

DA were the first book to get flakk missles for thir devs.(well along with chaos) then they got their flyer
And as for troop termies, only DA.

Thanks,
Dark Angels here I come.

Yes, DA can take terminators as troops. You would just need to one of 2 different special characters to do it.

One of the weaknesses in our current codex is weak anti-air. we only have flak missiles and taking ADL. Out fliers are better suited for attacking ground targets then countering other fliers.

If Fliers are a big problem in your meta, then consider building an ally detachment of vanilla marines to take the new Hunter and Stalker.

Is it possible that the coming IF Supplement (Oct) could make IF Termies troops?

Would that be fluffy at all?

For anti-air for DA there are some pretty nice options if you look into forgeworld. Mortis Contemptors and Helios sentries immediately come to mind.

 SickSix wrote:
Is it possible that the coming IF Supplement (Oct) could make IF Termies troops?

Would that be fluffy at all?

Highly unlikely

IF favor defensive siege-craft with lots of dakka and devistators. I dont see them getting Termies as troops.

Do the nightfighter and jet rules come in the codex? Or are they part of the Death from the skies supplement.

 Jasper wrote:
Do the nightfighter and jet rules come in the codex? Or are they part of the Death from the skies supplement.

The Dark Talon and Nephlim Jetfighter rules come in the DA Codex, and the new SM book has the Storm Raven & Storm Talon. There's not really much of a reason for Space Marine players of any flavour to buy DftS.

Space wolves can also make terminator troops. Take the chapter master, he makes wolf guard troops, upgrade them to terminators.plus there are 3 special characters which can be terminator, the chapter master, arjack, and the njal as well as any other character upgraded with terminator armor..

 Exergy wrote:

 SickSix wrote:
Is it possible that the coming IF Supplement (Oct) could make IF Termies troops?

Would that be fluffy at all?

Highly unlikely

IF favor defensive siege-craft with lots of dakka and devistators. I dont see them getting Termies as troops.

Centurion and devastator troops?

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 Exergy wrote:

 SickSix wrote:
Is it possible that the coming IF Supplement (Oct) could make IF Termies troops?

Would that be fluffy at all?

Highly unlikely

IF favor defensive siege-craft with lots of dakka and devistators. I dont see them getting Termies as troops.

Centurion and devastator troops?

I'm hoping that there will be something to make Sternguard Troops finally. No more mucking about with scouts and tactical marines, just straight to the good stuff.

 phatonic wrote:
DA were the first book to get flakk missles for thir devs.(well along with chaos) then they got their flyer
And as for troop termies, only DA.

From his list, yes. However, the Space Wolf dex also allows for an all termi army via Logan Grimnar. It's a steep tax, but allows you to really customize your termies more.

NM, just noticed someone else posted this.

 Jasper wrote:
I'm pondering a heavily terminator based elite force, but want to stay away from grey knights (have the codex don't overly like the models). And staying away from chaos as I ideally want to take them as troops.

You can use the GK codex without using the GK models if you want. Using one flavour of marines as another is accepted practice so long as the wargear is WYSIWYG or straight forward counts as.

DA have an IC that make termies troops. (Belial?) Does it matter if we say it here? Any DA player using Belial and termies will teach you this.

 Rismonite wrote:
DA have an IC that make termies troops. (Belial?) Does it matter if we say it here? Any DA player using Belial and termies will teach you this.

Belial makes them troops. But if you take the Chapter Master Azaerl, he also makes terminators and bikes troops.

 Jasper wrote:
Hello,

Do dark angels have any Anti-air options beyond a ADL and quadd gun?

Thanks for any guidance.

DA are best bet for terminator troops. You have to take a special character to build a deathwing army with terminator troops, but that isn't a hardship. You can either take Belial who is the master of the deathwing, or you can take Azrael who is the chapter master. On the anti-air front DAs have flakk missiles, Aegis Defense Lines like everyone else and 2 flyers. Unfortunately the flyers are more geared towards ground attack than anti-flyer defense, though. Mortis dreadnoughts and mortis contemptor dreads are another option. Mortis dreads just fill the air with fire and hope to hit something on snapfire. Mortis contemptor dreads, from forgeworld, actually get the skyfire ability if they do not move on their turn so are much more capable in the anti-air role, though the 4 dice with rerolls of the mortis dread does mean you have 8 chances for a 6 when snap firing. I have a mortis contemptor in my DA army and love it. The forge world model is also a fantastic model.

Skriker

 SickSix wrote:
Is it possible that the coming IF Supplement (Oct) could make IF Termies troops?

Would that be fluffy at all?

According to Nafka, its going to focus on the IF 3rd company, so no real chance for troop terminators at all (or sternguard for that matter). Heck, if it truly focuses on just the 3rd company, you shouldn't have access to any 1st company vets, so no vanguard, no sternguard, and no terminators of any kind. Oddly limited if you ask me.

If it makes rank and file tacticals a little better, I'll buy.