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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/15 17:42:25
Subject: Deathstrike missile and multi-level ruins, plus firing question
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
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So I'll just get right to it.
The IG Deathstrike missile has rules that state that all models within range of the impact point are hit (range being d3+3)
The missile has the blast rule, but that is where the asterix is, were this passage comes into play
Assuming the missile hits a vehicle that is next to a ruin, would models on the 2nd floor of the ruin be in range of the weapon?
My confusion comes from the fact that the "blast* " denoation seems to indicate these are specific rules that overrule multi-level targeting from the BRB.
I am quite aware the weapon is barrage, so it can only hit the upper levels of ruins if fired in that manner.
Also, when rolling to see if the missile can be fired every turn after turn 1, does this count as firing the weapon?
Thanks!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/15 17:49:02
Subject: Deathstrike missile and multi-level ruins, plus firing question
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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juraigamer wrote:So I'll just get right to it.
The IG Deathstrike missile has rules that state that all models within range of the impact point are hit (range being d3+3)
The missile has the blast rule, but that is where the asterix is, were this passage comes into play
Assuming the missile hits a vehicle that is next to a ruin, would models on the 2nd floor of the ruin be in range of the weapon?
My confusion comes from the fact that the "blast* " denoation seems to indicate these are specific rules that overrule multi-level targeting from the BRB.
I am quite aware the weapon is barrage, so it can only hit the upper levels of ruins if fired in that manner.
Also, when rolling to see if the missile can be fired every turn after turn 1, does this count as firing the weapon?
Thanks!
It would seem that the levels of ruins are still in effect. I don't see anything that negates it.
So I guess you could shoot Level Two and affect multiple ruins at once with such a blast?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/15 17:49:58
Subject: Deathstrike missile and multi-level ruins, plus firing question
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Kelne
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Nothing changes the fact that blasts are "2 dimensionnal" in this game , only hitting a level.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/15 22:31:49
Subject: Deathstrike missile and multi-level ruins, plus firing question
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Dakka Veteran
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Deathstrike's specific rules override the normal rules. Everything within the rolled range will generate hits, regardless of the normal rules.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/16 04:16:56
Subject: Deathstrike missile and multi-level ruins, plus firing question
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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot
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Pyrian wrote:Deathstrike's specific rules override the normal rules. Everything within the rolled range will generate hits, regardless of the normal rules.
Nope, I wish it weren't so, but the Deathstrike Missile rules specifically say it has the Blast and Ordnance Barrage USRs, and have to follow those rules too. It's really good for clearing parking lots and gun lines though. Put 3 on a Skyshield Pad for kicks
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/17 03:48:43
Subject: Deathstrike missile and multi-level ruins, plus firing question
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Dakka Veteran
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Lord Krungharr wrote:Nope, I wish it weren't so, but the Deathstrike Missile rules specifically say it has the Blast and Ordnance Barrage USRs, and have to follow those rules too.
Oh, so it places a small marker and hits models under that marker? No. It hits what it says it hits.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/17 03:56:42
Subject: Deathstrike missile and multi-level ruins, plus firing question
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Pyrian wrote: Lord Krungharr wrote:Nope, I wish it weren't so, but the Deathstrike Missile rules specifically say it has the Blast and Ordnance Barrage USRs, and have to follow those rules too.
Oh, so it places a small marker and hits models under that marker? No. It hits what it says it hits.
It says its a d3+3 Blast. Blasts can only hit one level of a ruin.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/17 04:36:52
Subject: Deathstrike missile and multi-level ruins, plus firing question
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Auspicious Daemonic Herald
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Fragile wrote:Pyrian wrote: Lord Krungharr wrote:Nope, I wish it weren't so, but the Deathstrike Missile rules specifically say it has the Blast and Ordnance Barrage USRs, and have to follow those rules too.
Oh, so it places a small marker and hits models under that marker? No. It hits what it says it hits.
It says its a d3+3 Blast. Blasts can only hit one level of a ruin.
it has an apostrophe foot note that says everything with in d3+3" of the center is hit
codex overrides BRB
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/17 05:39:10
Subject: Deathstrike missile and multi-level ruins, plus firing question
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Only where there is a conflict. There is no permission for this Blast to affect more than 1 level, hence no conflict.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/17 15:13:29
Subject: Deathstrike missile and multi-level ruins, plus firing question
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
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It's not Blast though, it's Blast*
Blast* isn't in the BRB right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/17 15:23:08
Subject: Deathstrike missile and multi-level ruins, plus firing question
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Pg 414 of the BRB. Ordnance1, Barrage, d3+3 Blast, One use only*
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/17 17:20:50
Subject: Deathstrike missile and multi-level ruins, plus firing question
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
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You might wanna read the codex then.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/17 17:32:00
Subject: Deathstrike missile and multi-level ruins, plus firing question
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The BRB reference brings most weapons up to 6th, however there is no difference between the Codex and the BRB in this case. Again, the rules for Blasts and Ruins are clear. Nothing in the weapon rules says that it is allowed to affect multiple levels.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/17 17:37:15
Subject: Deathstrike missile and multi-level ruins, plus firing question
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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I agree that as per the RAW it cant, I will allow it to though, as it seems to be the intention of the d3+3
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