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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/28 23:53:55
Subject: Nazdreg Ug Urdgrub rules
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Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
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I've always been gutted that he never made the cut (and tbh I prefer him so much more to Ghaz), after looking through a lot of proposed rules online, I thought i'd take some ideas from a few people, and combine them with what I think would work. And one of my current opponents is always open for us to create statlines for home-brew and dropped characters. What are peoples opinions on this? Nazdreg Ug Urdgrub, Bad Moon Warlord: 225 points. Nazdreg WS5 BS2 S5 T5 W4 I4 A4 Ld9 Sv2+ Wargear: Mega armour, Bosspole, Cybork Body, Kustom Mega Blasta-X Special Rules: Independent Character Furious Charge Mob Rule Waaagh! Kunnin plans Dat Nazdreg 'ad is Mekboyz to invent 'is tellyporta One unit accompanied by Nazdreg may be kept in reserve and enter via deep strike Kustom Mega Blasta-X 24" S:2D6, ap2, heavy 1 Da shiniest of ammo 24" S10 AP1 heavy 1, melta, gets hot. One shot only. Bad moon warboss Nazdreg allows one meganobz or a flash gitz mob to be taken as a troops choice Practiz iz´ purfect At the start of each shooting phase, Nazdreg may opt to make a leadership test. If successful, Nazdreg counts as being BS 3 for this phase. If unsuccessful, Nazdreg counts as being BS 1 for this phase. This also affects any unit that Nazdreg is attached to.
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2013/10/29 12:53:17
You're rich! You're flashy! You 'ave a proppa Orky stoutness about your belly! And you've got more big, shooty, and dead 'ard gear than any 2 other Orks put together. Da uvver clans orta make way for da Bad Moons!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/29 00:23:38
Subject: Nazdreg Ug Urdgrub rules
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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So what happens on a roll of 11 or 12 for the Strength of the Kustom Mega Blasta-X, as Strength caps out at 10.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/29 00:39:10
Subject: Nazdreg Ug Urdgrub rules
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Happyjew wrote:So what happens on a roll of 11 or 12 for the Strength of the Kustom Mega Blasta-X, as Strength caps out at 10.
He'll suffer a saveable wound, shot will count as S10
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You're rich! You're flashy! You 'ave a proppa Orky stoutness about your belly! And you've got more big, shooty, and dead 'ard gear than any 2 other Orks put together. Da uvver clans orta make way for da Bad Moons!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/29 00:48:12
Subject: Nazdreg Ug Urdgrub rules
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Disguised Speculo
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BS 3
Can dig the rest but not this bit
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/29 00:52:52
Subject: Nazdreg Ug Urdgrub rules
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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I've no idea how to price units, so I will not touch the point cost.
Nazdreg WS5 BS3 S5 T5 W4 I4 A4 Ld9 Sv2+
Standard Warboss statline (except the BS3 obviously) and the extra wound that named characters always have.
Special Rules:
Independent Character
Furious Charge
Mob Rule
Waaagh!
Standard Ork rules. Nothing special.
Da Biggest Bad Moon
An army containing Nazdreg may take an additional heavy support option, but is restricted to one less fast attack option.
I would change this to "If Nazdreg is your Warlord, the detachment he is taken in, may opt to swap a single Fast Attack slot for a heavy Support slot (allowing for 4 HS and 2 FA).
Kunnin plans
Dat Nazdreg 'ad is Mekboyz to invent 'is tellyporta
One unit accompanied by Nazdreg may be kept in reserve and enter via deep strike
Gives a single unit DS. I don't think that is too messed up.
Kustom Mega Blasta-X
24" S:2D6, ap2, heavy 1
Already addressed the Strength issue, and you commented on it.
Da shiniest of ammo
24" S10 AP1 heavy 1, melta, gets hot. One shot only.
I don't think a melta weapon needs S10, however it is One Shot so...
Bad moon warboss
Nazdreg allows one meganobz or a flash gitz mob to be taken as a troops choice
Slight change to the normal unit movement.
Practiz iz´ purfect
Some Flash Gitz that are in Nazdregs army are better at shooting than normal Flash Gitz
Flash Gitz in nazdregs army may be upgraded to BS 3 for 3 point per Flash Git
I would limit this to one unit only.
But then again I'm not that familiar with Orks, so I don't know how broken this may be.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/29 01:18:29
Subject: Nazdreg Ug Urdgrub rules
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Glorious Lord of Chaos
The burning pits of Hades, also known as Sweden in summer
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Orks at BS3 just won't work.
It is not their style. It would be like SM in flak armour.
But otherwise, yes, seems good.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/29 01:29:11
Subject: Nazdreg Ug Urdgrub rules
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Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
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Happyjew wrote: randomtoaster wrote:Practiz iz´ purfect
Some Flash Gitz that are in Nazdregs army are better at shooting than normal Flash Gitz
Flash Gitz in nazdregs army may be upgraded to BS 3 for 3 point per Flash Git
I would limit this to one unit only.
But then again I'm not that familiar with Orks, so I don't know how broken this may be.
Yeah I was thinking of just giving the upgrade to one unit, but I wanted to hear feedback from the dakka community before I committed it to just one unit.
BrotherHaraldus wrote:Orks at BS3 just won't work.
It is not their style. It would be like SM in flak armour.
But otherwise, yes, seems good.
Yeah I wasn't too sure with his BS as he is an Ork after all, but being a Bad Moon he would have all his Doks and Meks sort him out with something special to give him that edge over his greenskin counterparts.
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You're rich! You're flashy! You 'ave a proppa Orky stoutness about your belly! And you've got more big, shooty, and dead 'ard gear than any 2 other Orks put together. Da uvver clans orta make way for da Bad Moons!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/29 01:34:41
Subject: Nazdreg Ug Urdgrub rules
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randomtoaster wrote: Happyjew wrote: randomtoaster wrote:Practiz iz´ purfect
Some Flash Gitz that are in Nazdregs army are better at shooting than normal Flash Gitz
Flash Gitz in nazdregs army may be upgraded to BS 3 for 3 point per Flash Git
I would limit this to one unit only.
But then again I'm not that familiar with Orks, so I don't know how broken this may be.
Yeah I was thinking of just giving the upgrade to one unit, but I wanted to hear feedback from the dakka community before I committed it to just one unit.
BrotherHaraldus wrote:Orks at BS3 just won't work.
It is not their style. It would be like SM in flak armour.
But otherwise, yes, seems good.
Yeah I wasn't too sure with his BS as he is an Ork after all, but being a Bad Moon he would have all his Doks and Meks sort him out with something special to give him that edge over his greenskin counterparts.
None of you mentioned how Nazdreg was an expert shot with his gun of his. I have his original rules, and I think that justifies the BS3.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/29 01:39:06
Subject: Nazdreg Ug Urdgrub rules
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Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
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Begel Dverl wrote:
None of you mentioned how Nazdreg was an expert shot with his gun of his. I have his original rules, and I think that justifies the BS3.
Before writing this I tried looking for the rules for him from 3rd ed. but all I could find was a french version online, and unfortunately I don't speak French :(
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You're rich! You're flashy! You 'ave a proppa Orky stoutness about your belly! And you've got more big, shooty, and dead 'ard gear than any 2 other Orks put together. Da uvver clans orta make way for da Bad Moons!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/29 02:48:23
Subject: Nazdreg Ug Urdgrub rules
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Glorious Lord of Chaos
The burning pits of Hades, also known as Sweden in summer
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Give it twin-linked instead. The actual effect is similar and it is far fluffier.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/29 09:53:47
Subject: Nazdreg Ug Urdgrub rules
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Nazdreg has always been described as an expert shot by ork standards, so I think that BS 3 for him is fine. That's the same as a Dakkajet Flyboss, right? Wouldn't let him upgrade another unit to BS 3 though. Maybe allow a unit he joins to re-roll To Hit rolls of 1 or something? Or give a unit of Flash Gits who have bought all three upgrade options some kind of bonus (twin-linked, maybe)... that's an inefficient build, so I don't think you would need to charge extra points for a modest buff.
I think that your rules mess with the FOC a little too much. Most special characters let you move one unit around at most and exchanging Fast Attack slots for Heavy Support isn't something you really see anymore since 3rd Ed. Iron Warriors demonstrated how abusable it can be. Simply giving Flash Gits as troops seems good enough to me.
Otherwise seems fine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/29 10:16:03
Subject: Nazdreg Ug Urdgrub rules
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"Practiz iz´ purfect"
At the start of each shooting phase, Nazdreg may opt to make a leadership test. If successful, Nazdreg counts as being BS 3 for this phase. If unsuccessful, Nazdreg counts as being BS 1 for this phase.
May or may not apply to a unit of Flash Gits that Nazzy is leading
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/29 12:44:59
Subject: Nazdreg Ug Urdgrub rules
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Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
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Perfect Organism wrote:
I think that your rules mess with the FOC a little too much. Most special characters let you move one unit around at most and exchanging Fast Attack slots for Heavy Support isn't something you really see anymore since 3rd Ed. Iron Warriors demonstrated how abusable it can be. Simply giving Flash Gits as troops seems good enough to me.
Otherwise seems fine.
That's true, the potential to have 5 HS choices in a list would be broke, Flash Gitz as troops and 4 BWs could just ruin anyones day.
Dakkamite wrote:"Practiz iz´ purfect"
At the start of each shooting phase, Nazdreg may opt to make a leadership test. If successful, Nazdreg counts as being BS 3 for this phase. If unsuccessful, Nazdreg counts as being BS 1 for this phase.
May or may not apply to a unit of Flash Gits that Nazzy is leading
I like this, this would actually work better.
Thanks for the C&C so far!
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You're rich! You're flashy! You 'ave a proppa Orky stoutness about your belly! And you've got more big, shooty, and dead 'ard gear than any 2 other Orks put together. Da uvver clans orta make way for da Bad Moons!
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