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HQ
Warboss = 155
>Attack Squig
>Bosspole
>Cybork Body
>Warbike
>PK
>WARLORD

Old Zogwort = 145


ELITE
10x Lootas = 150

10x Lootas = 150


TROOPS
10x NOB Bikers = 660
>Painboy
>Cybork Bodies
>4x PK
>5x Big Choppa
>Grot Orderly

30x Boyz = 220
>1x Nob
>Bosspole
>PK

30x Boyz = 220
>1x Nob
>Bosspole
>PK


FASTATTACK
5x Deffkoptas
5x TL Rokkit Launcha
3x fBuzzsaw


So tell me what you think

I absolutely love this list! But, there is a question here; is this friendly or competitive? If it is competitive (for a tournament, for example), drop Old Zogwort and take a Big Mek with a KFF and other goodies if you feel like it, or a Weirdboy Warphead if you want the psychic randomness that is Orks! Zogwort is BS 0, so he won't be able to shoot half of his psychic powers, including his special. But, if this is a friendly game, and your opponent agrees to it, by all means, have Old Zogwort be BS 1 or even the standard Orky 2 if he/she is feeling really generous.

IMO i would swap old zogwart for another 10 man....ork squad of lootas for more dakka and have the deffcopters in bigger units for the rokkets because they dont hit as well as shootas.

otherwise a very fun list with alot of dakka!

buzzsaws are kinda poop nowadays. but that's all pref.
old zog could be used for something more useful. squads of 7 or 9 mans are the best but that's also pref IMO. and 4pks is a little overkill on some stuff. i say 2pks and the boss or 1pk and the boss. doing this leaves you with say 200pts to throw around for more useful units.

So what im getting is that for the most part old Zogwort is really a waste of pts. at least for the most part.
but other then the overkill of PK's not a bad list

th0r_is_g0d@yahoo.com wrote:
So what im getting is that for the most part old Zogwort is really a waste of pts. at least for the most part.
but other then the overkill of PK's not a bad list

You are correct. Im competitive over fluff. So if you were going for old zog as a fun deal than thats up too you!

Aye its not a bad list i would only make two changes
Swap old Zog for another Warboss on a bike and split the Nob bikers into two groups of 5 ..1Pk, 3 BC, PB, WB (each)
I would also split the foot sloggers into 3 groups of 20 .
and now you have 3 objective campers and two death stars
oh yea and the Buzzsaws are really over priced big choppas now for their effect..Big Bombs are more fun ..

Okay so I looked into everything everyone said and I made a few Changes to kind of go with what I was looking for

Warboss / Warlord = 155
Warbike
PK
CB
Attack Squid
Bosspole

Warboss = 155
Warbike
PK
CB
Attack Squid
Bosspole

Lootas x 10 = 150

Lootas x 10 = 150

5x Nob Bikers as Troops = 390
1x Painboy (so 6 total)
2x PK
3x BC
Grot Orderly

5x Nob Bikers as Troops = 390
1x Painboy (so 6 total)
2x PK
3x BC
Grot Orderly

20x Boys = 176
2x Big Shootas
1x Nob (so 21 total)
PK
Bosspole

20x Boys = 176
2x Big Shootas
1x Nob (so 21 total)
PK
Bosspole

20x Boys = 171
1x Nob (so 21 total)
PK
Bosspole
HeavyArmor (Just cause)

Big Gun Kannon = 29
3x Extra crew

Big Gun Kannon = 29
3x Extra crew

Big Gun Kannon = 29
3x Extra crew

I figured the kannons would help cause confusion while the deathstars creams the guy and the boyz hold ground
For a total of 2000pts and 107 models

I think you have as solid a list as one could want..

I'm not sure two units of Nob bikers are needed, but I'm hardly an expert in using them.

Kannons have HUGE leadership issues. I recommend Lobbas because they can hide and so never have to take morale tests. Might be worth grabbing that Runtherd for them if you stick with Kannons though

Nobs, especially PK nobs, aren't really all that great in boys blobs. Better to just buy more boys in my opinion.

Lootas generally better in more squads of less dudes - 7/7/6 vs 10/10 would be more effective due to more reliable shots and being able to split your fire.

Overall though, solid list, could become "tourney tier" solid, at least as close to that as Orks get, with a few changes.

well ima keep tweakin it I may try my hand in the little hometown tourni next weekend ill let you know how we do Thanks all for the input

2 war bosses on bikes

45 lootas

~130 boyz, 4 squads of 30, one of ten, nobs with Claws, bp in these, all shoota boyz

This is my ultra competitive list, haven't lost with it yet, idk if this is what you want but here it is

So the list I've been posting was an epic fail. But that's whatever I have been updating and found something that seems to be working.

Warboss 155
Warbike
PK
BP
CB
Attack Squig

Biker Nobs 495
6x Nobs
1x Painboy
3x PK
Bosspole
Waaagh Banner
3x Big Choppas
CB's

8x Lootas 120

27x Shoota Boyz 235
2x Big Shoota Boyz
1x Nob
PK
BP
'Eavy Armour

27x Shoota Boyz 235
2x Big Shoota Boyz
1x Nob
PK
BP
'Eavy Armour

27x Shoota Boyz 235
2x Big Shoota Boyz
1x Nob
PK
BP
'Eavy Armour

10 Gretchin 40
Runthed

Aegis Defense Line 100
Quad-Gun

Looted Wagon 125
Boomgun
2x Bigshoota
Ard Case

Dakkajet 135
3x Supashoota
Red Paint
Flyboss

1875pt outta 2000

where do I spend the other points im torn between a 2nd Looted Wagon and a squad of Lootas

I'm guessing you felt it was an epic fail due to lack of fliers. Bring along 2-3 Dakkajets or Flakka Trucks (from apoc 2). I say dakka jets over ADL but whatever works for you. And don't sacrifice your lootas. Lootas are the scary unit all your opponents want to kill early.

I'm personally not a fan of big shootas. I feel their wasted on boyz, bc if you're not in 18 inch range then you should be running, not sitting back so you can take a few shots.

Looted wagon isn't really a competitive choice, more of a fun one.

I believe it was a epic fail cause I was wiped off the table 10 times in a row by 10 different armys
but that's the past ne who I don't wanna get rid of my lootas I am thinking of adding more
and as for the big shootas I may drop them too get more pts to spend of more lootas

I guess Im just trying to figure if I should add more lootas or another wagon

I don't mean to echo Dakkamite but I will add the point about lootas if you have the Elite slots available. Go 5 and 5 instead of 8 or 9 and 9 if you want more dakka and have points. It makes the shooting more consistent. You can also gain advantages in good shooting like popping a transport with one group and shooting the models inside with the other or even popping two transports.

I don't remember the loadout options on the Looted Wagon off the top of my head but if you can get bye with just one or zero big shootas you might as well. Yes it's nice if they roll a pen result to have an extra weapon for weapon destroyed results but it's paying for a minimal defensive upgrade imo.

The last list you posted looks like what I'm sure the internet would consider a nicer list.

EDIT; I would look at other heavy support options besides the looted wagon. The boomgun has a very specific niche roll of firing at a horde T4 models that have FnP or multiple wounds and a 3+ Armor save. Any other situation there almost has to be a better weapon. If you just wanted a template for hordes you might consider more lootas or another dakkajet because that might be more reliable.. If you want them for doubling out T4 models then you might consider Kannonz, if you don't like the Kannons tendancy to run or are stuck on the idea of having a vehicle then maybe consider some Kanz with Rokkit Launchas. My advice may not be the best on this last point it's just me thinking out loud.

th0r_is_g0d@yahoo.com wrote:
So the list I've been posting was an epic fail. But that's whatever I have been updating and found something that seems to be working.

Did the 10 nob bikers not fare well? I wanted to build an 1850 list around 10nob bikers ... but now I am scared.

Also the Deffkoptas in a group of 5? How was that for you? Thanks.

Deffkoptas in large groups are good in small groups not so much

I did double 9 on the Lootas had to do some (by some I mean a lot) kustom work ill post pics later

all my boyz are now Shoota boyz

NOB bikes do great just remember everyone know that so they will try to kill it first

the only real reason im running the Looted wagon is to add a little fun to the list and money being a little tight these day not really wanting to drop another fifty on Lootas if I could I would in a heart beat

Ran the list MASSACRED drop pod blood ravens at 2000pts

I always find old zogwort fun to use, especially when you turn an enemy character like mephiston into a squig. Also you should always play deffkoptas in as small squads as possible. Say you want a squad of 5 koptas. It is better to have 2 squads of 2 and a squad of 1 and move them and shoot them as if they're a squad because this means that if assaulted then only 1 or 2 are held up instead of 5. Also there might be a rhino on 1 hull point and another on 2. instead of concentrating the fire of 5 koptas on one of the rhinos wouldn't it make more sense to fire with 3 on one rhino and 2 on the other?

i agree with you on that smaller units are easier to control in that sence but at the same time the min you lose on leadership check run off the table

Well not too bad came in last out of 8 with 12 outta 99 possible points
Tau
Space Marines Raven Guard
Chaos with Necron
Chaos with Deamons
Dark Eldar
Dark Angels
Imperial Guard
Orks

that was the over all

But not too bad I guess lol