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Hello question for a friend.

Me and him were talking 40k at work and he is trying to build a different chaos list. He saw the chaos drop pod and we are now curious if you could pit a forge fiend or mauler fiend in a chaos drop pod. I know it says 1 dreadnought but chaos has no more dreadnoughts only hellbrutes. I know hell brutes are the closest thing but curious.

A forge fiend in a pod would be evil with the 3 ectoplasma cannons...

ATM, I don't believe FW produce a chaos drop pod though. And since it doesn't specifically state a fiend can go in one, I don't think people will agree to that.

Needs sorting out atm

Chaos don't have drop pods, only dreadclaws, see IA Aeronautica

Dreadclaws are the precursor to drop pods. Used for space battle boarding actions and can even land and take off from the ground.

Though not the rules nothing stops your friend from using drop pods and even putting a forgefiend in it for a friendly game. Its easy enough to just buy it at its base cost and use chaos vehicle upgrades.

But if hes after a 100% legit version the Dreadclaw is as close as he will get. Though he may want to consider a Storm Eagle or something if he's after a transport for his forgefiend, not sure of the capacity for it or if its possible however.

The dreadclaw isn't available from FW atm.

The Storm eagle can carry 20 men - it doesn't say anything about larger models so I'd assume it couldn't carry a fiend.

If you look at the stat line its close minus BS and I are better on hell brute. Only big difference is the size, but a dreadnaught can't fit in a standard drop pod.

Erm, I think you will find dreadnoughts fit just fine in standard drop pods.

When I played marines it did not fit. And if they did make standard drop pods to fit dreads. Why would they have a FW one that is wider then a standard drop pod?

the FW one fits a dreadnought on its base, the regular one doesn't. Dreadnoughts without base are pretty close to properly fit a normal pod. Also comparing a transport to what it's supposed t be able to carry in 40 k is pointless.

In this month's issue of White Dwarf, there is a preview of the legion assault claw (on page 149). It looks like it's bigger than a standard drop pod, almost the size of a necron monolith. Looks very much like an improved dreadclaw and it could probably fit a forgefiend.

There was a discussion about dreadclaws a while back (I can't remember where) that discussed dreadclaws were discontinued and what was going to replace them. I think this is the answer.

I had a couple dreadclaws at one point and traded them because the rules had become too cumbersome. They took up a FA slot, they could not actually land the turn they arrived, and they were not tough enough to survive a couple rounds of shooting.

If this is the replacement, I only hope the rules are done better this time. Could see a whole lot of CSM players buying them up.

That is epic I will loom out for it.

 techsoldaten wrote:

I had a couple dreadclaws at one point and traded them because the rules had become too cumbersome. They took up a FA slot, they could not actually land the turn they arrived, and they were not tough enough to survive a couple rounds of shooting.

Was you playign with the IA 4 rules or something?

Actual Dc's rules from IA Aeronautica are good, only downfall is that there is no turn one landing like Mareens and they take a FA slot, the reste they are far more superior to Pods, Its a Flyer for starters, so it means that when coming in DS, you can make it fly in Flyer mode, so the ennemy needs 6's to hit it, and you get a 5+ Jink save, in the Shooting phase of the same turn you can move an extra 24", because its a Flyer and you can Zoom in.

Its an assault Av12 vehicle with Frag launchers, so anything coming out of it and assaulting counts has having assault grenades, and you get an extra 2" when deploying, because its the specific rule of the Dreadclaw, so you get a 8" move when disembarking...

It has more good things then bad, even though the 3 only Flaws of this are still some what consequent, 85pts, FA slot, and no turn 1 deployement.

It can fit an entire squad of anything thats in the dex(Termis, Spawns, Possesed, Mutis, Zerkers...) and 1 Dreadnought(Helbrute)

That sounds close to the rules I was playing under 5th edition.

The DCs would arrive, say, on turn 4, take another turn to deploy their troops, and the game would end on turn 6. They would get shot up while they were in the air, which was different in 5th edition, I think all the passengers just died. There was something else that was really hard for me about using them, I just can't remember what.

Cool models tho. Bottom line is I was having a better time moving up the board in Rhinos. My berzerkers did better that way.

Well if you last played them in 5th, then its not those rules you used, since the IA Aeronautica is a 6th Ed book.

And between the weird Flyer rules of FW for 5Th Ed and what is possible in 6th, there is a difference.