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Hey there everyone!! I was thinking of the following list and I 'm curious about how competitive it is/could be in your opinion :

Hq:
Coteaz (divination) 100

Elites:
Vindicare Assassin 145
Techmarine w/ Conversion Beamer 110 (He is here for his bolster defences..I think )
Paladin Squad (10x) : 4x Psycannons + 3x Hammers + 3x Swords + 3x Halberds + Apothecary + Bro Banner + Psybolt Ammo 750

Troops:
1st Henchmen Squad (12x) : 3x Plasma Cannon Servitors + 2x Jakaero + 7x Bolter Warrior Acolytes 165 (Coteaz joins them)
2nd Henchmen Squad (3x) : 3x Bolter Warrior Acolytes in a TL Lascannon Razorback 95
3rd Henchmen Squad (3x) : 3x Bolter Warrior Acolytes in a TL Lascannon Razorback 95

Heavy Support:
Dreadnought w/ 2x TL Autocannons + Psybolt Ammo 135
Dreadnought w/ 2x TL Autocannons + Psybolt Ammo 135

Now , the above Units come at 1730 points so... there are 270 points left .. That makes me think "Oh! I have Paladins in there , won't Drago be a good addition in there?" And surely it is but I was thinking that for 200 points I can include a lvl 3 Librarian with codex power (requires to pay something like 20 more points for 4 powers) or divination for Primaris + 2x Random powers every round .. And if I go the Divination road won't it be better to add an Ordo Malleus Inq who can bring Divination + his own psycannon for only 110 points instead ??

As I already told you before I want your opinions on this matter and if by going one way or another how competitive this list is / or can be ??

(Just for your info I 'm considering the Libi choice but maybe that's because of the converted miniature which looks damn good )

Yup, I'm gonna say it.

You should be taking Draigo.

The Henchmen squads are great, but by paying the 200ish point Draigo tax you now have the most durable scoring unit in the game.

I would also recommend taking a Librarian (with Draigo), as he can buff the Paladin unit greatly with his powers. Divination is a fantastic lore for this. It also gives the Paladins additional psychic defense.

Rather than a Conversion Beamer, why not give the Techmarine Rad/Psyko grenades and stick him with the Paladins? Yet another buff for you scoring unit of doom.

Obviously to pay for all these upgrades you would need to drop the Henchmen squads entirely, and add a single GKSS in a Razorback or a smaller Paladin unit.

If you don't want to go all-out on the Paladin Death Star then your list is alright as-is. Not enough scoring models imo, and the only place you can take points from is the Paladins.

I second adding draigo, considering your going pallys and investing a LOT in a single unit. Might as well have it score.

I also agree about using the techmarine as a grenade carrier for your deathstar, although putting him in the henchman gunline unit with a beamer is also nice. Either way, take blind grenades. They are a steal and very effective in either unit.

You can probably downgrade one of the lascannon razorbacks to a psyback(heavy bolter and psybolt ammo). The psyfleman dreads, jokero and vindicare can cover long ranged AT. Saves points for upgrades elsewhere.

3rding draigo - at 2k points you'll find that 3 troop choices (2 being very fragile) will lose you the game from a missions standpoint. Draigo added to the mix will give you a 4th very durable troop choice along with his epic tanking capabilities. With such a heavy paladin investment, draigo is just too good not to take.

Thanks all of you for your input !!

I know Draigo is the ultimate beast bringing not only tanking and durability to the Pallystar but also making them scoring + grand strategy .. I can't argue there so I probably take out a Warrior Acolyte from Coteaz's unit (as 6 of them still make a good meatshield for the heavy weapons) and include Draigo ..

On the other hand I still think that the Libby with lvl 3 mastery is really good as Prescience + 2x more powers (let's say the 3+ invu for the unit + the no cover ) would boost the Pally's Unit to no limits ..The tactics are that my opponent shoot everything to the Pallystar as it opposes a great threat or the Coteaz's Unit as it can do a lot of dmg and hopefully leave my other two smaller scoring units alone but maybe an experienced player won't do something like that. Also the Libby's powers are a bit random ..probably (still the mini is really cool )

I'll try running both of them and see what looks more strong and more fun to play with..
Thanks again everyone !!

Draigowing player here. What you'll find is that as much as you don't want to take Draigo, he's a meat shield that your Paladins need against S8/AP1-2. That said, he's not all that useful outside of general tankiness and grand strategy. On the upshot, you can break him off and watch him solo troop units.

The Librarian, as cool as he is, doesn't hold a candle to Coteaz. Coteaz is a L2 psyker who can also access divination. Then, good special rules plug a lot of holes in the Paladin list. He gets you cheap scoring and protects your Paladins against deep strikers. Plus, his "Spy Network" rule will troll opponents more often than you'd expect.

For HQs you absolutely NEED Draigo. Coteaz... You can somewhat do without, there are a few unique things the libby can do (precognition + warding stave = maximum overtroll)

Ok! So I arranged the two games that I 'll test my list and it 'll be against Blood Angels and Raven Guard this Friday ! Both of them are close friends so we will test the lists to different missions at 2k points

I'll try this 1st :

Hq:
Coteaz (divination) 100
Draigo 275

Elites:
Vindicare Assassin 145
Techmarine w/ Conversion Beamer 110 (He is here for his bolster defences)
Paladin Squad (10x) : 4x Psycannons + 3x Hammers + 3x Swords + 3x Halberds + Apothecary + Bro Banner + Psybolt Ammo 750 (Draigo here)

Troops:
1st Henchmen Squad (12x) : 3x Plasma Cannon Servitors + 2x Jakaero + 6x Bolter Warrior Acolytes 160 (Coteaz joins them)
2nd Henchmen Squad (3x) : 3x Bolter Warrior Acolytes in a TL Lascannon Razorback 95
3rd Henchmen Squad (3x) : 3x Bolter Warrior Acolytes in a TL Lascannon Razorback 95

Heavy Support:
Dreadnought w/ 2x TL Autocannons + Psybolt Ammo 135
Dreadnought w/ 2x TL Autocannons + Psybolt Ammo 135


And this at the other game:

Hq:
Coteaz (divination) 100
Librarian w/ lvl 3 mastery (divination) + Sword and Stormbolter 200

Elites:
Vindicare Assassin 145
Techmarine w/ Conversion Beamer 110 (He is here for his bolster defences)
Paladin Squad (10x) : 4x Psycannons + 3x Hammers + 3x Swords + 3x Halberds + Apothecary + Bro Banner 730 (Libbi here)

Troops:
1st Henchmen Squad (12x) : 3x Plasma Cannon Servitors + 2x Jakaero + 6x Bolter Warrior Acolytes 160 (Coteaz joins them)
2nd Henchmen Squad (3x) : 3x Bolter Warrior Acolytes in a TL Lascannon Razorback 95
3rd Henchmen Squad (3x) : 3x Bolter Warrior Acolytes in a TL Lascannon Razorback 95
4th Henchmen Squad (3x) : 3x Bolter Warrior Acolytes in a TL Lascannon Razorback 95

Heavy Support:
Dreadnought w/ 2x TL Autocannons + Psybolt Ammo 135
Dreadnought w/ 2x TL Autocannons + Psybolt Ammo 135

I'll inform you how it went in the weekend . Thanks again for your suggestions

Trust me: Try taking Grenades for the Techmarine and putting him with the Paladins. You will not be disappointed.