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Bored and wanted a new army, but wanted to keep away from my usual route since i mainly play daemons and nids.
Wanted to run an army with as much armour as i possibly can at 1,500/2,000 points.

So, i need some input from dakka and some ideas if possible please.

Rough ideas i have:

BA - Bare captain, 3 vindi's / whirls / preds, 3 baals, units of 5 in razors.
Simple enough i guess, but really seems to lack.
It is however, an army im familiar with.

IG - cheap HQ, 2 units of mech vets, then simply fill out on tanks.
This would be my favored choice of these 2, but im pretty much lost when it comes to IG vehicles, so if someone has any ideas on the better vehicles, then by all means, please say


So all im looking for is an army with a ton of armour, but i dont want any fliers. (really dont like them)
So any and all help would be appreciated

"Imperial Armour Volume One - Second Edition: Imperial Guard" has an Armoured Battlegroup list allowing you to field only tanks. I have 8 Leman Russ's in 1500 points.

I believe the second Vraks book from FW also has an all tank army you can run.

As much as i'd love to go with it, i really did forget about FW.
Alot of the players round this way wont play anything but core rules, so FW is out of it :(

So i need to build this army with GW units and rules :(

 Deacis657 wrote:
I believe the second Vraks book from FW also has an all tank army you can run.

The third Vraks book (IA7) has a Krieg Armoured Battlegroup list, but that hasn't been updated to 6th yet.

Grey Knights possibly (as I'm somewhat familiar with them and C:SM only)?

Coteaz

6 x Henchmen Warband (3 acolytes + razorback)
3 x LRC

Comes out to 1207 so room to upgrade the razorbacks as you see fit.

At 2k, go with a double FOC

Coteaz
Bare Inquisitor

6 x Henchmen Warbands + Razorbacks
6 x LRC

1997 points.

If no FW then IG is probably the way to go

What level of armor are you looking for and what kind?

you can get a boat load of chimeras

or you can get a bunch of land raiders (3 land raiders HS + 2 crusader squad + with DT land raiders is under 1500)

Well, BA with mainly AV13 could be an option: fast tanks like Vindicators and Predators, and Furioso Dreads.

I've run an Imperial Fists list with Lysander and 5 Assault Terminators in a Land Raider Redeemer, four 5-man combat squads with flamers inside las Razorbacks and 3 Whirlwinds at 1500 points. It was fun to play and did fairly well.

Im pretty much looking for as much hard hitting armour as i can get, so im looking for an army that has a variety of tanks for dealing with horde and other armour.

I do like BA, but i feel the anti-troops really does lack, which is a shame.

As far as the lists go, i want to run bare bones HQ and units just to fill that minimum requirement.
Then i want to fill the rest with tanks.

I run a 4 dedicated transport Land Raider List with Blood Angels. Tthat's about 1400-1600 Points, and you can add more tanks in the fast or heavy slots for an all tank army. It's a very fun list, you can also do it with razorbacks and add even more tanks in the heavy and fast slots.

"So im looking for an army that has a variety of tanks for dealing with horde and other armour."

The answer is IG.

Get a bunch of lemons in pairs probably
- Eradicator for pesky Tau,
- Vanquisher for tanks
- executioners for leets
- hell hounds or bane wolves (maybe both) for 3/4+
- vendettas if your into that sort of thing

All of which can benefit from some Tactical genius

Also marbo but he was in your list already.

You can get about 8 or so lemons in 1500 points. just get two units of vets and a commissar.

For IG at 2k run 2 Lord commissars and attach them to 2 melta vet squads in chimeras, then include 2 more melta vet squads in chimeras, 2 hq, 4 troops, then spam as many russes as you can fit in.. Punishers, vanquishers, executioners, and standard LRBT's with maybe an eradicator would all be great to include.

Just been looking through a ton of reviews and random ramblings on the codex for IG, so want to run through a quick check before i order some stuff.

Primaris psyker seems to be a nice, cheap HQ choice and hes a single model (so i can throw him in a unit, in a chimera)

Troops wise, i can run 2 units of 5 storm troopers in chimeras and thats the troops filled.

That then leaves me the fun of filling out on armour.

Am i thinking right so far?
Just want to fill the basic choices as cheap as possible (points and money wise)



Vanquisher with pask seems costly, but good to some degree.

The manticore seems pretty damn amazing, more so since the people i play on a regular basis run orks, nids and horde guard.

The basic russ seems nice, and is versatile enough to deal with different targets.

Demolisher seems as good as it allways has been.


Thinking of this as a basic order to get me started:

Primaris psyker
2 units of 5 storm troopers
2 chimeras (for above)
Manticore
2 russ's
And of course, the codex.

That runs me to just shy of £200 and should be an ok starting point.
Just want to make sure its a fully legal army before i order.

I would stick to either;
IG; mechvets+leman russ - this army is the arch typical armoured tank list. It can field the most tanks of any army
or
SM-Iron Hands; IWND on all your vehicles, you can some fairly effective armoured lists with this.

I think you mean veteran squad not storm troopers but yeah pretty much

If you take IG, what you do is take meltavets in chimeras and fill the rest of the list with leman russes. not variants, not upgrades, just leman russes. Some of the variants are nifty, some of them can work well, but point for point you can't beat a standard, stripped down, no-nonsense Leman Russ.

It annihilates Infanry and can take out even Light vehicles. It has great armor and a llong rranged ordnance weapon. seriously, This tank wins battle, and by not upgrading to one of the variants, you can maximise your hulls on table. Also, you might want to dip into fast attack to get one of the Iguard's aircraft for AA duty.



But seriouusly... base LRBT, no really

Desubot - Thanks
GW still lists them as stormtroops in the trrops section lol.
Might aswell just field them as vets though as i prefer the look of them.


androcles138 - As i keep saying, im not interested in the basic units, so meltavets dont interest me in the slightest.
Maybe later on in time ill think about it, but for now i want to get a rough army off the ground and working so i have a starting point for it.

 Jackal wrote:
Desubot - Thanks
GW still lists them as stormtroops in the trrops section lol.
Might aswell just field them as vets though as i prefer the look of them.


androcles138 - As i keep saying, im not interested in the basic units, so meltavets dont interest me in the slightest.
Maybe later on in time ill think about it, but for now i want to get a rough army off the ground and working so i have a starting point for it.

If you dont use melta vets what do you plan on using then?

(HQ) Lord Commissar - 70 pts

(T) Veterans (10) w/ (2) melta, chimera - 155 pts

(T) Veterans (10) w/ (2) flamer, chimera - 145 pts

(HS) Leman Russ Exterminator (2) w/ (2) bolter sponsons, Leman Russ Punisher w/ bolter sponson, Pask, - 590 pts

(HS) Leman Russ Vanquisher (3) w/ lascannon - 510 pts

(HS) Leman Russ Executioner (2), Leman Russ Battle Tank - 530 pts

2000 points

Can primaris psyker use divination? probably better to use that then.

Cheapest HQ you can pick up (CCS), two base veteran squads, fill on Leman Russes. Add in Hellhounds, Bassies, Chimerae for variety.

If you want all tanks then that is the best way IMO. Russes are sill tough, and have enough variety to tackle pretty much anything thrown at you.

Could ally in Tau for a Hammerhead or Space Marines for a LR.

Could also do dual force org at 2k points.

2 BA HQ, 4 BA mechanised troops

Then you've got 6 heavy slots to put a whole bunch of fast BA tanks into. Scary!

If you're gonna go with Imperial Guard, definitely take two HQ's at 2k points so you can use all six slots. Six Leman Russes that aren't restricted to squadrons can be pretty terrifying

Your going to need some form of Anti-Air.

My vote would be with

blood angels - fast mech & you could add in some decent air

dark angels - tri-raider (crusader) with the salvo 2-4 bolter banner (what I personally play) with a PFG trailing behind for a 4+ invu - you pretty much have to ignore fliers

Imp guard - troops in chimeras / vendettas & mass leman russes (taking a mix between the regular, one with the vindicator cannon, and plasma variants)

also remember with guard you can take flamer vets and give them demo charges for an ordnance and mass flamer templates (which I would prefer over melta vets imo)

 Jackal wrote:
Bored and wanted a new army, but wanted to keep away from my usual route since i mainly play daemons and nids.
Wanted to run an army with as much armour as i possibly can at 1,500/2,000 points.

So, i need some input from dakka and some ideas if possible please.

Rough ideas i have:

BA - Bare captain, 3 vindi's / whirls / preds, 3 baals, units of 5 in razors.
Simple enough i guess, but really seems to lack.
It is however, an army im familiar with.

IG - cheap HQ, 2 units of mech vets, then imply fill out on tanks.
This would be my favored choice of these 2, but im pretty much lost when it comes to IG vehicles, so if someone has any ideas on the better vehicles, then by all means, please say


So all im looking for is an army with a ton of armour, but i dont want any fliers. (really dont like them)
So any and all help would be appreciated

You can't go wrong with an IG armored list that if used in the right combination and played correctly can be top teir. IG can get a lot of tanks and still have a good chunk of infantry to score. Base russ tanks, eradicator tanks, cheap flak tanks, and solid av12 transports make solid lists in different combinations.
However, necrons are the bane of any heavy armored lists due to their crazy stupid amount of anti tank they have in their codex.
They have arguably the most broken flying tansport that can drop off auto glancing gaus warriors. Then their scarab swarms can move fast across the table top and literaly eat tanks alive. On top of that they can take combos that can cause all game to treat the table as difficult and difficult terrain as dangerous while having an HQ that for the first turn cause difficult terrain to be dangerous and dangerous as double dangerous I.e. don't roll a 2 on that terrain piece. Overall the necrons just say "NO" to heavy mech lists.

If you are going to go IG then try;
2x CCS (100 pts)
4x Vets (280 pts)
5x Vendetta (650 pts)
6x LRBT (900 pts)
ADL+comms
2000 pts

The look on the opponent's face when your AV14 vehicle has a 4+ cover save should be good.

I like that IG list.

if your still not set on IG..

Tau:

Fireblade/etheral

6xfw in DF, 4 or 5

Piranhas/Tetras

3 hammerheads and or n# of skyrays.

Same goes for eldar,

cheap autarch,

guardians or DA in serpents

Vipers for FA

Prisms or Falcons for support