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Hey Dakka,

I want to purchase a Khorne Warband post-christmas, and though I don't usually play the game, I figured I'd jot up a list so I could use it to play some games. It's not supposed to be competitive, but I'd rather not lose every game I play

*EDIT* Sorry for the below, I didn't realise it was a violation of the rules. Won't happen again!
Please don't post points costs for specific upgrades and wargear. Thanks ~ The Staff

Here is my revised list (most recent version, removed below):

HQ

Chaos Lord - 150pts
• Terminator Armour
• Axe of Blind Fury
• Mark of Khorne

Elites

5 Terminators – 246pts
• 2 Force axes
• 2 Chain Fists
• Reaper Autocannon
• Mark of Khorne
• Icon of Wrath

Helbrute – 130pts
• Additional Powerfist
• Heavy Flamer

Troops

15 Khorne Berserkers – 325pts
• Icon of Wrath
• Vets of the Long War

15 Khorne Berserkers – 325pts
• Icon of Wrath
• Vets of the Long War

Fast Attack

5 Raptors – 165pts
• 2x Melta
• Champion w/Meltabombs+Powerfist
• MoK
• Vets of the Long War

5 Raptors – 165pts
• 2x Melta
• Champion w/Meltabombs+Powerfist
• MoK
• Vets of the Long War

I'm not sure what you want from us. You know its not a competitive list, do you want us to help you make a list that can work within the theme? We can do that. For example you should drop the Helbrute, it doesn't help anyone. Then by dropping both berserker units down to 15 you could buy yourself a Land Raider (The Blood Buggy, how Khorn-y is that!) for Kharn and his buddies to chill in. That also gives you some passable anti tank in the twin linked las cannons. Any spare points should go into giving the unit champions the likes of boons of mutation (*Fun) and maybe throw a few power weapons into Kharns chosen.

Alex

 ALEXisAWESOME wrote:
I'm not sure what you want from us. You know its not a competitive list, do you want us to help you make a list that can work within the theme? We can do that. For example you should drop the Helbrute, it doesn't help anyone. Then by dropping both berserker units down to 15 you could buy yourself a Land Raider (The Blood Buggy, how Khorn-y is that!) for Kharn and his buddies to chill in. That also gives you some passable anti tank in the twin linked las cannons. Any spare points should go into giving the unit champions the likes of boons of mutation (*Fun) and maybe throw a few power weapons into Kharns chosen.

Alex

That's exactly the sort of thing I'm after, thanks!

I included the Helbrute because I really like the FW World Eaters dread, in all honesty The Land raider would be cool though! And lord knows I'm lacking anti-tank Is there another way I could squeeze some Anti-tank in without losing the brute?

Cmon man. You gotta have a Khorne Lord on Juggernaut with AoBF. He is the true embodiment of Khorne and a CC beast that will put Kharne to shame. Put him with some spawn and get his majority toughness to 6. I like to imagine his retinue of spawn are the failed champions that tried to supplant him.

Well it would have to be long range AT, due to the need to knock people out of transports otherwise the Berserkers would never catch them. The most useful AT on demand chaos have access to I didn't see a very khorn-y, such as a 3 termie meltaside squad, or obliterators or a tri-las pred. Would you be overly against dropping berserkers down to ten man squads in Rhinos? Then you'd be saving 440 pts, which is more then enough to get you a land raider for Kharn, keep the Helbrute and even give you the choice to upgrade the Chosen to Khornate Terminators (They come with power weapons base, a good ranged weapon and 2 attacks. Add rage and that's 4 power weapon strength 5 attacks...awesome).

Or heck, if you still want to do a horde of 3+ armour saved butchers, why not just go for normal marines with 2 CC weps with mark of Khorne, they still have more then enough attacks to shred lots of units and only miss out on Ws 5. Your choice really. Or, if you have the urge, you could swap out Kharn and his buddies out for a Khorn Lord on a bike/Juggernaut with Axe in a unit of 3 khorne spawn (it even rhymes!) to go charging up, drawing all the fire away from the Beserkers as well as being a lot cheaper and just as killy.

Alex.

@Dreadnova. Why majority toughness 6? Spawn are T5 base (T6 with Nurgle) and so is the Lord when he is mounted. He can't even join a Nurgle spawn unit due to Mark restrictions. Admittedly he is just as killy as Kharn, while being faster, but he is less fun!

Dropping bezerkers is a way of squeezing in havocs perhaps. Or the chosen, they are pointless in this list. You might as well take a standard CSM squad with the same upgrades. It's a little cheaper.

Hate to be "The one" but if you keep the list like that, then you will probably get tabled 9/10 times.

Whoever kharn joins doesn't need VotLW, as he is leadership 10. You could save some points there - but in all honestly the hellbrute will last 1-2 turns, if it's lucky, then they only have to worry about foot slogging marines with short range pistols. Most armies will laugh at this. I know it's not supposed to be a competitive list, so feel free to tell me to shut up! But the hellbrutes really are terrible!

Anyways, if you are determined not to be too concerned with winning, and determined to keep the brute, then this is what I would do...

Drop all the chosen - they don't fit fluff and are over pointed.
Drop 4-5 zerkers from each squad, plonk kharn in one of the zerker units.

With points saved purchase a squad of 5 termies, will last much longer than chosen and can take an auto cannon and chain fists and melta's so they're a tough as hell unit. You should have enough points left for a Maulerfiend! A close combat hero in my opinion, and fits a Khorne list!

The bonus to all of the above, is that with the exception of the fiend, it all has world eaters upgrades on forge world! And they're all pretty! And you get to keep the hell brute.

In summary -
Kharn,
2 x 15 zerkers with all your upgrades (forge world world eaters bits)
5 x terminators with upgrades (forge world bits)
Hell brute (forge world model)
Maulerfiend.

Let me know what you think!


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Oh, and please don't get rhinos for the zerkers! Absolutely ridiculous idea! Easy first blood for your opponent, they then have to get out and walk. Also, if you get out of a rhino, you cannot charge until the turn after. Pointless transport for anything khornate!

Really appreciate all this advice guys!

Sorry, but I am determined to keep the Helbrute, I love the FW model to bits

So the general consensus is to drop the Chosen (which were included as I would have 8 excess Berzerkers ), which is totally doable. Khornate Terminators sounds like a plan, what would be the best (and Khorniest ) way to equip them?

A Land Raider for Kharn & friends sounds awesome, but if the 'zerkers are on foot won't that cause issues? I don't know, please correct me in my noobish ways

Power axes are quite khornate, arguably flamers fit the theme with kharn. Perhaps a heavy flamer. I'd take an auto cannon. Not particularly khorn like, but an awesome weapon. To stay fluffy, I'd go 2 x axes, 2 x chain fists (AT) a heavy flamer, and a mace on the champion. You could take the black mace artefact - it is amazing! Read it and weap. Either that or the axe of blind fury. If you add in 5 termies, I wouldn't even think about a land raider, as no one can get in it. It has a max capacity of 10, and termies count as 2! It needs to be a full transport or full footslogger. Be prepared to run in the first turn and not shoot! My 2 K khorn list has 2 squads of 8 zerkers, and a land raider for each. It's expensive, and is a lot less troops, but it tends to mean that more are delivered safely! When I footslog 10, 4-5 get there. When I raider 8, 7-8 get into combat. Another option is to purchase rhinos, but not for the purpose of transport - instead to block line of sight and carry dirge casters to stop over watch - be prepared to ALWAYS lose first blood though. In your list I'd still think about a maulerfiend with magma cutters.


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Another amazing use of points is a winged daemon prince of khorn with the black mace....it makes almost everything cry!

Okay, I've revised my list, based partly on your advice whilst keeping the things I like model-wise/can afford.

Please don't post points costs for specific upgrades and wargear. Thanks ~ The Staff

I really want to fight this list with my blood angels list... hehe

So you can tear me to shreds?

no, because I like seeing to fluffy lists battle haha

 raiden wrote:
no, because I like seeing to fluffy lists battle haha

Ahahah, I see! Well if you're ever this side of the pond give me a shout

Any input anyone?