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Divination needs a nerf. Here is a simple and easy and moderate fix. Swap out prescience as the primaris for scryer's gaze. Even with the nerf Divination would remain highly competitive.

 Happyjew wrote:
As an Ulthwe player, I need my Guide/Presience combo.

It's also the most fluffy of Divination spells.


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 Happyjew wrote:
As an Ulthwe player, I need my Guide/Presience combo.

Every imperial army has access to a pair of 55 point inquisitors with Prescience. Nerfing divination to have scryers gaze as the primaris hurts almost every one else more than Eldar.

My primary army is IG and access to cheap 55 point prescience inquisitors is going to be a bit much, especially when they can join forge world artillery units like thudd guns and earth shakers. Even without forge world IG has access to 3 prescience psychers for 3 heavy support choices. I don't think codex inquisition is the root of the problem, it's that the divination powers are overpowered especially prescience, ignore cover, and 4+ invo with one of the 3 offenders as the primaris. I don't see a need to go savage and midieval with the nerf bat when all that is needed is a change in the primaris.


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Exibit A: The thread under tactics that 2 inquisition psykers with prescience is an auto include for all imperial forces.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/563462.page

 Exergy wrote:

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:

 rohansoldier wrote:
Even though I play Eldar, I voted yes.

Although I would love my Chaos Sorceror to be able to get Divination.

This, all of it.

or at least sorcerers that have MoT

Couldn't agree more. They really should have had 1 author do both CSM and Deamons.


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 da001 wrote:
Same here.

I wonder... the people saying otherwise... which is the reason?

2.1: No don´t nerf Divination because it does not need to be nerfed. It is fair.
2.2: No don´t nerf Divination. I know it is unfair, but I like these kind of unfair advantages when I play.
2.3: No don´t nerf Divination. I know it is broken/unbalanced, but I don´t think that´s unfair because unbalanced lists are part of the game. You search for combos to exploit the rules, everyone does.
2.4: Other.

I avoided the sub options because some are inflammatory and boxes people into a corner. The best reason I can think of for not nerfing divination is it would make Eldar even more powerful. I also think more people will join the Nerf camp once a pair of inquisitors joins every imperial army.

Biomancy isn't over powered it's pretty much just iron arm on MC that is the problem. It should cap out at s/t 7

Hearing a lot that switching the primaris isn't enough and some powers should be 2 Warp charge. I agree prescience and ignore cover should be 2 each, it's just a harder sell than a lighter nerf.

The 1 extra step I would take with divination is psykers that survive the game after taking a perils from divination give their oponent 1 VP per survived perils caused by divination. It's an unlikely event and a rare but harsh penalty that really fits fluff wise when it comes to divination being the most dangerous power when control is lost to warp entities.

 NeedleOfInquiry wrote:
Just so I understand this....

Nobody using it had a problem with it until every one else got access to it via the Inquisitional codex...

There's a word floating around in my head about that.... what could that word be.....no it wasn't heretic but it was something close beginning with an"H"

Been avoiding that word because it's inflammatory. The problem was easier to ignore before Codex space marine and Codex inquisition. No it's more obvious, and players that once had an edge because they have divination have lost that edge because their opponents have it.

Divination also throws off the Dakka versus melee balance of the game. That's the biggest problem I see with prescience as the primaris.

The problem like a staphylococcus infection was there for a long time, but ignored until codex inquisition brought it to a head. All codex inquisition did was destroy the divide between the haves and have nots when it comes to divination. Now that every army with psychers (except orks) has access to divination there should be less of a debate if it's OP. Before codex inquisition I would expect more flak from the armies that already have it when the topic of nerf divination comes up.