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Hey all,

Just going to start Fantasy with my Daemons, but they all have 40k bases right now...

I know fantasy is all about the formation and stuff, but is it game legal to have them in 40k bases with a bigger movement tray?

Since the only movement trays I see aren't tightly compact for round bases, so I'm not too sure if that makes an impact on the game or not...

Thanks

It should be fine. Just check with your opponent first.

Base to base is important when working out melee combat. I would recommend you find out the dimensions of your chosen formation if you wish to make some yourself.

Having said that I had heard that the movement trays for the larger scaled LOTR game work really well for 40k to Fantasy Daemon usage. So that might be worth looking into.

The LOTR movement trays are too wide IIRC

I also use round based daemons in fantasy your biggest problem will be 60mm round bases as they are a little wider then the comparable square bases. The infantry bases are fine to be honest i did go to the trouble of getting round cut movement trays but these turned out to be well too wide (my models 5 wide is 6 models wide in normal movement trays)

All I did was used normal movement trays, magnetic sheet on the bottom of them and UK pennies (magnectic again) glued i the recess of the base which is a snug fit.

I can take some pictures tomorrow if you want


The biker bases to cav bases are longer which is a disadvantage to you (wider flank) also. But I do agree with Eldarain, movement and arcs so very important in fantasy but considering you have daemons which are a little easier to learn seeing as you have 40k knowledge imo they are a good starter army, not the easiest to use or build armies for (unless you go nurgle)

 Makutsu wrote:
Hey all,

Just going to start Fantasy with my Daemons, but they all have 40k bases right now...

I know fantasy is all about the formation and stuff, but is it game legal to have them in 40k bases with a bigger movement tray?

Since the only movement trays I see aren't tightly compact for round bases, so I'm not too sure if that makes an impact on the game or not...

Thanks

Step 1: Get the modular movement tray that GW sells and cut each of the 25mm(you have two different kinds of squares, one side is 20mm and the other is 25mm) squares so you have them individually.
Step 2: Take some filler putty and fill in each of the squares in such a way that you leave room for your round bases to sit securely in there.

If done properly, you should have no real problems and make the round bases look as though they're part of the square base. I cannot think of any real issue unless you mess up on the base sizes.

My google-fu revealed these.

 HoverBoy wrote:
My google-fu revealed these.

They would be ok with me, its no big deal to work out who should fight but i would just put them on a standard movement tray either home made or off the shelf dont worry about slots.
I have always been a whfb player but when i did dabble in 40k i used my Deamons on the square bases which gives a tiny advantage to your opponent but who cares? To be honest anyone who is going to make a big deal out of it isnt worth playing-your not going to get a fun time out of them.

jprp wrote:

 HoverBoy wrote:
My google-fu revealed these.

They would be ok with me, its no big deal to work out who should fight but i would just put them on a standard movement tray either home made or off the shelf dont worry about slots.
I have always been a whfb player but when i did dabble in 40k i used my Deamons on the square bases which gives a tiny advantage to your opponent but who cares? To be honest anyone who is going to make a big deal out of it isnt worth playing-your not going to get a fun time out of them.

Just make sure that your movement tray is the correct dimensions, or mark on the outside of the tray where the divisions ought to be for properly-sized models.

And while yes, little things like this shouldn't *really* matter, it does leave a bitter taste in your mouth when it has an effect in-game where it should not have.

It's certainly not legal. Using any kind of tray with 40k bases will result in your unit having larger frontage than it should have, which allows it to see more units etc.

That said, I'm sure some people wouldn't mind you doing so in a friendly environment, especially if you're just starting out.

 The Shadow wrote:
It's certainly not legal. Using any kind of tray with 40k bases will result in your unit having larger frontage than it should have, which allows it to see more units etc.

Oh wow i didn't realise that 25mm bases where bigger than 25mm bases.

 HoverBoy wrote:

 The Shadow wrote:
It's certainly not legal. Using any kind of tray with 40k bases will result in your unit having larger frontage than it should have, which allows it to see more units etc.

Oh wow i didn't realise that 25mm bases where bigger than 25mm bases.

Wow, I didn't realise that everything came with 25mm bases. Oh, that's because everything doesn't. The trick might work for Daemons, but don't expect it to carry on for everything else.

The OP clearly stated daemons.

Hey all, thanks for the opinion!

I created some of my own movement trays and found out that for basic infantry most of the have the exact same covering, so I don't think this will become a problem! Thanks!

 The Shadow wrote:

 HoverBoy wrote:

 The Shadow wrote:
It's certainly not legal. Using any kind of tray with 40k bases will result in your unit having larger frontage than it should have, which allows it to see more units etc.

Oh wow i didn't realise that 25mm bases where bigger than 25mm bases.

Wow, I didn't realise that everything came with 25mm bases. Oh, that's because everything doesn't. The trick might work for Daemons, but don't expect it to carry on for everything else.

As next poster says, OP clearly pointed out it was for Daemons. GW's only rule in the matter is that you're supposed to use the bases that come with the models. Daemons come with both, so he can put them on either one. He's following GW's rules to the letter. 100% legal, no matter how many players want to disagree.

Been looking all over the place for this myself, for the same reason (plus add O&G into the mix)

I've decided to try doing it myself. Take a movement tray, and put blobs of green stuff in the gaps that would be created if you simply placed the round base models on the tray in formation Add round bases and press them against the green stuff as needed, then remove.

The result *should* be a flat tray with protruding parts that hold the round bases in a fantasy formation, with no different a frontage to square bases.

Keyword is should =/

If that doesn't work, a friend of mine has done it by simply gluing magnets in the appropriate places