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Hey all,


I'm no student of politics but when someone tells me that Canada and Europe are going into a free trade agreement to drop import taxes to next to nill. Would this also mean that Games Workshop might actually be sold on par with what the UK players are paying? Cause something GW doesn't realize is if it was cheaper, i wouldn't save money. I would just buy MOAR!!!!


http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ceta-canada-eu-free-trade-deal-lauded-by-harper-barroso-1.2125122

No.

decoste007xt wrote:
Hey all,


I'm no student of politics but when someone tells me that Canada and Europe are going into a free trade agreement to drop import taxes to next to nill. Would this also mean that Games Workshop might actually be sold on par with what the UK players are paying? Cause something GW doesn't realize is if it was cheaper, i wouldn't save money. I would just buy MOAR!!!!


http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ceta-canada-eu-free-trade-deal-lauded-by-harper-barroso-1.2125122

It's the difference in currency, rather than imposed tariffs, at are affecting the price of GW in Canada.

For Australians, it's... well. Dunno. Poor bastards...

No, it wouldn't. All European countries don't pay the same as UK, so why would Canada?

Though would it mean Wayland for example could start deliver to Canada?

 fishy bob wrote:
Though would it mean Wayland for example could start deliver to Canada?

That's certainly an interesting thought. It would depend on what the terms of the FTA were.

I thought they were calling it the CETA?

And for my 5¢ worth, they've only been talking about wines and cheeses so far in the news.

We have a long way to go before we get "reduced" prices on GW stuff.

Even though the article indicates that we're still looking at 1-2 years for ratification, this should be a good thing. It certainly would help me save some cash on my Forgeworld addiction.

Unfortunately I don't think so.

Firstly, I don't believe there is anything illegal about selling your product at different RRPs in different territories, there are many items that sell for different prices in different countries.

Secondly, it is legal for a wholesaler to issue a licence to sell their product in a specific territory only. This is a contractual item between the two parties, and I don't think this would invalidate that.

It could, from my layperson perspective, perhaps give the likes of Wayland more of a secure platform to challenge their terms as unfair, but they'd (Wayland) need to have them bang to rights if it were to achieve anything more substantial than cutting their nose off to spite their face (ie GW simply choose to stop their supply, which they are, within certain limitations, within their rights to do)

 kronk wrote:

decoste007xt wrote:
Hey all,


I'm no student of politics but when someone tells me that Canada and Europe are going into a free trade agreement to drop import taxes to next to nill. Would this also mean that Games Workshop might actually be sold on par with what the UK players are paying? Cause something GW doesn't realize is if it was cheaper, i wouldn't save money. I would just buy MOAR!!!!


http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ceta-canada-eu-free-trade-deal-lauded-by-harper-barroso-1.2125122

It's the difference in currency, rather than imposed tariffs, at are affecting the price of GW in Canada.

For Australians, it's... well. Dunno. Poor bastards...

Australian prices are high because GW, like most retailers here, liked it 15 years ago when we paid triple for everything. When our dollar got stronger, GW again like most retailers didn't reduce their prices. However, some industries never raised them (we're paying $30rrp for a DVD or CD now like we did in the late 90's). GW just kept raising them.

However, we're no longer the 'poor bastards'. Americans are. Because GW is 'normalising' prices, and they're doing it based on Australian prices. You know those ridiculous price increases over the last few years? We were spared most of them. Because it was GW normalising worldwide prices to roughly what Australians pay. So it's no longer worthwhile for Australians to order from the US, because we just don't save much anymore.

 azreal13 wrote:
Unfortunately I don't think so.

Firstly, I don't believe there is anything illegal about selling your product at different RRPs in different territories, there are many items that sell for different prices in different countries.

Secondly, it is legal for a wholesaler to issue a licence to sell their product in a specific territory only. This is a contractual item between the two parties, and I don't think this would invalidate that.

It could, from my layperson perspective, perhaps give the likes of Wayland more of a secure platform to challenge their terms as unfair, but they'd (Wayland) need to have them bang to rights if it were to achieve anything more substantial than cutting their nose off to spite their face (ie GW simply choose to stop their supply, which they are, within certain limitations, within their rights to do)

GW cant stop EU retailers selling to anywhere within the EU. If this new free trade agreement has similar terms, EU retailera may get free access to Canada and GW may not legally be able to tell them they cant sell there.

Canada has a lot of ancient and worthless tariffs to protect industries we don't even have, such as books.

I have to pay $17 on top of shipping for every FW book I want to purchase, this agreement might see that dropped, for instance.

I think it's a safe bet to assume that nothing will ever cause GW to drop prices.

Short answer would be no.

Canada and the US(and Mexico) have had the North American Free Trade Agreement for almost 20 years. Almost everything is still cheaper south of the border(when taking currency conversion into account).

Also take into account there is a GW production facility in Memphis, and taking into account the current exchange rate, Americans pay $9 less for a Tactical Squad of space marines then we do.

While the new trade agreement between the EU will lower the prices of imported wines and cheese, it's not as much due to taxation as it will be due to supply and demand(the amount of cheese the EU can export to Canada has now tripled)

This agreement will have very little to do with GW, and as such prices will remain unaffected.

 kronk wrote:


It's the difference in currency, rather than imposed tariffs, at are affecting the price of GW in Canada.

For Australians, it's... well. Dunno. Poor bastards...

A reason to play other games where you don't have to hock the house and kids just to get mandollies (Can't hock the wife - she pays for my mandollies. )

Most GW product in Canada comes through the US anyway, so it won't help.

 -Loki- wrote:
However, we're no longer the 'poor bastards'. Americans are. Because GW is 'normalising' prices, and they're doing it based on Australian prices. You know those ridiculous price increases over the last few years? We were spared most of them. Because it was GW normalising worldwide prices to roughly what Australians pay. So it's no longer worthwhile for Australians to order from the US, because we just don't save much anymore.

I just ordered 3 SM Strikeforces from Discount Games Store in the US for $177 each. They're $350RRP each here (with $495 RRP worth of items if bought individually), not sure what our discounters do, if anything. It's still very much worth buying from the US.

Surely the question you should be asking is why after so many years of NAFTA is the US and Canada still engaged in many and various petty disputes over import controls and taxes. Which I would suggest lies at the heart of the price differential, seeing as Canada is supplied by the US corporate division.