Murder for no reason of an 8 yr old girl

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**hotsauceman1**

This is just sad. People like this are nothing but animals and should be locked away.

OAKLAND -- Two suspected gang members have been charged with murder in the shooting death of an 8-year-old girl killed while answering the front door during a sleepover in July, authorities said Tuesday.

Authorities said suspected gunman Darnell Williams, 22, and Joe Carroll, 27, who apparently planned the July 17 attack that left Alaysha Carradine dead, intended to seek revenge for the killing of Carroll's cousin, 26-year-old Jermaine Davis, in Berkeley earlier that day.

Williams and Carroll were each charged with murder, three counts of attempted murder and shooting at an inhabited dwelling. Prosecutors will decide whether to seek the death penalty against Williams, who was embarking on a brutal crime spree when he killed the girl, investigators said.

Williams is also accused of killing a man who he attempted to rob during a dice game in Berkeley in September, authorities said.

"Some crimes rock the agency and the community; they affect us forever. This is one," said Oakland police Assistant Chief Paul Figueroa. "Killing an 8-year-old is as despicable as it gets."

Alameda County District Attorney Nancy O'Malley said the suspects went to the Wilson Avenue apartment intent on killing someone they believed was responsible for Davis' killing and "did not care" who was inside when they opened fire.

Court documents show the suspects knew that their intended target's children and their mother lived in the Dimond District apartment. Carradine was staying at her friend's house.

Williams, after orchestrating the killing with Carroll, rang the doorbell at 11:18 p.m.; as soon as Alaysha's friend, a 7-year-old girl, opened the door, he started shooting, O'Malley said. The bullets pierced the apartment's metal gate and hit four of the five people inside. Alaysha was killed and her friend, a 4-year-old boy and their 64-year-old grandmother were wounded.

Carroll was arrested Sept. 27 in Houston, and Williams was arrested Sept. 8 by Berkeley police.

Williams and Laquana Nuno are also charged with the Sept. 8 killing of Anthony Medearis in the 1400 block of Eighth Street in West Berkeley. Williams was shooting dice with Medearis and others when he decided to rob Medearis, according to court papers.

Williams shot Medearis, and in the process, a bullet fragment struck Williams' 7-year-old nephew in the face, documents show. Nuno agreed to be a getaway driver for Williams, and fled police after Williams jumped out of her car, authorities said.

Williams was arrested later that night, found hiding in a shed, according to police.

Carroll and three other suspected gang members -- Joseph Connors, Emando Roos and Travon Wilson -- were also charged with conspiring to murder two men who Carroll believed had disrespected him and his brother, authorities said. Information developed during the course of the investigation into Alaysha's death allowed police to prevent the killing, including when some of the men were stalking the targets at an unnamed Oakland nightclub, authorities said.

Nuno, Connors, Roos and Wilson were arrested Saturday after police served search warrants in Berkeley, Oakland and Hayward.

Speaking at a news conference announcing the arrests, O'Malley said the killing of Alaysha "shocked all of us" and showed the 'disregard for human life" that gang members have.

She singled out Oakland police homicide investigator Officer Rob Rosin, who headed the case, for bringing it to a successful conclusion.

Mayor Jean Quan said Alaysha's killing "really broke my heart" and said she hopes the arrests "will send a signal" that violent crime will not be tolerated.

Alaysha, whose family called her "Ladybug," would have started third grade at Fruitvale Elementary School in August. Her death was Oakland's 54th homicide this year, and she is one of the youngest Oakland homicide victims this year.

Less than three wee

ks after Alaysha's death, 16-month-old Drew Jackson was shot and killed, along with his 20-year-old father, as the two slept next to each other at an aunt's East Oakland home.

**Ahtman**

Can you think of a plausible scenario where the murder of an eight year old would be seen as reasonable?

**Ratbarf**

So Gangbangers be gangbangers and do gangbanger things without caring about the consequences?

I don't understand the intent of the post.

**PrehistoricUFO**

Menace to society.

**hotsauceman1**

Ahtman wrote:
Can you think of a plausible scenario where the murder of an eight year old would be seen as reasonable?

No I cannot.

**easysauce**

animals... freaken animals.

**Ouze**

PrehistoricUFO wrote:
Menace to society.

Hey man, O-Dog ain't never shot no kid.

**Kovnik Obama**

Ok, ok, I know how this goes, don't tell me guys :

"If Alaisha's friend had had a gun on her, this wouldn't have happened''.

AmIdoingitright?

**Grey Templar**

Nah, the correct way is "If only guns were illegal this guy wouldn't have had a gun to kill these poor children!"

**Kovnik Obama**

Grey Templar wrote:
Nah, the correct way is "If only guns were illegal this guy wouldn't have had a gun to kill these poor children!"

Both sides of the wrong coin to toss.

**Grey Templar**

Indeed.

**hotsauceman1**

Grey Templar wrote:
Nah, the correct way is "If only guns were illegal this guy wouldn't have had a gun to kill these poor children!"

I thought it was "If only she had a semi automatic rifle with a high capacity magazine she could have scared them off.

**Jihadin**

Are we seriously going to turn this into "I'm a weapon owner and I'm bad person because I own a battle rifle with 30 round mags". Sucks a 8 year old kid got opted out but I for one would not pause in "flipping the switch" on the shooter and smashing the key to keep the driver in nail for life.

**yellowfever**

Putting them in jail will just cost us tax payer money. People like this need to die. Slowly.Pure and simple.

**Ensis Ferrae**

Ahtman wrote:
Can you think of a plausible scenario where the murder of an eight year old would be seen as reasonable?

That 8 year old is a Somali Pirate toting an AK? Or one of the thousands of Child Soldiers of the various warlord clans in that same continent?

**hotsauceman1**

Jihadin wrote:
Are we seriously going to turn this into "I'm a weapon owner and I'm bad person because I own a battle rifle with 30 round mags". Sucks a 8 year old kid got opted out but I for one would not pause in "flipping the switch" on the shooter and smashing the key to keep the driver in nail for life.

I am confused? in nail for life?

**Jihadin**

I'm going to not edit for you Hot and hopefully you can figure out what I meant. A keffiyeh does not give away the insurgent age till the body search. Then everyone gets pissed and the hatred increase against the insurgents for going that route for recruits.

**KalashnikovMarine**

Ahtman wrote:
Can you think of a plausible scenario where the murder of an eight year old would be seen as reasonable?

Like my tovarich mentioned there are certain scenarios. However I doubt you're going to find a child in America that fits them... maybe that gang of kids in Texas who were robbing people? None of those situations would be murder however which has a VERY specific legal and (imho) moral definition as the unjust taking of a life. Ensis Ferrae and Jihadin both know better. Or should at least.

**Bullockist**

Jihadin wrote:
Are we seriously going to turn this into "I'm a weapon owner and I'm bad person because I own a battle rifle with 30 round mags". Sucks a 8 year old kid got opted out but I for one would not pause in "flipping the switch" on the shooter and smashing the key to keep the driver in nail for life.

I am developing an interest in woodworking currently and am wondering how much cheaper shooting an 8 year old would make my new hobby if i was going to be" kept in nail[s] for life ".
I also would like a battle rifle to go with my accelerating car.

**Jimsolo**

Ahtman wrote:
Can you think of a plausible scenario where the murder of an eight year old would be seen as reasonable?

Not without Jigsaw being involved.

**Seaward**

Bullockist wrote:
I am developing an interest in woodworking currently and am wondering how much cheaper shooting an 8 year old would make my new hobby if i was going to be" kept in nail[s] for life ".
I also would like a battle rifle to go with my accelerating car.

It appears to be a typo of "jail." I was able to figure this out because I learned about context clues back in elementary school and have been on the internet for some time, where people make typing mistakes all the time, such as typing 'i' instead of 'I'.

**sebster**

You guys have it all wrong, this isn't going to end up yet another gun thread. It's going to end up yet another death penalty thread, with some weird revenge porn stuff thrown in for good measure.

yellowfever wrote:
Putting them in jail will just cost us tax payer money. People like this need to die. Slowly.Pure and simple.

See?

**Cheesecat**

Yeah, no surprise there.

**Ensis Ferrae**

KalashnikovMarine wrote:

Like my tovarich mentioned there are certain scenarios. However I doubt you're going to find a child in America that fits them... maybe that gang of kids in Texas who were robbing people? None of those situations would be murder however which has a VERY specific legal and (imho) moral definition as the unjust taking of a life. Ensis Ferrae and Jihadin both know better. Or should at least.

Lol, to be fair, he didn't specify whether that 8 year old was in the US... but yeah, if you are a lawyer who can provide "justification" in court successfully for doing just that, you really are scraping the bottom of the barrel of morals.

**djones520**

Can someone explain to me why we haven't unleashed a division or two of National Guard into these cities with rampant gang problems, and made the gangs "go away" yet?

Anyone?

**AlmightyWalrus**

djones520 wrote:
Can someone explain to me why we haven't unleashed a division or two of National Guard into these cities with rampant gang problems, and made the gangs "go away" yet?

Anyone?

Due process?

**Jihadin**

National Guard get activated by the governor for 29 days to do that. People on here be all over the Federal Government for sending in Combat troops. Regardless of MOS all they see is a weapon and uniform and its "Infantry" to them. Lets not forget the fact of "Blind obedience to Orders" perception some have on here. Let alone the fact we're willing to kill kids and adults because we're blood thirsty killers. Think I cover all the bases on that.

**master of ordinance**

The girl should never have answered the door, so its her fault.

Blaming the Victim-Dakka way of life.

But seriously this is sick, those 2 gaks should be shot.

**Gutsnagga**

This is very sad, I really don't understand people like this or what motivates them to do things like this...

Jihadin wrote:
National Guard get activated by the governor for 29 days to do that. People on here be all over the Federal Government for sending in Combat troops. Regardless of MOS all they see is a weapon and uniform and its "Infantry" to them. Lets not forget the fact of "Blind obedience to Orders" perception some have on here. Let alone the fact we're willing to kill kids and adults because we're blood thirsty killers. Think I cover all the bases on that.

Jihadin, I'm sorry, but I swear I cannot understand a single one of your posts in this thread. The sentences just don't make sense to me.

**gossipmeng**

Now you have to pay for food and a facility to house the criminals. When such a senseless crime is committed (like this one for instance) you should just take them out back after trial and shoot them. Done.