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Fairytale Games: The Miniatures Campaign

I saw no one else had posted about it. Looks like some great minis so here it is.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/682539325/fairytale-games-the-miniatures-campaign

This is a follow-up from their 1st card game kickstarter. It had great art and slipped in 40 models at the end but w/o details about the figures, or even a sculptor, I didn't back.

This second campaign is mostly about minis. New ones. And great looking ones. Although the Frog Prince is supposed to be getting a facelift.








Greenbrier Games, makers (?) of Zpocalypse are doing the sculpts, and more specifically, a guy who was a character modeler for Bioshock.

It's been said they'll be cast in a stronger PVC and have unique bases.

They're supposed to post 8-9 finalized models from the first campaign (Weds or Thurs, Oct. 9 or 10) but they've only got one so far, the Mad Hatter, and he looks great.

http://thefairytalegames.com/minis/


This is what you get for $100 at the Big Bad Wolf level:



At the Nutcracker Prince level you get the same minis above and the 40 minis from the last campaign for $240. Pretty good deal to me.

Shipping:

US = Free Shipping
Canada = $20
Europe = $30
Other Countries = $40


The only snag I see for some dakkanauts is the scale, set to be 35mm. Some people take the scale thing pretty seriously here. I'm a painter so it's all good to me.

My understanding. Is that these weren't miniatures so much as they're more like Fantasy flight board game pieces.

I backed the original card game, but their comment section... *shudder*.

It's just too much.

I like the concept, but things feel so vague I'm hesitant to give them any more money. I understand their logic behind this campaign- the whole strike while the iron is hot.

I just need a bit more concrete stuff from them.

 cincydooley wrote:
My understanding. Is that these weren't miniatures so much as they're more like Fantasy flight board game pieces.

But what else are miniatures other than miniature representations of something? Whether they are pieces for a board game, figures for display or pieces to a wargame, none of those factors impact whether or not they are miniatures.

They are a single piece PVC miniature, so in that regard they are like Clix and many of the figures used in various board games like the Arkham miniatures by FFG. However, the level of detail that Green Briar is getting is much better than what you find on most board game pieces. You can look up pictures from their Zpocalypse games to see how the material transfers from concept to final product.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
I backed the original card game, but their comment section... *shudder*.

It's just too much.

I like the concept, but things feel so vague I'm hesitant to give them any more money. I understand their logic behind this campaign- the whole strike while the iron is hot.

I just need a bit more concrete stuff from them.

I have similar feelings to be honest. They dropped the 40 minis in at the end of the first campaign clearly without any real forethought. No sculptors, certainly. But so far they seem like they're pulling through. Still, $100,000 to make all that art from last campaign, then to produce moulds for 40 miniatures? Worry, yes.

So I'm hoping this second campaign does well for them.

But what else are miniatures other than miniature representations of something? Whether they are pieces for a board game, figures for display or pieces to a wargame, none of those factors impact whether or not they are miniatures.

As Sean said.

Yes, they're basically game tokens, but they're great ones. And rather creative takes on some interesting characters.
I really can't get over how great that Mad Hatter character looks.

The artwork for them is excellent, and the sculpts I'm seeing look pretty good too. I dig what I see so far.

Yeah, there's some nice sculpts in there so far. Not sure why, but I particularly like Jack and Jill. And the Hatter is ace.

Really like the Esmerelda sculpt. What scale are these going to be?

@Sean - are they similar to the Zombicide game pieces then? I've not ever handled a zPocalypse game piece.

 -Loki- wrote:
Really like the Esmerelda sculpt. What scale are these going to be?

35mm

Flying monkeys!!!!!!

Some of the minis look nice - but this has to be one of the most confusing Kickstarters I've ever seen.

If they made skirmish rules to go with these minis that would be fantastic.

From Update #10 http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/682539325/fairytale-games-the-miniatures-campaign/posts/624568:

New 3D sculpts or improvements:

Cinderella with new pumpkin base


Frog Prince with a new face... much better!


And for 2 minis from the 1st kickstarter, that you can still get in this campaign as the 'Sacred 40':
Rumplestiltskin


And Snow White


Also, by Tuesday there is supposed to be a posting of sculpts for these characters:

Captain Hook
Headless Horseman
Huntsman
Mowgli
Pinocchio

You know, looking at the first post, I was just thinking "that frog prince looks like a nice idea, shame about his face", but then I scrolled down the page and bingo!

That one has got xmas-present-for-non-games playing-relative written all over it.

New and improve sculpts uploaded to the main site: http://thefairytalegames.com/minis/

Snow White with a new face (although I had no trouble with the old one)


King Arthur


Mowgli


As always, I'm rather impressed! I'm in for the $240 level now.

Have they shown any production models yet?

Been very impressed with this one.
Not backing due to spending too much on KS in general... but had I backed #1 I would be on this like a flash.

Since Greenbrier Games (Zpocalpyse) is doing the minis, production models from that campaign would be similar.

However, the plastic is supposed to be a harder like the Zpocalypse: Aftermath expansion.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/greenbriergames/zpocalypse-aftermath-this-time-the-living-are-risi/posts/544372

Examples without checking the link.

3D Sculpt:



3D Sculpt:



You might want to check their updates though. I haven't found an actual review of a miniature enthusiast review the minis though.

More updated sculpts. And there should be 2 more by the end of the campaign, Red (riding hood) and the Headless Horseman. And the minis are coming out as pretty much exact copies of the concept art so that's posted below as well.

New sculpts:

Sherlock Holmes


Quasimodo


Pinnochio - This one is list with an explicit message that says its a WIP, v 1.0


Concept for Red


Concept for Headless Horseman

Anyone have any idea how the game actually plays?

Oh, I like that Horseman concept!

 cincydooley wrote:
Anyone have any idea how the game actually plays?

Piecing together what I've glanced at. Mind you, I'm a painter and couldn't care less about the game so I probably missed some other info.

From update #9:

The first game is temporarily called Fairytale Escape. Weirdly enough, one of our backers also suggested a game idea to us that's very similar (props to Ira!)

The premise of Fairytale Escape is that when the Trinity (Queen of Hearts, Evil Queen, and the Frost Queen) began gathering heroes and villains, they didn't just throw them into the Fairytale Games. Instead, they go into confinement. As a character in this game, you will try to escape imprisonment with or without the help of your fellow players. There will be a lot of obstacles in your way as well as more exploration Fairytale Games style.

So what makes this unique? Different than our main game, we will be using tiles instead of location cards. The tiles will allow you to move a little more traditionally from room to room and offer a lot of surprises along the way. Also, players will be taking their turns simultaneously. That way, you can help or hurt each other on the fly or stay back and watch another player take a beating while you sneak past it all and find a shiv in the corner of a room. Well, not a shiv but you get the point.

You will also be able to use most cards from the card game in this game as well to offer more dynamic play. Of course some of their uses and rulings will be different, but this pretty much gives you a chance to not only extend your mileage on the minis, but also the cards as well!

Can I play this with the main game too? Actually if you really want to have a large game night, you can start the game here and try to escape with other players. Once you do, the story actually takes you into the Fairytale Games. The point of Fairytale Escape, from the Trinity's perspective is to give all characters a small test of survival before even being allowed to participate in the Fairytale Games. That's right... Fairytale Escape is your pre-requisite. If you chose to play this way, any ally or item you acquire in this game will carry on into the main game!

Is this also solo-player? Yes. And this gameplay mechanic has been tested under a different theme. But since that game system never moved forward in that game, we were given the green light by the developer to use it to build Fairytale Escape off of.
Fairytale Quests!

Definitely not the actual name. LOL.

So what kind of game is this? Think Dungeon Crawler. This game idea was actually planted in our minds during the last campaign by one of our backers as well (props to SaucyJack!)

This one will be in the style of team/group play where you explore the inner dungeons of Atlantis, Dragon's Den, Bog of the Jabberwock and the like. Find treasure, upgrade your characters and battle against ferocious bosses! And what's that? Yes... minions, minions, and more minions!

Traditionally, one player will be controlling the Boss, minions, and rouge characters to go up against the "heroes/heroines" of the quest. The Boss will have its own tactical deck for battle while the minions will use ability dice and tactic cards to try to eliminate the invaders. And yes, there will be traps.

The "heroes/heroines" will have their own tactical deck and Utility Boards that will allow them to keep track of items, stats, and health as they wade through the dungeon and fight off minions.

Now, here's where things get different.... You can still backstab your teammates. You might not want to, but if you do, you'll definitely have to take responsibility of your actions. During the dungeon crawl, there will be events that happen, which will keep the unpredictability of the game high and there will be NPCs that will offer side-quests for you to do for them, giving you great rewards or more ways to perish. One other thing that makes this special is that there are character combo moves that when a certain pair are together and the right opportunity is available, you can unleash team special moves!

So um... can you use this with the main game as well?

Yes. If you want to extend your play in Fairytale Games: The Battle Royale (or other editions), these dungeons are based off of actual quests from the main game. So instead of completing objectives and fighting a boss via cards, you can move directly into the corresponding dungeon and battle it out for real.

So if you want a SUPER long gaming night, try combing Fairytale Escape, a Standalone Fairytale Games Edition, then add the right Fairytale Quest when needed. Talk about LEGEN............DARY!
I know you can't talk about the third game. But... a hint? Something?

The only thing I can give you is one word. SKIRMISH.

And a post by the creator Oct. 17th:

We're definitely going to get you as much mileage for the miniatures as possible. What began as player tokens will be something even more adaptable to our upcoming minis games than we've let on. There's a few important details I'm not able to mention just yet but once I can, there will definitely be an "Ooohhhh! Now I get it!" kind of moment for a lot of backers. In my personal opinion (that way the team can't slap me around if I say something wrong...lol) I believe that this campaign is both an upgrade to the Fairytale Games Card Games and also an investment to the upcoming games introduced next year. To be honest, I'm sure we'll have another Kickstarter campaign highlighting these games. Not necessarily for funding, but for also promoting them and giving our Backers Royale a very cost effective opportunity to get them all in one place (along with a lot more exclusives.) We'll also keep growing the minis to give players more options and variety in our games, but by getting them in the Kickstarter they're introduced in, you'll be sure to be getting them at the best moment. The other thing I love about our upcoming games is that they will also make use of some of the cards from the card game. I think any way to upgrade "replayability" into "expandability" for a tabletop, is a step in a positive direction for the industry. I know it's not really related, but when I used to play Magic The Gathering, I really hated (but understood) their decision to differentiate Standard, Extended, and Legendary levels of play. It phased out all the cards I spent so much money for and nobody wanted to play even extended with me because "standard" was always well, standard. LOL. So I was very adamant in giving people flexibility and adaptability in our games. I want players to always have an excuse to take Battle Royale or Horror Edition off the shelves one night even when not playing the card game. You don't have to use the cards from the card game, but if you do, you can up the gameplay

Sadly. That told me little to nothing. What is the "original" game? I'm having trouble seeing these as anything more than board game pawns at this point, which isn't bad, but I'm having trouble reconciling the price because of that. If there was actual game attached to the minis, it would be easier for me.

It's frustrating, cause I've trolled the Ks, and their website, and even looked for info on BGG, and info on the actual game is scarce at best.

Scarecrow up:

 cincydooley wrote:
Sadly. That told me little to nothing. What is the "original" game? I'm having trouble seeing these as anything more than board game pawns at this point, which isn't bad, but I'm having trouble reconciling the price because of that. If there was actual game attached to the minis, it would be easier for me.

It's frustrating, cause I've trolled the Ks, and their website, and even looked for info on BGG, and info on the actual game is scarce at best.

There's stuff out there on the original game- Fairy Tale Battle Royale. I remember reading through rules for basic and advanced combat. Not sure where I read it now, but there's definitely been chunks of rules talked about.

I do like their ideas, and backed the "original" game, but at this point, I really feel I'm paying for vaporware. The fans in the comments have turned the place into their own private blog, and I've given up trying to even check it out.

Still no actual test molds.

The only thing I can think of is this got funded quickly because of a lot of goodwill from their first campaign, but I think it's time to start getting something more substantial than nice figure renders out there.

I don't think any other miniatures KS would be able to get away with that.

Have they even delivered on their 1st KS yet?

 cincydooley wrote:
Have they even delivered on their 1st KS yet?

Ha...ha...HA.

Of course not.

I don't think they even sent out their martial arts card game they made before forming their new company (it was put up by the Fairy Tale creator).

I know part of this campaign was to get produced in tandem with the first game to cut down on costs, so we'll see when things actually get shipped out.

Schmapdi wrote:
Some of the minis look nice - but this has to be one of the most confusing Kickstarters I've ever seen.

I have to agree.

For example, if I want all of the miniatures, plus the game...what do I pledge?

And, if I just want a bunch of miniatures - any miniatures, what level do I pledge at?

And where is the list of the 'Sacred 40", that seem to be a special tier of minis?

And, perhaps most importantly at this point, if I only want THE HORSEMAN, what level do I pledge at?

Thanks!

greywulf wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:
Really like the Esmerelda sculpt. What scale are these going to be?

35mm

WHYYYYYYY. Why do companies constantly try and reinvent the wheel in regards to scale? Just go with what fits in with the stuff people have already.