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Lately I have been thinking about starting a Marine army, and have been looking at Imperial Fists, considering they are getting their supplement soon. With a friend I have written up this list, going for something I think is very fluffy and puts out a decent amount of firepower.

Captain Lysander

5 Tactical Marines with Heavy Bolter in Razorback
5 Tactical Marines with Heavy Bolter in Razorback

Terminator Assault Squad with Thunder Hammers and Storm Shields in Land Raider Crusader

Devastator Squad with 4 Lascannons
Vindicator
Vindicator

Aegis Defence Line with Quad Gun

This comes up at just under 1500 points, but obviously the main concern is that I only have 10 scoring models. Yeah. But I was wondering if with the amount of dakka this list could drop, it would still be competitive at a friendly level? Could it be tweaked to work, or would it be best to scrap the list altogether?

Thanks

i would drop agi line ( i know sad face) but in return bump up number of marine in your squads, meybe make another 5 man squad, or add 5 to one squad, and combat squad em. because yes, you need more scoring models

Maybe drop the Devs and replace them with a laspred. Also bump the tacs up to 10 and add a melta gun. Melta guys can go in the razorback. After that I'd probably drop Lysander and the ADL and replace it with a captain and command squad. Lysander just eats up too many points for a list that isn't heavily geared for assault.


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A captain or chapter master in artificer armor with the shield eternal and a thunder hammer pretty much gives you the same thing for cheaper points and can sweep.

I think the list can definitely work. I REALLY like it.

Most games I would consider keeping the Razorbacks in reserve. This will leave you with only AV13/14 on the board and will ensure your scoring models aren't targeted first. 2 Twin-Linked Heavy Bolters won't matter too much on the first turn or two anyway.

Honestly I wouldn't make any changes, unless you can find points to put a Multi-Melta on the Land Raider Crusader.

I would definitely drop the defense line, and add more marines. I would also drop Lysander unless you just absolutely love him. If you're worried about flyers I'd swap two lascannons in the devs for missiles with flak, the signum on the sarge means one of them will get BS 5 skyfire to compensate for no defense line. I also like to have 10 devs to split them so I can have them shoot at different targets if necessary. Other than that though, I think the list would work fine if that's what you like, I'm just recommending what I like to do.

Def don't take a LasPred over the Devs, in a Fist army the Devs get much more due to Chapter Tactics.

I also wouldn't take the Devs over 5 models as then you're just paying for non-scoring Bolters with Tank Hunter over Scoring Bolters if you'd have increased your Tactical Squads.

I'd pull Lysander and Aegis. Add another, cheaper, HQ and flesh out the Tacticals.

 ninjafiredragon wrote:
i would drop agi line ( i know sad face) but in return bump up number of marine in your squads, meybe make another 5 man squad, or add 5 to one squad, and combat squad em. because yes, you need more scoring models

Agreed, with the Aegis Defense Line you're restricting your own movement and dumping a lot of points into something that isn't as effective at 1500 points. Definitely bring more tactical marines.

Thanks everyone, I'll drop Lysander but keep the defence line, take another Marine Squad and a Multi-Melta on the Land Raider, and then whatever I have left can go to the Captain. Thanks