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Destroyer lord semp, mind shackle-160pt
Overlord semp,mind shackle-90pt
Despair veil,shroud,abyssal staff-70

Elites-
5 deathmarks in scythe-195

Troops
5 necron warriors in scythe-165
5 necron warrior in scythe- 165
Necron immortal tesla-170

Fast attack
6 wraiths 3 coils- 260
5x destroyers -200

Heavy

Ann barge-90

Total:1545 pts

Hmm. An overlord with SW and MSS is 115pts I think?

If the veiltek is for the deathmarks, you can ditch the veil - they have a scythe so that should do.

Actually, just ditch a destroyer.

If you want to slim it, I'd get rid of the Destroyers. You could get another annihilation barge, pay for the stuff you haven't paid for on your overlord and still save 85 points off the top of my head. So if you are going for 1500 that would give you 40 to put back into a few more troops maybe?

K ill update one soon

Sorry for the wait
Out of these 2 which do you think is da best




Necrons cheese balls1460 pt

Destroyer lord semp, mind shackle-160pt
Destroyer lord semp, mind shackle-160pt

Troops
5 necron warriors in scythe-165
5 necron warrior in scythe- 165
Necron immortal tesla-170

Fast attack
6 wraiths 2 coils- 230pt
6 wraiths 2 coils-230pt



Heavy support
Barge-90
Barge-90








Necron firepower 1560pt

Destroyer lord semp, mind shackle-160pt
Overlord semp,mind shackle ,orb -150pt
Stormtek voltaic staff lightning field and ether crystal-50pt

Troops
5 necron warriors ghost arc-180pt
5 necron warrior ghost arc-180pt
20 warriors-260 pt storm tek and overlord
10 Necron immortal tesla-170

Fast attack
6 wraiths 3 coils- 260


Heavy
Ann barge-90
Ann barge-90

 shiny magikarp wrote:


Necrons cheese balls1460 pt

Destroyer lord semp, mind shackle-160pt
Destroyer lord semp, mind shackle-160pt

Troops
5 necron warriors in scythe-165
5 necron warrior in scythe- 165
Necron immortal tesla-170

Fast attack
6 wraiths 2 coils- 230pt
6 wraiths 2 coils-230pt

Heavy support
Barge-90
Barge-90

Where's the ?
But seriously, if you are going to do wraithwing, swap the Immortals for the third scythe (assuming you have one!).
And with the spare points, put an orb on the destro lord. If his wraith squad gets killed and he gets back up he can always run with the Tesla immortals. Preferred enemy on tesla immortals

 shiny magikarp wrote:

Necron firepower 1560pt

Destroyer lord semp, mind shackle-160pt
Overlord semp,mind shackle ,orb -150pt
Stormtek voltaic staff lightning field and ether crystal-50pt

Troops
5 necron warriors ghost arc-180pt
5 necron warrior ghost arc-180pt
20 warriors-260 pt storm tek and overlord
10 Necron immortal tesla-170

Fast attack
6 wraiths 3 coils- 260

Heavy
Ann barge-90
Ann barge-90

For this list, ditch the lightningtek and put phaeron on the Overlord instead. That way, if anyone gets too close to the blob, you can rapid fire the blob then assault. 44 attacks on the charge ftw!.

I prefer list 2, mainly because I find wraithwing boring to play. However, ymmv.

Which do you think would do better in game and higher points?

list one says
6 wraith 2 coils 230
list two says
6 wraith 3 coils 260

The points difference should only be ten
I see math problems here :S

 shiny magikarp wrote:
Which do you think would do better in game and higher points?

Depends on your opponents, your skill level yada yada yada.

Wraithwing is fast moving and can be hard to deal with for many armies, so in theory should do "better" with "less effort on your part". In your cheese balls list, if you dump the immortals and swap for another warrior/scythe group, you will have a true wraithwing. You can expand up to 2000 and beyond by adding another wraith unit, another AB, another warrior group. At that point, interweb says you have the "only competitive Necron build". Note that Tau or Eldar have the shooting capability to decimate the wraithgroups quickly, so if your meta/tournaments are heavy Tau/Eldar, you will have to work hard and play well to win.

Conversely, list 2 will require more skill to play but many opponents will have trouble putting the blob down permanently - reanimation protocols and GA ftw -(other than taudar, eldau....for the sake of this post assume that eldar and tau will give you problems).

Both lists have the at least three troops which is good, have assault capabilities and tesla. You also have mobility in both lists (moreso with scythes obviously) but the lower mobility is balanced by more troops in the "firepower" list.

So, really, your call.

hmmm well my friends are pretty competitive but ill go with list 2 but a finalized list. thanks so much mark and kon for the point ms calculation


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Necron firepower 1520pt

Destroyer lord semp, mind shackle-160pt
Overlord semp,mind shackle, orb,phaeron-170pt
Stormtek voltaic staff lightning field and ether crystal-50pt

Troops
5 necron warriors ghost arc-180pt
5 necron warrior ghost arc-180pt
15 warriors 195 pt storm tek and overlord
5 necron warrior night scythe-175pt

Fast attack
6 wraiths 2 coils- 230


Heavy
Ann barge-90
Ann barge-90

I'm not sure on your general level of opponent but if it were me playing you I wouldn't put a unit within 12 inches of your blob squad as that would be suicidal. So that means your stormtek might become useless, I personally like where your heading but I'd possibly drop the tek and the mss on the lord just to add 5 more warrior to the blob and bring you down to 1500 pts


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Also I'm pretty sure 5 warriors in a nightscythe is 165.

Damnit I suck at adding points lol

Do you guys think wraithwing is still reliable even though all of the anti flyer weapons people will prepared for?
Plus arc with crap ton of warriors seems more scary due to the amount of shots they get

Also do you think I can some how use destroyers in this list?

Wraithwing is going to be reliable - many armies have trouble with multiple flyers. However, again it depends on the meta you play and also how you want to play.

The key advantage wraithwing has is that they are hard to hit - Eldar/Tau put out enormous numbers of shots (although AV13 is hard to pen for many of their shooters) - Once they get a pen, GA will be in trouble.

If you use destroyers, you'll need some form of counter CC. so maybe some points for destroyers, with a scarab unit as well. I find destroyers underwhelming, but will use the heavy destroyers (despite their cost). Particularly if you keep the destro lord to lead them - that 2+ and res orb is vital for destroyers.

Wraithwing is great, so is the scarab farm and the phalanx. This is why necrons are a good force my advice is try them all, proxy if need be, find ur favourites and go nuts.

Hmm should I take out a arc for a scythe?
Use a triach for anti tank twin link gauss cannons
Or go with kranki's idea
Which do you think would be the best against a really skilled eldar player