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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/25 10:17:19
Subject: 1500 point Raven Guard competitive?
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Maniacal Gibbering Madboy
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1500 Pts - Codex: Space Marines Roster
Total Roster Cost: 1500
HQ: Chapter Master (1#, 235 pts)
1 Chapter Master, Storm Shield, Jump Pack, Artificer Armour
1 The Burning Blade,
Troops: Scout Squad (6#, 105 pts)
4 Scout Squad, 44 pts = 4 * 11
1 Sergeant, Melta Bombs
1 Land Speeder Storm,
Troops: Scout Squad (6#, 105 pts)
4 Scout Squad,
1 Sergeant, Melta Bombs
1 Land Speeder Storm,
Troops: Tactical Squad (5#, 90 pts)
4 Tactical Squad, Lascannon
1 Sergeant,
Troops: Tactical Squad (5#, 90 pts)
4 Tactical Squad, Lascannon
1 Sergeant,
Troops: Tactical Squad (5#, 90 pts)
4 Tactical Squad, Lascannon
1 Sergeant,
Troops: Tactical Squad (5#, 90 pts)
4 Tactical Squad, Lascannon
1 Sergeant,
Heavy Support: Vindicator (1#, 140 pts)
1 Vindicator, Siege Shield Storm Bolter
Heavy Support: Devastator Squad (5#, 110 pts)
4 Devastator Squad, Heavy Bolter x4
1 Sergeant,
Heavy Support: Devastator Squad (5#, 130 pts)
4 Devastator Squad, Plasma Cannon x4
1 Sergeant,
Fast Attack: Assault Squad (10#, 210 pts)
9 Assault Squad, Sergeant, Power Sword x1 Upgrade to Veteran Sergeant Grav-pistol
Fort: ADL w/ Quad gun 100pnts
this is the Raven Guard list I have been using since the codex dropped. It has 3 games under its belt and has not lost. What do you guys think? Basic idea is set the ADL a little further than my deploy ment zone and the redeploy everything further up. Since it is a redeployment and not actual movement my heavy weapons can still fire normally 1st turn. I out flank the vindicator and both scout squads.. The assault marines hold back and let the CM blast somethingand act as assault deterrent and ablative wounds. Automatically Appended Next Post: Guess people are tired of seeing space marine army lists lol
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/10/25 13:40:46
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/25 19:12:39
Subject: 1500 point Raven Guard competitive?
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Prophetic Blood Angel Librarian
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If the vindicator is outflanking it doesn't need the upgrades. If you also drop the grav pistol on the assault sarge you can upgrade the ss on your chap master to a much needed shield eternal. You do not want a model costing that many points that can be easily insta gibbed by st8.
You have a lot of nice firepower and until the speeders and vindi comes on your opponents AT is limited to shooting only marines which is good as it dilutes their impact.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/25 22:28:09
Subject: Re:1500 point Raven Guard competitive?
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Perfect Shot Ultramarine Predator Pilot
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How exactly do you outflank the Vindicator?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/25 22:49:44
Subject: 1500 point Raven Guard competitive?
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Prophetic Blood Angel Librarian
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Im guessing they get scout with raven guard CT? Don't have my dex on me so can't check if vehicles get it. Need to check that when i get back if no-one comments otherwise because that could be lethal!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/26 00:49:58
Subject: 1500 point Raven Guard competitive?
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Maniacal Gibbering Madboy
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Yea raven guard chapter tactics gives my entire primary detachment the scout USR except for bulky and very bulky models.
I wish it were legal to have the burning blade and shield eternal on my CM. I did a cool custom model like this and ran him like that before I really read the codex. My gaming group will still let me do it no problem but if I went to a tournament it would be a no go.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/26 01:00:28
Subject: 1500 point Raven Guard competitive?
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Long-Range Land Speeder Pilot
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The special rules given through Chapter Tactics only affect units with the Chapter Tactics special rule. (The exception being the Iron Hands Machine Empathy tactic) As such you cannot outflank with the vindicator.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/10/26 01:14:22
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/26 01:31:38
Subject: 1500 point Raven Guard competitive?
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Prophetic Blood Angel Librarian
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Why can you not have shield eternal and burning blade? As far as I remember you are only allowed one of each relic, there is no limit on the amount of relics a character can have. I may be wrong though, on holiday atm so cannot check.
And thanks for clearing that up stargasm!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/26 02:14:18
Subject: 1500 point Raven Guard competitive?
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Maniacal Gibbering Madboy
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Gotcha that sucks that I can't outflank my tanks :(
The CM entry says he can replace one weapon with a relic Not both...also I know army builder isn't always right but it's where I build my lists and that is how they interrperete the rule as well
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/26 17:48:12
Subject: Re:1500 point Raven Guard competitive?
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Steadfast Grey Hunter
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You replace the bolt pistol with shield eternal
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/27 04:36:21
Subject: 1500 point Raven Guard competitive?
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Maniacal Gibbering Madboy
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But you can only replace ONE weapon with a relic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/27 15:39:20
Subject: 1500 point Raven Guard competitive?
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Lead-Footed Trukkboy Driver
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Here's my idea of a competitive Ravenguard list:
210 Chaptermaster w/ Thunderhammer, Shield Eternal
225 (5) Assault w/ TH and SS
185 (5) Sternguard w/ 2 Meltaguns, Combi-melta Droppod
200 (10) Tactical Marines w/ Gravgun, Combi-Grav, Rhino
200 (10) Tactical Marines w/ Gravgun, Combi-Grav, Rhino
200 (10) Tactical Marines w/ Gravgun, Combi-Grav, Rhino
205 Stormraven w/ TL Lascannon, TL Multimelta, Extra armor
70 Aegis w/ Comms Relay
The Rhinos scout move behind the ADL at the middle of the board for a 3+ cover save first turn and a 4+ thereafter. The scout move means I can shoot 6" inches into the opponent's deployment zone first turn without moving; so I can get the full range and volume of fire with the Grav guns.
The Comms Relay doubles the chance of the Stormraven with the Terminators and the Chapter Master coming in when I need it to.
Combos = competitive.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/27 16:43:07
Subject: 1500 point Raven Guard competitive?
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Commoragh-bound Peer
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Yea no out flanking Vindicator it only will affect dedicated transports (excluding any terminator LRS) Also currently you can replace each weapon option with a relic until they Faq it, so you could use the Shield of Eternal but not going to knock you for not out of a sportsmanship stand point. but interesting list I can see it giving armies the scare
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/27 16:44:46
Subject: 1500 point Raven Guard competitive?
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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i think you should take off 2 tactical squads and add 2 assault squads and take off the vindicator and add a predator
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Blood Ravens, 1700pts
Empire 40 wounds
Astra Militarum 2250pts
Khorne 750pts
Space Wolves 1550pts
Orks 500pts
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